Attention Clarkies: If Clark Doesn't Run, How Many Of You Will Back Al Gore?

[Dinger]

I am one who will, that's for sure! It seems from various Clark websites that I have read, that there are many, many Clarkies who would throw their support behind Al Gore. Maybe I am wrong, however.

[Adelante]

1. I would if he ran nt

[mcscajun]

2. Without a doubt, if Gore ran, I'd back him.

No problem.

[BootinUp]

3. me three

[Donna Zen]

4. Since you put it that way...

I really would like to have a Democrat to vote for. I'm not a single issue voter but I must at least sense that the candidate will represent the people of our country before their own selfish goals. I think Gore's bath of fire after the party threw him under the bus, helps to insure that he would care about us. Wes Clark has always put America before himself....literally.

Now how about putting it this way? How many Gore supporters would back Clark if he, not Gore, enters the race? Hmmm?

[Dinger]

5. Hey Donna,

Could you post a poll on this? I'm afraid that people get sick of me doing polls:evilgrin:

[jenmarie]

9. Oh, good one Donna Zen!!

I'm a Clarkie, and would most definitely and proudly support Gore if Clark doesn't run and Gore does.

[Dinger]

10. All This Makes Me Wonder Why Clark & Gore, & Clarkies & Gore People Seem

to be on the same plane, so to speak. Ideas???

[jenmarie]

11. Because we see through

the current candidates. Now I do like and trust Kucinich, but what chance does he have, really?

[Dinger]

12. Sad, Isn't It?

:-(

[jenmarie]

13. Yup.

:shrug:

[Cameron27]

6. Yep,

if he's in and Clark's not, I'll back Gore.

[Pyrzqxgl]

7. FOLKS! Neither of them are running. How about EDWARDS?

[Dinger]

8. Maybe, But I Just Can't Seem To Get That shelton Thing Out Of My Mind

Maybe I'll get over it, maybe I won't.

[FrenchieCat]

15. Many Clarkies like Presidents with good judgments who were courageous

when the majority opinion was against them.

As a Clarkie, I would go from Clark to Gore to Obama with less issues than supporting Edwards, who was wrong for a long time....and became antiwar when most of the country had already done that as well. In otherwords, Edwards plays safe....even on issues of war and peace.

[Clark2008]

35. Ewwww... I don't vote for flip-floppers.

They guy has tried to change his entire senatoral record with an, "Oops. I'm sorry," which I find utterly disgusting.

Sorry. No deal.

[Pithy Cherub]

37. Not in this lifetime or the next.

Edwards has no actions to back up his recent conversions. Edwards had a chance to do right by the people while in the senate and now he apologizes for the havoc wreaked from his last election. Good judgment matters and courage matters in the moment.

[MrSlayer]

14. I will. I've said it many times.

Clark or Gore or better yet Gore/Clark.

[sampsonblk]

16. After seeing the 'debate' tonight, count me in

nt

[Renew Deal]

17. And what if Gore doesn't run?

:shrug:

[Dinger]

18. Hi There Bleachers7!

Somehow, I knew you'd chime in, How are ya!:hi:

[Renew Deal]

19. Good

How are you? I just happened to be here. I am not convinced that Gore is running. I still believe it's more likely that he's not running. What's Clark's deal. He seemed to be a sure thing earlier in the year. Now he seems to be out. The only candidate that could jump in on the Dem side now is Gore.

I haven't picked a candidate yet, but I'd be hard pressed to not pick Gore.

[Dinger]

20. Gore/Clark= Problems Over

Oh boy, am I gonna get it!:hide:

[Greyskye]

63. That's my dream ticket

Even with Wes's icon over there on the side! :toast:

[smalll]

21. Attention Great Pumpkin Believers: If He Doesn't Show, How Many Of You Will Look Up For Flying Pigs?

/nt

[Dinger]

23. Hey smalll: Why Would You Smear Clarkies?

You'll attract more flies with honey than with vinegar, right? Pumpkin believers my ass.
:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

[smalll]

25. I'm sorry, I really wasn't this time trying a dig a Clarkies -more at the premise of the OP itself-

which was, "Hey, supporters of a candidate who isn't running; if he continues to not run, will you be willing to support another candidate who isn't running?"

