North Carolina Poll: Tight three way race, Edwards 30, Hillary 26, Obama 22...

[SaveElmer]

Can't see how this is good news for Edwards, Hillary within MoE in Edwards home state...

http://www.worklifeexpress.com/PPP/pdf/surveys/PPP_Release_060507.pdf

[mnhtnbb]

1. Obama is coming to fundraise in Edwards' backyard in Chapel Hill

Tickets are $1000. and $2300. to Obama functions.

http://www.newsobserver.com/659/story/594560.html


But Edwards is having a birthday party in Chapel Hill on June 10th
and the cost is $15/person.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=170x9120

[JNelson6563]

4. Interesting contrast.

I wonder what the attendance will be at both.

Julie

[mnhtnbb]

9. I'm going to the Edwards event so I'll post afterwards

[JNelson6563]

14. Great, I'll watch for it!

I'm sure someone will post results for Obama's event too, at least I hope so!

Such a great thing about DU! We can get great local news from all corners of the country, and even the world with many international friends.

Julie

[Colobo]

2. I like this; horse race!

[SaveElmer]

3. My guess...

Is that Edwards is having the same trouble in North Carolina as he is in South Carolina...he simply isn't as popular among African American voters as Hillary and Obama are...

[Colobo]

5. Why would that be? :)

[BeyondGeography]

6. Because Bill Clinton is wildly popular with blacks and Obama IS black

Sounds simple-minded, but it's true. Edwards' policies aren't the problem; he's just up against two juggernauts here.

The clincher for me was when Elizabeth Edwards compared JRE with Jesse Helms the other day; if that isn't a sign he's hunting for votes in new parts, I don't know what is.

[Colobo]

7. I think John is not trying hard enough to get the black vote

He's banking on poor and lower middle class whites more than anything.

[rinsd]

11. "poor and lower middle class whites"

Groups that have worse traditional turnout rates that African Americans even though they are larger in size as a demographic.

[rinsd]

18. More pics

[rinsd]

8. Edwards is trying to position himself as the GE choice but this was a mistake

I love Elizabeth Edwards but this is the 2nd gaffe in my opinion from her in the last month.

First she calls a candidate who has been derided as a Breck girl the feminist candidate. And now she compares him to Helms.

[mnhtnbb]

10. are you suggesting African American voters are racist and sexist?

[SaveElmer]

12. I don't see a :sarcasm: smiley...

But am gonna assume you are joking nevertheless...

[mnhtnbb]

15. I'm serious. I live in NC and believe me, there's plenty of

reverse discrimination to go around. I'm always stunned to see the preferential
treatment that African American customers get from African American clerks
when I've just been treated--if not rudely--at least with disdain--by the same
clerk.

And I'm a Yankee. No southern drawl. And I'm almost always pleasant
to anyone who has to man a cash register on her/his feet all day.

[SaveElmer]

16. Well...last time I looked...Hillary CLinton is white...

In any case I was not suggesting African American voters were sexist or racist...I am suggesting that Hillary and Obama have done a better job so far appealing to that segment of voters...

For Hillary, part of it is the justifiably positive feelings african american voters have for Bill CLinton, in addition to Hillary's efforts to reach out to them, and her excellent civil rights record.

There is no doubt that being black helps Obama in this segment of the population, and that is understandable, but I think he does a good job speaking to their concerns as well...

Edwards has just never caught on well with them for whatever reason...but I don't think it is because african americans are racist

[BeyondGeography]

17. Edwards couldn't have won SC in 2004 without strong support from blacks

Sharpton only got 10% of the black vote in 2004; Edwards got 37%.

http://www.benedict.edu/news/articles/bc-news-article-2007_T266_R17.html

The competition is just much tougher this year.

[seasat]

13. According to the cross tabs Obama gets 45% of the AA vote in SC

Matt Stoller over at MYDD points these out a lot and there is a lot interesting information in them. Hillary gets 23% and Edwards 14% of the African American vote. Interesting is that Edwards' main support is white males. Hillary seems to appeal to more women of all races. Obama appeals to African Americans of both genders. On age the only real stand out is that Obama supporters are mainly under 60.

[laureloak]

19. It's still a red state. Repubs will push for Hillary.

Because she has the most baggage & they can use it to motivate their base.

[mnhtnbb]

20. Look at the breakdown by area code (OP), and you'll notice that

Edwards' strength is in the Asheville area (828) and Chapel
Hill, Raleigh,
Durham areas.(919)  Hillary is strongest in southern and
eastern part of state
(910 and 252), which is Republican country.   Obama polls
about the same throughout the state, with the exception of
Asheville area where he really tanks.

Area Code                    252 336 704 828 910 919
President

Clinton               26%    32% 21% 28% 24% 34% 18%
Edwards               30%    20% 32% 29% 45% 26% 33%
Obama                 22%    23% 22% 22%  9% 26% 26%
Different candidate   11%     8% 17% 15%  7%  8% 11%
Undecided             11%    17%  8%  5% 14%  6% 13%

[AtomicKitten]

21. It's on!