CNN Has a Live Interview with Edwards Obama Clinton Now

[Ethelk2044]

[More Than A Feeling]

John Edwards is still willing to use the phrase "separation of church and state"

Take that, Mara Vanderslice!

[geek tragedy]

1. Edwards: Some of my friends are pro-gay marriage.

Ugh. He looks red-orange.

[Ethelk2044]

3. I thought it was my TV.

[geek tragedy]

4. Apparently it's everyone's TV.

It's a media conspiracy to paint him as a Communist devil.

[LSparkle]

6. LOL! "He's a red ... this one even PEES red ... "

(From movie "Reds").

I think everyone in the audience looks pretty red/orange -- maybe it's their satellite transmission or something.

Oh Gawd, I can only wonder what Hill is going to look like. (She looked pretty orange even last night!)

[LSparkle]

5. Me too! I was just going to adjust it

Maybe it's the lights ... ???

[mckeown1128]

42. no they all are sunburned

they have all been on the campaign trail for a long time. outdoors for a lot of the time.

[ElizabethDC]

8. Last night he looked a little overly-tanned

maybe he's been spending a little too much time in a tanning booth? Though, frankly, I'm not sure how he would have time for that, so perhaps not - but he definitely looks very red-orange tonight.

[MonkeyFunk]

2. Watching now....

Edwards on first. Bad makeup - really really bad. He looks like a lobster. And he doesn't believe homosexuals have a right to be married. Ugh.

[Cameron27]

7. Just turned it on,

I hope this doesn't turn out to be a "I'm the pious one, no I am" battle.

[MonkeyFunk]

9. I don't think it will

and the questions don't seem to be trying to push it that way.

[Cameron27]

10. Good.

[Connie_Corleone]

11. It's definitely the lighting. Obama looks orange too.

[Cameron27]

12. He does lol

[LSparkle]

13. Hillary's probably going to look like Diane Ladd in "Wild At Heart"

Sorry but with this lighting ...

[MonkeyFunk]

20. ugh...

bad day to wear a pink scarf.

[ElizabethDC]

21. And pink lipstick . .

I'm guessing it's not actually hot pink, but it appears that way on TV!

[LSparkle]

23. She looks like she spent too long in a tanning bed

Her neck especially looks sunburned.

[MonkeyFunk]

26. LOL

I was just noticing that. it looks like something a 16 year old would wear.

God, the lighting designer there needs to be fired. They all looked awful.

[Ethelk2044]

14. I like what Obama is saying so far.

[Cameron27]

15. Shareholders can vote

for executive pay scales...excellent. I missed the second one duh.

[Ethelk2044]

16. Executives needs to beaware of their pay compared to the

employees. Other words, if you are making millions you should increase your employees pay as well.

[Cameron27]

19. Ah, good. Thank you.

[flpoljunkie]

17. Soledad just said Biden, Richardson and Dodd would be interviewed, as well.

[LSparkle]

CNN must be smarting from the Wolf/Dodd mess

What are they going to do, extend the SitRoom to 3 hours?

[flpoljunkie]

39. Soledad just said Dennis Kucinich will also be interviewed.

[Gloria]

18. I see Mitt is running ads, "can't wait to get my hands on Washington" so

he can veto spending....(for the needy, I would guess!!!) What a piece of crap!!

[Ethelk2044]

22. Soledad asked her on not apologizing for her vote

She still did not answer it correctly.

[Cameron27]

24. Tell her it's none of her damned business.

"infidelity in your marriage"

[Ethelk2044]

25. Wrong it is everyone's business

She is running for President.

[ElizabethDC]

27. How does her husband's infidelity matter to her candidacy? n/t

[Ethelk2044]

29. Because religious people does not like

infidelity.

[ElizabethDC]

31. I'm religious, and I feel it's not my place to judge her on this

especially since it's her husband who cheated, not her.

A lot of religious people are against divorce, too - and in that case, shouldn't they applaud her for staying in her marriage.

[Ethelk2044]

32. That is up to the people and what they feel they should do.

[ElizabethDC]

37. What, specifically, are you referring to? n/t

[mckeown1128]

44. I don't think bill's infidelity has anything to do with clinton...

However how Hillary came to terms with it is important. (It was probably one of the most difficult times of her life)

Is it just me or did Hillary get all of the really difficult questions???


I really like how Obama performed. Gobama!!!

[ElizabethDC]

48. I think they all got tough questions

but I was surprised that her husband's infidelity was brought up - I'm sure she's used to it by now, but it makes me uncomfortable to see her asked about it.

[LSparkle]

28. Ugh -- she did NOT just use the phrase "prayer warriors" ...

Way way too fundie for me ...

[Ethelk2044]

30. She does not seem that religious

[Cameron27]

33. I think just the opposite,

she sounds like someone who doesn't parade her religion around in public, but who still has a deep faith.

[Ethelk2044]

35. that is your view.

[ElizabethDC]

36. That's the impression I got

She's always had problems talking publicly about things that are very personal to her, and I think her faith is one of those things.

