NH POLL: Hillary up by only five over Obama (26% - 21%), Edwards at 18%

[jefferson_dem]

In the the aftermath of this week's presidential debates in New Hampshire, Clinton and Romney come out on top in a new Mason-Dixon poll of likely primary voters there. Among likely Democratic primary voters, Clinton leads Obama, 26%-21%, with Edwards at 18%, Richardson at 9%, and Biden at 6%; no other Democratic presidential contender gets more than 1%.

Among likely GOP primary voters, Romney leads McCain, 27%-16%, followed by Giuliani at 15%, Fred Thompson at 12%, and Huckabee at 5%.

The Mason-Dixon poll -- which was given exclusively to NBC and MSNBC -- was taken June 4-7, 2007, and the Dem field has a margin of error of +/- 4.9%, and the GOP field has a margin of error of +/- 5.3%.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/08/218615.aspx

[Colobo]

1. OH YEAH!!! OH YEAH!!!

GOBAMA! GOBAMA! GOBAMA! :bounce:

[jefferson_dem]

3. Heck yes, i'll take a five point deficit right now...especially considering NH has an open primary

and Obama kills Hillary in support among independents and has more cross-over appeal. Think McCain in 2000, as he trounced the *establishment* candidate (Bush) in NH.

[Tellurian]

10. Clinton woomps Obama 41% to 26%

June 8, 2007

Fox N_ws Poll (PDF format):

Clinton 41%, Obama 26%, Edwards 15%;

Clinton 36%, Obama 23%, Gore 14%, Edwards 12%

[jefferson_dem]

14. Your desire to "woomp" aside, can you please at least try to stay on topic.

We're here chatting about how Obama's only five behind Hillary in NH... :bounce:

[Colobo]

17. Horse race!

:bounce:

[Tellurian]

28. ...

just funnin with ya..jd..

the link provided by rinsd is the best I've seen, where the polls are averaged out with a averaged spread.

[Capn Sunshine]

41. Fox News poll

Yeah, THAT'S a solid source composed of loyal democrats
:rofl:

[elizm]

15. EXACTLY!! :) n/t

[sellitman]

4. Gore-Obama works for me.

or

Gore & Fill in the blank

[Colobo]

5. Obama-Anyone works just as well

[sellitman]

6. Ok.

If signing on would guarantee a Democratic victory I'd agree.

[movonne]

7. Gore, Edwands....Gore Obama.. as long as Gore was running, either

one would be fine with me...although I'm an Edwards fan....

[David Zephyr]

2. Kudos for Obama!

Obama needs to ignore Hillary and continue presenting himself and his own message and letting people get to know him.

[saracat]

8. I still think Edwards will cut through the first two and this looks promising.

We shall see.I will support whomever is the Dem. candidate. I have not yet endorsed anyone but am definately leaning Edwards. But I must say Hillary impressed me in the last Debate and I was not a Hillary fan. I have yet to be smitten by Obama.I still don't see any substance but he is a nice guy.

[Colobo]

9. That's fine. Obama's presidency will change your mind. :)

[elizm]

13. I like your attitude! :) n/t

[AwareOne]

11. Edwards/Clark can win

anything else would be folly. The simpletons of this country are not ready to elect a woman or a black as president. Sounds horrible doesn't it! Don't make them prove it.

[Colobo]

16. If you are trying to promote Edwards over here

That's not an effective strategy.

[AwareOne]

18. I'm not for Edwards so much as for any Democrat

I will fully support whoever gets the nomination. I'm just being realistic. Neither Clinton or Obama can win in a general election.

[Colobo]

19. If change depended on "realistic" people like you

there would be no social change.

[AwareOne]

23. I beg your pardon, I think Edwards/Clark would be quite a change

from any Republican ticket. Let's not try to hit a home run here, a base hit would be just fine.

[Colobo]

25. Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama in the WH is true social change

After 231 years of white males ruling our Nation, Clinton and Obama represent the true opening of the American political field to minority populations.

[saracat]

29. That is a matter of opinion. I don't blieve any of us should vote by gender or race.

The fact that Hillary is female and Obama parrt black has no bearing on their credentials.I want the best candidate to win and I don't care what race or gender they are. I think it smacks of soft bigotry to consider those issues, but that is only my opinion.

[Colobo]

33. People can vote for whoever they want for the reasons they want

[saracat]

36. And wouldn't that be sad if those were the reasons they choose. How would that make anyone better

than the FGOP who vote for personal religious reasons.Sad,Very sad if true.