[Dinger]

26. Well, At Least That Would Have Been Less Nasty & Mean-Spirited Than Calling Us "Great Pumpkin Believ

"Great Pumpkin Believers." Doncha think? As far as I'm concerned, it's sort of my way of saying I am not all that excited about the current field. But whoever gets the nom, has my vote, period.
:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

[ArkySue]

22. I certainly would!

The current crop of candidates leaves me cold!

:boring:

[Dinger]

24. How Ya Doin' Arky?

Good to see ya:hi: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

[Crunchy Frog]

27. Yes, absolutely.

My guess is that Clark would too.

I voted for Nader in 2000, but Gore seems to have found himself since then. :)

[Tejanocrat]

28. When Clark and Gore don't run, how many of you will back Gary Hart?

[Dinger]

30. Hey Tejanocrat, Why Would You Be This Rude?

I repeat, you can attract more flies with honey than with vinegar. Get it?

[Tejanocrat]

31. Why Are You So Rude To The Current Field of Great Candidates?

The answer: you are expressing you thoughts just as I am expressing mine.

[Dinger]

32. O.K., Who Are You Backing? Or Are You "Undecided"? AND How EXACTLY Am I "Rude"

to the other Democratic candidates? I'll wait for your answer.

[Tejanocrat]

34. I was hoping Clark would run. I'm now supporting Kucinich. If Gore runs, I'll support him.

But we have a good field and you should look for a candidate who's running. If Gore gets in (highly unlikely), fine, switch to Gore, but when I hear Democrats bitching about the current field, the tone sounds JUST like the freepers whining about "Rudy McRomney."

[Dinger]

36. It's Early. I Think I Have Time Yet

And I wasn't "bitching" about any of the current candidates. They're all pretty good, but they're not Clark, or Gore.
If that qualifies as "bitching," then so be it.

[Clark2008]

49. I don't think it's a "great" field, myself.

That's why I'm having such trouble finding a candidate who's running.

I really am stumped. It's devastating, to be sure.

[jenmito]

29. IF he runs, yes...

but if he doesn't, and Clark doesn't, I like Obama. I also like Biden. I can't stand Edwards (sorry to all his supporters) but I'd still vote for him if he was the nominee. Same with Hillary.

[Clark2008]

33. I voted "yes," but I have to wonder what kind of a pickle I'll be in

if neither decides to run.

The current field is so... so... ugh.

I don't think a single one of them can win in a general election. Sadly. :cry:

[Bucky]

38. I'll tell you who in the current field could win

Biden or Dodd could close the deal. I hate to say that, cause neither is my cup of tea. But really they showed themselves to be candidates of substance. Not that either would ever get nominated, but both are able to show the kind of gravitas needed to pull in swing voters.

[Clark2008]

43. Oh - not where I live.

Both candidates are "Yankees." I can't imagine either one of them garnering the white male vote in th South and mid-West - in flippable states.

But, you're correct - neither will be nominated, so it doesn't matter.

[jenmarie]

39. I felt the same

until tonight. If Clark and Gore don't run, I will be supporting Kucinich. I know he hasn't a chance, but I trust him. He's honest, he's always been a liberal, he's not owned by corporate masters, and I agree with his stand on the issues.

As far as the GE, I think you're right -- and so does my old, lifelong Dem dad -- none of them can win.

[imlost]

40. Gore is my second choice.

I'm not really happy with my current choices, but I guess if I had to pick one it would be Obama. I love Kucinich too.

I won't be happy with Hillary or Edwards. I'll take them over any repug, but I hope I don't find myself in this predicament.

[windbreeze]

41. I just don't know....n/t

[benny05]

42. Another poll needed

and if Gore does not run, who is your next candidate?

[Clark2008]

44. We don't like the current field.

Well, most of us don't. That's the problem. That's why we're wistful for Clark or Gore.

[benny05]

60. Gore is not running

What's the story on Clark?

[Crunchy Frog]

61. Of the ones already declared, I'm going with Obama. n/t

[incapsulated]

45. No.

:)

[BootinUp]

47. I get it.

No dog in the fight then. For me its not easy to maintain that outlook and pay attention at the same time.

[incapsulated]

59. I'm not a Gore fan, Jim

Not as a presidential candidate. But I don't believe he is going to run, anyway.

