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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:03 AM
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Dumbest statement of the night?
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 12:03 AM by Bucky
I like Bill Richardson. I think he can do the job but frankly htonight was not a great performance by him. His idea of sanctions against China for not helping out in Darfur being to boycott the next Olympics there struck me as odd. The verdict on Carter's 1980 boycott of the Moscow Olympiad was "lame empty gesture."

I don't think Blitzer treated him fairly, by the way. But if that's the best leverage we can muster against China, this country is a lot more screwed than I thought.
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StudentProgressive Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:03 AM
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1. I like the idea of boycotting the Beijing Olympics
It's one step of many.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:07 AM
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3. Maybe, but it's the one suggestion he focused on. He even repeated it.
I don't know if you remember 1980, but the Olympic boycott that year accomplished nothing but giving a few extra metals to the Russians and East Germans. I doubt skipping the Chinese Olympicks would sway world opinion enough to sway the Chinese government.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:20 AM
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5. I remember the 1980 boycott cheating hundreds of American athletes
out of the chance of a lifetime. And accomplishing nothing beyond that.
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StudentProgressive Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:41 AM
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10. McKinney is a wonderful woman
I've held an event with her personally; she's a very sweet woman who never stopped speaking truth to power.
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 06:13 AM
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17. Who cares?
Poor widdle American athletes. Ahhhh.
Let's boycott all the olympics!
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StudentProgressive Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:40 AM
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9. Well I think Wolf Blitzer and Dodd made it into an issue
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:54 AM
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22. ummmm - Chinese food!!!
what was the question again?...
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:04 AM
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2. The "Universal Education" thing struck me as odd
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:56 AM
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23. How did he ddefine Universal education, because I am interested
in cradle to grave covered education (and health care) in this country
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:10 AM
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4. Clinton blaming the Iraqis for blowing their chance at democracy and freedom
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:25 AM
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6. Please tell me she didn't say that.
Final. I will not vote for Hillary Clinton. :grr:
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:26 AM
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7. Yes she did. Same thing Bill O'Reilly says.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:46 AM
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14. Good point. She also agrees with O'Reilly that we are safer now than we were before 9/11 nt
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:04 AM
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25. Surprised? Why? They are both (Clinton &O'Liely) financed by the corporate owners of America
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:27 AM
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8. Obama tripped up badly on the VA. HRC suggesting Bush made us safer. Richardson's comment 3rd.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:42 AM
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11. Hillary Clinton is the best candidate.......
....in the whole republican line-up.
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StudentProgressive Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:43 AM
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12. The Dem wing of the GOP?
?
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doggyboy Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:04 AM
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16. Hilarious!!! Got any more chink jokes?
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 01:05 AM by doggyboy
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:44 PM
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30. Actually, in its entirety, the whole thing was funny.
I just read it and that's pretty much what is being said minus the flowery bullshit.

I don't think the poster is bigoted - I think he/she was trying to point out how pointless these debates are.
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doggyboy Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:44 AM
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13. On DU or the debates?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:02 AM
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15. I agree, Richardson is dead on about China but neede dto propose some stronger leverage
Boycotting the Olympics alone isn't going to do anything. He should have proposed some better leverage over China.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 07:34 AM
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18. "We are safer than we were but still not safe" - Hillary Clinton
quoting BushCo fearmongering talking points!

Doug D.
Orlando, FL
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 07:51 AM
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19. No - the dumbest statement of the night was Edwards
"travel around the world" crap for his first 100-hours mission.

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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 07:54 AM
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21. No.
Clinton took the cake on dumbest statement hands down.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:16 PM
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28. The one where we were safer?
That one was pretty dumb, too. I'll agree.

Toss up?
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:31 PM
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29. I'll agree.
Edited on Mon Jun-04-07 12:31 PM by JTFrog
Toss up.

Although I think Obama was pushing to make it a three way tie with his statement regarding VA hospitals vs. veteran's choice.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 07:53 AM
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20. Right, let's not jeopardize
our possibility of getting medals. Let the poor people die! :sarcasm:

I think Richardson was spot on.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:59 AM
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24. I dont think it has anything to do with medals
It has to do with the fact that if thats the best leverage we can put on china then we have major problems.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:14 PM
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27. Of course we have major problems.
That has been obvious for quite a while now. China owns us.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 11:15 AM
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26. Well, China did promise
that there would be clean drinking water. The athletes are worried about the smog.
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