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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 06:15 PM
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COLOMBIA-ECUADOR: 'There Are No Plants or Animals Left'
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 07:10 PM by MH1
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=38067

Apologies for chopping this up, trying to meet the spirit of copyright. You need to read the whole thing, you really do.

COLOMBIA-ECUADOR: 'There Are No Plants or Animals Left'
By Constanza Vieira


Credit: Acción Ecológica

BOGOTA, Jun 6 (IPS) - A new U.S. government report acknowledges that coca crops expanded last year in Colombia, despite the heavy herbicide spraying carried out under Plan Colombia, which has been loudly protested by neighbouring Ecuador for causing damages to human and animal health and food crops in border areas.

(snip)


The umbrella group's first study found that a large number of animals, mainly fish, had died. No one has specifically studied the impact of the spraying in rivers and other water sources. "All of the campesinos (peasant farmers) mentioned that a large number of pregnant farm animals had miscarried," said Maldonado.

(snip)

Meanwhile, "among the Colombian population what we found was an extremely high level of depression. The people knew it was the state that was doing this to them, and as a result there was no chance of turning to any official body for help, so they felt abandoned and neglected, and felt the need to leave the area," said Maldonado.

(snip)

But two years later, when they were once again asked to make drawings about the spraying, "the children began to show the bloodshed. What stood out in the drawings were the shooting and armed clashes. There was a major military presence, airplanes that practically filled the entire sheet of paper," he described.

In 2006, when the children were asked to draw a family, "we were absolutely shocked and shaken," said Maldonado.

"First of all, they stopped using colours. They abandoned colour. And second, they stopped drawing mouths. They no longer drew smiles. The only thing they put in were big open eyes, but no ears or mouths. That is a reflection of the children's inability to express what is happening," he said.

(snip)

One little boy, Diego Gonzaga, from the village of El Cóndor near the San Miguel River that marks the border, painted a pig lying upside down, and wrote: "My piggy died. I loved him very much. I was going to buy my uniform to go to school. I ask whoever sees and reads what is in my drawing to help me to be able to finish primary school. There are no plants or animals left."

Next to the San Miguel River is a warning sign that reads: "River polluted by Plan Colombia".


I ask you, what right do we have to do this? People may say we have to stop drugs coming into this country because drugs hurt OUR youth. But how does that give us the right to poison someone else's ground and hurt someone else's children?

GOD DAMN IT WHAT GIVES US THE RIGHT?

And now they want to do it in Afghanistan, to the opium crop...because for some reason we can't buy up the opium to use in our hospitals for people in pain...instead we will put more people in pain... and we will say we are "fighting terrorism."

Even if it somehow would stop drug abuse in our cities and somehow reduce the risk to US of terrorism...

WHAT GIVES US THE RIGHT?

Please tell me, because I sure as hell don't know.


edited to add link to Afghanistan story
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 06:17 PM
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1. What gives us the right? The governments that allow it.
Latin America is more to blame for it's own problems than the US. This country has always taken advantage of the greed and, yes, stupidity, of Latin American politicians.

As a Latin American myself, I got to admit it.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 06:25 PM
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2. So if a government invites us to massacre its citizens,
we have the right to actually do that?

Is Latin America to blame for Plan Colombia?

To be honest, I am not an expert in the politics of the drug war, I just know that it is insane to destroy farmers' land in the name of "fighting terrorism" - and that is what the US is pushing for in Afghanistan right now. There was a series of articles in the Financial Times last week - they are behind the subscriber wall now - that got me outraged about what they are doing in Afghanistan - then I see this in my email today. Saying - Plan Colombia isn't even "working"! So all this destruction, for a failed policy, and we are poised to do it again!

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 06:33 PM
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4. That's not the point
The US has the wrong approach when it comes to the so-called drug war. Instead of attacking consumption, they attack "production". Still, in the past Bolivia, and now Ecuador and Colombia, allow the US to "attack production", regardless of the negative impact that has on those countries, in exchange of millions of $$$.

So, Is Colombia to blame for Plan Colombia? Absolutely. They are the ones accepting it and even asking for more money.

The US is simply taking advantage of the situation, because we can.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 07:13 PM
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5. The "US" is not taking advantage of the situation
the profiteers with their hands on the controls of our government, are ripping off the taxpayer yet again for a failed policy that enriches only the contractors who carry it out, while inflicting misery and making the rest of us less safe.

The Latin American governments are partially to blame for accepting this, but there has been some arm-twisting from the US government, you can be sure.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 06:29 PM
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3. "Ooooops - smirk, smirk, smirk" - Commander AWOL
"Looks like me and my cabal of corrupt cronies have totally screwed the pooch -- again -- as usual -- smirk, smirk, smirk"

- Commander AWOL
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:40 PM
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9. Actually Plan Colombia was a Clinton program
Maybe we should ask Hillary and the other candidates about "Plan Colombia".
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 07:06 AM
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11. Yes it was. This is an issue that has slipped completely off the radar
with the slaughter in the Middle East. We are decimating the environment in these countries and killing thousands of people. This seems to be the only thing we do anymore.


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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:56 PM
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14. It's what empires do best!
If the people allow their "democratic & accountable to the people" government to get away with (mass) murder, what does that say about us?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 07:44 AM
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12. But it took Commander AWOL & republicon cronies to bring it to 'fruition'
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 07:45 AM by SpiralHawk
Nobody but nobody screws theings up like thye republicons, who then -- inevitable -- blame Clinton (who, may I remind you has been out of office for six -- that's 6 -- frikkin years Adjust the way back machine

republicon motto: blame clinton
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:59 PM
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15. I'm just pointing out the history of this program. All of the money and aircraft, sent by Clinton
I'm sorry that this insanity was pushed through by Bill, but that is the fact of it. Look it up and prove me wrong.

So long as we allow the dems to keep up the insane drug war, things like this will be rubber stamped again and again and again.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:55 AM
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13. Thank you for pointing that out,
I didn't know that. I knew it had been around awhile and thought it was a Bush I thing that dems hadn't had the political will to end.

Thank you for setting the record straight!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 07:27 PM
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6. The long-term effects will be very, very bad.
"Samples were taken from 47 Colombian and Ecuadorian women who were selected because they live along the border and do not come into contact with pesticides in their work or other day-to-day activities, but were in the area when the Plan Colombia planes sprayed the glyphosate mix."

"We determined that 36 percent of the cells in the samples taken from the women were damaged, on average. A normal level of genetic damage in the population at large, whether urban or rural, is four percent, as was found in the control group of 25 women studied more than 80 km from the fumigated area, inside Ecuador," said Maldonado.

"That obviously means the risk of cancer, congenital malformations in fetuses or miscarriages is extremely high, practically 800 percent higher than normal," the doctor observed. "


Animals and plants will be damaged, too. And poor people aren't going to give up growing coca or opium poppies or marijuana as long as there is demand for them.

We should stop poisoning people and the earth.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 07:34 PM
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7. Might makes right
Everything other thing about it is wrong. It's a waste and a sin in the truest and deepest sense of the word.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 07:51 PM
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8. Drug War is a lie --
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 07:53 PM by defendandprotect
American Imperialism seems to be the law which permits these outrages --
Some day, hopefully these issues will be in International Criminal Courts and thugs and criminals like Bush and Cheney will be tried.

The Drug War is largely a lie -- but also used as an excuse to interfere in other nations.

Exxon-Mobil made $36 billion last year?
How much is involved in the Drug Trade which represents tremendous power?

The Taliban were winding down drug production in Afghanistan --
AFTER our invasion it has reached new peaks -- !!!

Our American banks are involved in laundering drug money --
and so are many other banks -- including the Vatican bank!

Drugs = $ = power.
This kind of crime doesn't go on with having cooperation of government and police enforcers.
And finally, being taken over by elites.

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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 05:19 AM
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10. It's only "the lungs of the planet" being destroyed down there
I'm sure we can find an artificial respirator for the planet somewhere..

Check out the beehivecollective online. I saw their presentation artwork about Plan Colombia. It was a beautiful thing.
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