[LSparkle]

34. That expression is one I've heard a lot among televangelists ...

And now she appears all too willing to reach some accommodation with those who oppose abortion (at least to reduce the number of people choosing abortion). My fear is, you give these people an inch and they take a mile.

[Ethelk2044]

38. What was that look he gave?

[ChiciB1]

40. They ALL Were Very Good... Of The Three, John Edwards Seemed

more relaxed. Obama & Hillary a bit more stilted! But they all spoke very well, and I think "our" candidates most certainly "out-shine" the other side.

This type of "debate" of what you want to call it, is sooooooooo much better than what we have seen so far!

Time for Keith now... Sorry to the other candidates!

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[ElizabethDC]

47. I think you're trying to push your candidate, too. n/t

[LetsThink]

62. I think Edwards was the least genuine.........

He strikes me as one of the types that has a literal view of the bible and will judge people (unconsciously) by the same standard I've just had almost 7 years too many from shrub and group.

[Kingstree]

41. Hillary - I DO NOT BELIEVE HER!!!

Watching CNN's Faith & Politics showed me something: Edwards, I believe, Obama I believe, Clinton, No! Tonight she showed me that she has little or no religious faith or values. She only uses this platform to further her agenda to make you believe she has religion. She will do whatever it takes to win this nomination. She says she take religion personally and she does not wear it on her sleeve. I certainly don't believe it because she kept jumping all over the place saying I pray for trivial things, others pray for me, supporting me through her trials. You don't get religion or faith from others, you have to believe it, live it everyday and practice faith daily. Yes, many people go to church, go to Sunday school and have faith leaders, but that does not make you have faith. You don't use the faith of others to justify your beliefs. To me she is a phony, pushing her agenda to garner the support from the religion community. You can tell when someone is faking because she did not have a train of thought that was consistent. She was constantly searching her brain to say something that would make sense. Also, you can feel if someone has faith in God. She does not have that. The audience and the religious leaders in the front row did not buy it. The camera panned and showed a man listening in the audience and I could tell by the look on his face he didn't believe her. When a person of faith walks in a room and begins to speak, you can tell because he/she is living by the word. Religious leaders can tell. She is in this for the win at any costs. She has no moral compass and religion is not a part of her nor her essence. For her, this is pure politics with no basis on feeling. To me, she is worse than Bush and it is shameful of her to use people to further her political career. I just hope that everyone that watched caught that too.

[Cameron27]

43. Feel free to judge someone

on personal matters of faith and believe, I choose not to.

edited to add, that after reading your self-righteous rant, I completely disagree with your conclusions, and think she's being quite honest about her religion and her faith. I thought they all did very well today.

[ElizabethDC]

46. I think Hillary is somewhat uncomfortable talking about her personal faith

she has said so before. Frankly, I think she's uncomfortable talking about her personal life at all, which is one of the reasons she has trouble connecting with people.

Do you really believe that you can feel if someone else has faith in God? I don't think so. At the end of the day, it's between them and God, not them and us. I've always been of the opinion that it's not for me to judge the faith of others.

[spooky3]

49. I think there is a difference between talking about your

personal life on TV or in a speech with people you don't know, versus talking with trusted friends. I would bet she has no problem at all connecting with people she knows and trusts on a one-on-one basis.

Other candidates also keep certain aspects of their lives private, and I respect that choice.

[Kingstree]

50. You can tell who's a believer and who's faking it.

Of course she will say that she is uncomfortable. Anyone who has no faith based beliefs or values is going to be uncomfortable. In reality, this is foreign territory for her. She tries to talk a good game about faith but that's all it is, a game, Edwards and Obama were honest and humble in the way they spoke and their demeanor when they spoke. Religion is not something that you can create just to try and convince others. If you live faith daily, you can tell if someone else does. I don't care if you go to church regularly, if you don't or practice outside the church. Faith is something you live and it is a part of you. Anyone can use the cliche' and say that my faith is between them and their God. I have met a lot of people who say that and they weren't telling the truth and it was justified based on their deeds and actions. People use faith all the time to justify themselves, seek forgiveness and to cleanse themselves of sin. This woman is trying to be slick and use her position to fool you. People feel out people all the time and you can tell if they are fake. What Hillary needs to do is look inside and judge herself. This woman is totally that. There are millions of fake people in this world and she is one of them. In this case, she was not coached as she usually is. She is all about being politically strategic. In this case, she had to be real and genuine and it didn't work. She was not hard to read. Bill Clinton was able to pull this off, she is not that good. I would not submit this if I did not believe this. As I said before, it's a downright same!!

[ElizabethDC]

51. As a person of faith, I felt that she and the other candidates were all being genuine

I was impressed with all their answers.

What, specifically, did she say to lead you to this conclusion? Or are you just trying to smear her?

[Colobo]

60. Smear her.

[Kingstree]

61. Not trying to smear Hillary

I am not smearing her. This is just my belief that she is not being honest. If I felt that she was being honest, I would say so. If I felt the Edwards or Obama were not being truthful, I would say so. I don't smear people who believe but people fake all the time. Remember, this is politics and religion to some are just like all other issues. Hillary stated that where she from, people are suspicious of people who wear their religion on their sleeve. Well I am suspicious of the one that don't. They lie too. Don't get soft-hearted just because the issue is religion and someone says they believe. Evangelists, corrupt pastors and church leaders do it all the time using your faith in God to their advantage. I'm am paying attention and listening first before I make an assessment. In order to make an accurate decision, everyone should do the same.

[ElizabethDC]

65. You still haven't given me any specifics

on what she said that convinced you that she wasn't a person of faith. Do you truly believe that you can judge one's faith from a 15-minute interview?

[Kingstree]

67. Her demeanor and attitude

What convinced me was her reaction(s) to the questions. Anybody who truly believes has a genuine love for God and his word and he/she would be able to react to others and not have a fake demeanor about her. She would be able to relate to people in general. This is not about politics but truth. Her example of her answers about her husband's infidelity shows that she may only seeks God when their is a crisis. She does not deal with him for daily guidance. It's like a person who wants something so bad that you will turn to HIM just for that reason only. If I happens, you're thankful, if not, you're angry. It shouldn't matter, pray and trust God daily anyway. If you are around people and watch them, friends or strangers, you can tell who honest and who's not. You just have to know what to look for: eye movement, uneasiness, broken sentences, looking for words to say etc. She felt extremely uncomfortable and did not want to talk about, not because of her upbringing but because she has no genuine faith. If she did, talking to a religious audience, it would not be a problem.

Here is a prime example of politicians using someone. The pastors were lied to. Bush Senior and BBill
Clinton promised them something and did not fullfil their promise. :
Johnson’s testimony on Capitol Hill comes as President George W. Bush -- who is experiencing his lowest approval ratings ever at 34 percent -- is still being criticized for slow federal response to survivors of Hurricane Katrina, many of whom are black, displaced and unemployed.

On Thursday, a video obtained by Associated Press shows Bush at a high-level meeting being warned about the potential for disaster as a result of Hurricane Katrina days before the storm hit, although the White House maintains that Bush wasn’t aware of the storm’s impending devastation.

In addition, Bishop T.D. Jakes of the Potters House in Dallas, said Thursday he has not received any funding to help rebuild black churches in New Orleans after former presidents Bill Clinton and George H. W. Bush recently promised $20 million to black faith organizations.

"I am annoyed, I am frustrated, I am angry," Jakes told the Washington Post.

TD Jakes and the other pastors later resigned from the board because they felt they were lied to.

http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/mississippi303

[karynnj]

53. I agree

Also there was a major NYT magazine article that was mostly about of Hillary's faith in the 1990s before the Democratic party ever reached out to the religious base.

I still do not want Hillary for President, but there are more reasons to think her religion is real than for most people.

[mckeown1128]

52. No one is worse than shrub

but I share your sentiments

[LetsThink]

59. I watched the Faith & Politics Forum tonight -CLINTON was......

... the most genuine in her faith. For the first time I could really see how her politics were informed by a personal belief in faith- an open faith that empowers people, not a faith that limits, lectures and restricts people.

I think it comes down to a personal view of God-- is God a loving, caring and accepting diety who reaches out to each person individually? If one believes this, then Hillary Clinton is seen as the most genuine of the three (& the others who were interviewed later by video link). To me Hillary is acting on the basis of her faith when she proposes a living wage for those with little in America; when she proposes to end the war in Iraq; when she proposes using increased diplomacy and regional agreements among M.E. countries to stabilize the region politically; when she proposes health care for those with none or those who are underinsured and when she says we need to ensure returning vets get the services they need.

And yes, her faith obviously guided her in private, personal and family decisions too.

I believe she spoke tonight from her heart! Thank you Hillary. I feel a step closer to having my own faith renewed after almost 7 years of being told (by the shrubbie faith-types, thru Fox) what I must believe and how I must act in my life in order to be a person of faith, to be acceptable to God......

[ElizabethDC]

63. Excellent post, well said.

I especially like this - "I think it comes down to a personal view of God-- is God a loving, caring and accepting diety who reaches out to each person individually?" - that's definitely the God that I believe in.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

66. I don't think religious faith should have anything to do with politics.

In fact, I think the influence of religion on politics is thoroughly pernicious. Furthermore, I don't think a religious person is "better" in any respect than someone who isn't religious. And it's not for me to judge whether someone is or is not sincere about being religious. Although Clinton isn't my favorite candidate, I won't decide for or against her on the basis of her actual or purported "faith." Unfortunately, all of the candidates are forced to pander to some extent because so many people in this country hold the idiotic notion that you can't be a good President unless you are religious (and specifically Christian).

[Colobo]

54. Did Obama do well?

[Bullet1987]

55. I think he did the best!! But it was too short...

[Colobo]

56. Hopefully people in NH will support him!

[ElizabethDC]

57. This forum took place in DC

at George Washington Univ, I believe.

[Colobo]

58. Oh, didn't know! Thanks!

[LetsThink]

64. I thought Obama did well but...... he talked too much and said....

too little. Know what I mean?