At this point, I'm ok letting whatever happens, happen, and I think I'm pretty sure I know who the candidate is going to be regardless. Besides, my vote in NY would be meaningless anyway.

[seabeyond]

46. but .... gore isnt running either. what an odd question.

if two candidates arent running, which do you back?

hm

[Clark2008]

48. Again, that is the dilemma we Clark/Gore fans face.

We don't like the current field.

I cannot honestly say that I would "back" any of them. I'll probably be sitting here the night of Feb. 4 in tears not knowing who to vote for the next day.

I don't see "leadership" in any of them and I don't think any of them can beat the Republican nominess - particularly if that nominee is Thompson - because I don't see them appealing to swing voters, particularly white males, in the Heartland.

It's depressing, I tell you! :cry:

[seabeyond]

52. i wanted kerry. i understand. if not kerry, i wanted clark, oh well

not a gore fan. almost a no no to say on this forum, but ok.

regardless, i am voting dems, and can find good in all of them and if a dem wins there will be no tears.

[Adelante]

53. I will certainly vote Dem

There is no question about that. But it doesn't mean I can't want the field expanded by one or two. :hi:

[seabeyond]

54. nope, i doesnt mean. lol. i can hope for clark too

i like the man. just dont think it will happen

[BootinUp]

50. isn't running or may yet run? n/t

[seabeyond]

51. my guess, isnt running. but yawl can have hope. n/t

[Tom Rinaldo]

55. And will Gore backers support Clark if the tables are turned?

I have great respect for Al Gore. I think his leadership abilities have deepened in the long aftermath of his heatbreaking failed quest to win the White House in 2000. I don't think Al Gore, even today, makes the ideal political candidate, but he would be an excellent President, and I overall think he would make a better political candidate to run in and win the 2008 election than any of the currently announced Democratic candidates.

I am under no illusion that Al Gore is as much beloved in the General Public as he is among core Democratic Activists circles. There are many who do admire Al Gore, but there are many others who will never warm up to him. Even so, Gore would command respect from a broad swath of the American public for his intellect, for his experience, and for his vision. Gore is a three dimensional adult, well seasoned under fire, who most Americans can trust to lead our nation.

And so is Wes Clark. I have no motivation to get into arguements about the merrits of a Wes Clark presidential run over an Al Gore presidential run. I'll save that for if they BOTH run. In short I think Clark would be our best candidate, and would make the best President, but as matters now stand I would see it as a vast improvement to have Al Gore available to support over the rest of the current field.

Hillary Clinton receives a lot of her current support BECAUSE there is no other front tier candidate with extensive exposure to the working deatails of international relations and national suecurity. I credit her 8 years spent as a hands on first lady as real experience. She was there, she lived through all of it with a front row seat. Hillary also inherits an experienced pool of advisors AND IT SHOWS. She also has 2 & 1/2 more years in the U.S. Senate under her belt than John Edwards and 6 more years under her belt than Barack Obama.

If either Wes Clark or Al Gore enters the race, the relative weaknesses of Obama and Edwards will soon be highlighted. Even an intrinsically not all of that much likable retread like Joe Biden looks deep in comparison to Edwards and Obama. And Hillary should NOT be our candidate. No one can rev up the Republican attack machine like Hillary Clinton. She carries the highest unfavorables with the public of any leading Democrat. I don't support Clinton because of the issues, but even if I did back her on them I would be worried about her chances in the General Election.

If we don't get Wes Clark then I think we need Al Gore. Both of these men would add incredible substance to the national debate on the issues that really matter.

[BootinUp]

56. thoughts on the Clinton negatives

This is also a concern of mine. I think what we will see is a tremendous influx of cash to defeat her (beyond what other Dems would likely face), and whatever the negatives look like now, what counts is once we get into the campaign.

[bdamomma]

57. not to get away from the topic line, but is Hagel still thinking about running.

[cloudbase]

58. Put me down as "probably."

n/t

[Greyskye]

62. hell yes

The icon to the left not withstanding, my first choice is Gore.

Not only that, but my dream ticket is Gore/Clark, not Clark/Gore. Give the General 8 years as VP, and then let him go for POTUS!

[Dinger]

64. My Sentiments EXACTLY!

Luv ya Greyskye!
:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: