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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:11 AM Original message |
Kerry's regrets about Edwards |
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eyesroll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yeah. Gephardt would have been so much better. |
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pstans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. Kerry and Gephardt...BORING! |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
82. Wes Clark would've been a great choice. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Looking back, he really would have |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
152. Actually, he would have been much better. |
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PDittie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
2. Listen here: Bob Schrum is a fuckwad. |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. he is. But he has direct knowledge of things that happened. Some ring true. |
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doggyboy (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. "Some ring true" means "Some support my biases" |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. My "biases" are based on his votes, speeches. The "southern/DLC" thinghie |
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doggyboy (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. I see. I was confused |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. That one with the son also reminded me of a story he used as a lawyer about talking |
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doggyboy (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. True that |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. here's why I believe the Wade story: |
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doggyboy (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Yes, it's a reasonable conclusion, given the facts |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Edwards has told the story many times and I've seen it repeated before |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
92. "lawyerspeak!" Wow! I guess so it's this: |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #92 |
114. I'm sure he can mention Wade's death in private settings |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #114 |
137. He doesn't mention it on the stump but he does in ever interview. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #137 |
154. "That bugs me" |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #154 |
164. Darn politicians are using their personal tragedies as metaphors |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #164 |
172. somteimes that may be true |
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lyonn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #40 |
169. Interesting quotes from Shrum's book in this article. |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
48. Bush had the popular suppor of the war by the citizens |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #48 |
93. But now, it's only lawyerspeaky opportunistic to join the new majority and be "anti-war" |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #93 |
113. There's nothing wrong with being a progressive |
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doggyboy (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. I can't believe some of the things I see on DU |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
81. Thank you n/t |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
86. I have a question regarding these Shrum/Edwards threads... |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 05:27 AM Response to Reply #86 |
179. then he has the nerve to attack Obama for not coming out against the supplemental fast enough |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
3. Is Kerry attempting to sabotage Edwards? |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Well, this is a Shrum book/article - but the knowledge is direct. |
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doggyboy (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Knowledge or lie? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Another Kerry.. FLIP-FLOP! |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Again, this is a Shrum article - no proof it was prompted by Kerry |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
31. Well, I will be watching for a rebuttal from Kerry.. |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
94. I am hardly a Kerry fan, but in all fairness, he behaved with class considering |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
50. Edwards was positioning himself for 2008 and why would Kerry |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. From the op the comment was after the election |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #61 |
78. Why does Edwards and Kerry have to be best friends? |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #78 |
95. They don't. Character however shows in these actions- and while I don't care |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #95 |
111. It doesn't surprise me that a politician would be an opportunist |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #95 |
168. And JFK & LBJ Simply LOVED Each Other!! |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
136. I agree - also Kerry never complained about that |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
53. UNGRATEFUL???? n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. uh oh. Is this the beginning post of a new DU myth?? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. I believe this like I believe the last 4 "terra" plots |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Shrum is likely exaggerating incidents to help his REAL political partners - |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #10 |
22. Occam's razor. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #22 |
38. Shrum DID participate on winning teams - Gore and Kerry both won, while DNC's |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
62. Kerry lost. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. RNC stole it for Bush. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Kerry lost. |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
90. Nope - he won - then threw his hands up. Edwards too - and we're supposed |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Kerry ran a lousy campaign and he lost. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. Bush had people backing him up. The 04 nominee got no party or media support |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #91 |
104. Bush's was lousier, but they stole it. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. The party didn't back them up. |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #91 |
108. Define lost. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #91 |
115. I despise that sentiment |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
103. Shrum failed them, all the same. He failed to highlight their strengths. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #10 |
34. ding ding ding |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
151. Shrum Was On Washington Journal This AM & Didn't Take A Swipe |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #151 |
163. Well, maybe he's waiting for Edwards to come out and stop a few internet myths |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
9. Kerry's campaign in 2004 revealed an impotent and lackluster Kerry |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. And he does not talk. Some people needs to learn how to read. This is Shrum talking. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
66. I agree - on Kerry not having publicly ever criticised Edwards |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
65. Half the things you say are wrong |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #65 |
161. First, I never believed that Saddam was a threat to America... |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
14. So Shrum is lying because we don't like what he is saying? |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Who likes listening to someone who favours maybe works for the other side? Do you? |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. If the guy is just talking about what he saw during the 04 campaign |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
67. No. It always depends on the speaker with me. |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Yup. It's the DU logic - especially when it comes to Edwards - due to the large |
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doggyboy (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. It's not that I think Shrum is lying |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. So, even if it's true, you prefer not to believe it. |
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doggyboy (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Nice try, but no |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
37. I'd say there are less operatives for any given candidate.... |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
45. Now there's some stellar logic right there. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #14 |
35. Shrum may be lying because he has a history of lying... |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. True, but then # 36 would prove the same...It's why I don't trust Edwards |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
68. I would say that some things he says are open to debate |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
16. Can we please stop rehashing this, ad nauseum? |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. It's a Time article, relevant to one of the candidates RUNNING NOW |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. The "Wade" story is particularly interesting. |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
51. While its shady to talk about your dead son |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. But it seems, according to Shrum, that Edwards |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #63 |
77. If Kerry/Schrum thought it was BS thats possible - its like trying to gain sympathy |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. But this was hashed and rehashed over a week ago here. |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. I realize that, and maybe I'm just being cranky, but I'm tired of re-hashing 2004 |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. 2004 depresses me too - mostly because of the silence over the theft |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
52. So he's a good lawyer that knows how to manipulate the emotions of jurors |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Edwards was far from convincing during his debate with Cheney.... |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. yeah, but doesn't mean he shouldn't try |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-05-07 04:57 AM Response to Reply #57 |
178. Cheney is excellent in debates |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. He's lucky no one like me was on the jury |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Yeah, but If I were a victim, I would want Edwards as my attorney |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #76 |
125. I would only want to sue someone if I were genuinely victimized |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
58. Edwards was not the DLC candidate! Ever heard of Lieberman? n/t |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
87. Yes, he was, but, just like this year's race, there are several |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
39. Edwards postively out-shone a lackluster Kerry at every turn in 2004. |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Really? because the 2004 results in his state. county didn't show that at all |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. LOL--yeah. Shrum's highly questionable (read: probably lying) POV |
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fedupinBushcountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Lackluster? |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I saw them in person too and Edwards electrified the crowd |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Why did Kerry drop the Real Deal theme during the general election |
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fedupinBushcountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Oh really ? |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. Wow, that's the first time I've seen it since NH 2004 |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
55. If Kerry had regrets - why pick Edwards at all? |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. during the week or two before the convention, the media was ALL EDWARDS |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. Edwards can repeat the Wade story as much as he wants, its his dead son |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #74 |
101. True - but he made the point that he doesn't want to use him in campaigns. To NYT. |
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jcrew2001 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #101 |
112. He only chooses to mention his son at important moments |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
105. There was some money blackmail from contributors according to the Observer |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
72. Kerry out shone Edwards |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. I remember reading |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. I'm old enough to remember when this sort of thing was the way |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. I won't disagree with you |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
131. you and i agree, seasonedblue |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #79 |
109. Bush also thinks he has a personal plan that helps people - he's helping Iraqis |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #72 |
102. "media favorite" - he was really pushed my the propaganda manipulators. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
80. Kerry isn't running, so why rehash this? |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #80 |
99. Because Edwards is - and the story is about him, as far as I am concerned |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #99 |
107. It seems more about |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
85. Why does ANYONE trust SHRUM? |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Why does anyone trust Edwards? |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #85 |
156. Why does ANYONE trust EDWARDS? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
88. Shrum on the first debate |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #88 |
100. Not as outrageous as you'd like to make it. he is a consultant - therefore |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
96. The story about his son's grave...sounds manipulative. |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. That's what I refrained to voice throughout most of this second campaign. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #97 |
116. ya know, |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #96 |
129. Absolutely chilling. I'd never heard that one before. I guess if Edwards won the White House, |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 07:47 AM Response to Reply #96 |
149. I don't believe one word of Shrum's about that alleged incident. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #96 |
158. of course that's what he does |
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StudentProgressive (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
110. I regret Kerry (no one was excited for him) |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #110 |
117. sorry, your comment is dead wrong |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Thanks for the real world perspective |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #118 |
127. you're more than welcome |
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globalvillage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #110 |
119. No one |
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StudentProgressive (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. That was the Anybody But Bush rally not Yay Kerry Rally |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. i supported Kerry |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Exactly n/t |
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globalvillage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. Baloney. n/t |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #120 |
130. I love how you respond to their pic of the large crowd |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #130 |
135. As a blue stater, I missed the 2004 rallies |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 02:07 AM Response to Reply #135 |
143. you rock! |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 02:15 AM Response to Reply #143 |
145. I'm glad you said that, |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #145 |
162. thank you |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #120 |
134. Were you there? |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 02:08 AM Response to Reply #134 |
144. DON'T EXPECT AN INTELLIGENT ANSWER.... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #110 |
128. In January, Dean polled 20 points behind Bush |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 06:58 AM Response to Reply #110 |
147. I was - Many people were. Get real!\nt |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
121. You've Done This One Before! Okay WE Get The Message! |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #121 |
133. VERY accurate statement... makes ya wonder, huh? n/t |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #121 |
138. To remind people who the real John Edwards is. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 09:03 AM Response to Reply #138 |
150. What I Do See Is That THEY ALL Are MANIPULATIVE! It' Politics & I've Been Around |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
126. I wished Kerry would have "gone with his gut" a lot more |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
132. Read Elizabeth Edwards reply to these idiotic comments |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #132 |
139. Oh Good Lord |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 07:03 AM Response to Reply #139 |
148. This is less than coherent |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #148 |
153. If she brought up snaking |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #153 |
159. I honestly think she would have done better to |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #159 |
160. Well... Blitzer asked her |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #160 |
167. I don't think that is changing the subject |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
140. Kerry's biggest mistake was picking Edwards |
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Roxy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-03-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. Kerry walked away from 2004..EDWARDS wanted to FIGHT! |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 12:18 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. That's easy to say..... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 06:56 AM Response to Reply #142 |
146. True - Edwards said nothing publicly in 2005, even about the |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #141 |
175. Edwards was/is on an ego trip. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
155. I regret it too because if he had chosen Clark...he would have won in |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
157. Wow. So Kerry thinks Edwards caused him to lose? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #157 |
166. it apparently eases the pain |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
165. Shrum is a shmuck |
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Mark 2000 (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
170. Kerry was edawrads' mistake. |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #170 |
171. That's sounds like something from Faux news n/t |
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NastyRiffraff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
173. I don't believe anything Shrum says... |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #173 |
174. Indeed. Kerry will have to come out and say this himself |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-04-07 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
176. I think it's interesting to take a peek inside. |
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177. Here's a funny post I found on Free Republic |
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