[elizm]

37. HA! And what planet do you live on? n/t

[illinoisprogressive]

12. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

[draft_mario_cuomo]

20. Is HRC fading in NH? She was up 34-18-15 in the last pre-debate poll

Let's hope so! :bounce:

[Colobo]

21. Let's hope she is!

[ElizabethDC]

22. Was it the same polling organization?

When comparing polls across time, it's generally best to use polls from the same polling organization.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

32. No. This is apparently Mason-Dixon's first NH poll

I looked at the site Rinsd linked too and this is the first MD poll there. Let's see if this is an anomaly or a sign of a shift in NH. The NH polls have been a lot more inconsistent than the Iowa ones. Some NH polls have shown her with a commanding lead, others have had the race close, while 2-3 had Obama leading at various points. In Iowa the margins have consistently been close.

[rinsd]

24. Hillary's lead in NH polls varies from a low of 2 to a high of 22.

They average out to her leading by double digits.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_primary-194.html

Please note while I am not crazy about real clear polticis..well politics they have compiled the polls for easy access.

[Colobo]

26. But what about this latest poll?

[SaveElmer]

30. Will have to see if is a trend...

Right now it is out of whack a bit with other NH polls...

We will see...next week how things shape up

[ElizabethDC]

27. Thanks for the link

the spreadsheet format makes it much easier to see everything!

[Nedsdag]

31. But..but..but..but

Hillary's leading by 198 percentage points over Obama in the poll after the debate.

:sarcasm:

[mckeown1128]

34. This is great news for Obama and Edwards

If Obama can jump ahead in NH it combined with Edwards winning in Iowa and Obama winning SC it could open the race up for Obama or Edwards to do very well on super-duper-almighty-tuesday-of-destiny.:woohoo:

[illinoisprogressive]

35. i like that.

[Ethelk2044]

39. This is Great

[OneBlueSky]

38. at this point in the campaign, polls are meaningless . . . particularly since . . .

they all become null and void as soon as Al Gore announces . . .

in political time, 18 months is an eternity . . . whatever people may be thinking today is most assuredly not what they will be thinking a year from now . . . too much can (and likely will) happen in the meantime . . .

[bvar22]

40. Good News for people who want more Imperial Wars.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- If elected president, Sen. Hillary Clinton said, she would likely keep some U.S. forces in Iraq in a supporting role after 2009 because America has "a remaining military as well as a political mission" that requires a presence there.
However, in an interview with The New York Times published Thursday, Clinton said the American troops would not play a role in trying to curb sectarian violence.
Rather, they would be positioned north of Baghdad to combat terrorists, support the Kurds, counter any Iranian moves into Iraq and provide logistical, air and training support to the Iraqi government "if the Iraqis ever get their act together."


Obama outlined a plan for maintaining a U.S. presence in Iraq similar to Clinton's.
"Withdrawal would be gradual, and we'd keep some U.S. troops in the region to prevent a wide war, to go after al Qaeda and other terrorists," he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/15/clinton.troops/index.html

This is the exact same military mission that bush* currently claims.


When your BIG MONEY comes from Wall St, MIC, and OIL, you have to do their bidding.


The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[Capn Sunshine]

42. Just curious- your solution is.............?

Please enlighten us with your wisdom , because everyone's got an axe to grind.

[bvar22]

44. Step 1: End all combat operations TODAY.

Step 2: Withdraw ALL US Military personal to INSIDE bases with orders to fire ONLY if fired upon.

Step 3: Immediately expel ALL civilian security contractors TODAY.

Step 4: Give Sadam's Baghdad Palace (Green Zone) BACK to the Iraqis, immediately redeploy ALL US personnel to other US Bases for orderly withdrawal to the US.

Step 5: Declare ALL contracts signed with foreign corporations since the Invasion NULL & VOID, especially those that have privatized Iraqi assets.

Step 6: On bended knee, BEG the UN and neighboring Middle East countries to clean up the mess we made in Iraq and offer to fund stabilizing and rebuilding efforts by other countries with NO strings attached.

Step 7: Begin orderly withdrawal of ALL US Military forces from their bases.

Step 8: Pledge to hold those responsible for War Crimes accountable to the International community.

Step 9: Use the $Billions to fund Alternative Energy & Conservation, International Law Enforcement, and Border and Port security to deal with Middle Eastern terrorism.

These 9 things would be a good beginning. The only way to fix Iraq is to stop breaking Iraq.

Cheers.

[Drunken Irishman]

43. Don't buy New Hampshire polls.

Because they are too dependant on the Iowa results. If Hillary flames out in Iowa and finishes 3rd, she's toast in New Hamsphire.

[wildbilln864]

45. Go Edwards! n/t

[mckeown1128]

46. Kick