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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:01 AM Original message |
POLL: Hillary leads Obama by a dozen (33% - 21%), down five points since March, Gore at 20% |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
1. The Gore votes are all from Hillary - and likely go back to Hillary if no Gore run n/t |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. And you know this how? |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
42. I will not vote for Hillary |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
46. Re Gore votes from Hillary - click on link and see change is no change except Gore up/Hillary down |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
26. I am hoping that Gore runs, think he will |
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momophile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
38. if Gore doesn't run, I'll vote Kucinich |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
2. yes, but Obama hasn't gained and leads someone not even in the race by 1 point. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. That's one way to look at it. I'm wondering if Gore can resist with numbers like this. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. like papau observed, and like other polls have suggested... |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Lieberman was the front runner in 2002 and Kerry was fourth. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I'm curious why people still push that canard? |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. He was also riding in on Gores coattails. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
34. Coattails? Gore is to Lieberman as Bill is to Hillary? |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Thats was in 2002. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
45. Okay, Dean had the fundraising machine and boots on the ground in 2002. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. True that her numbers tend to increase in polls without Gore. But i don't think there's evidence to |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. if in poll after poll... |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I know I would. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. It's early. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I agree. I recall a poll from a while back that showed "low information," less interested voters |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. In very recent USA Today poll Obama beats Hillary by 1 with Gore in the race |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. this AP - Ipsos Poll is newer and resembles other polls |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Hillary down 6, Obama up 4, Gore up 1 since their last poll. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. ...but no other poll says that. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #24 |
47. And,as I said, we will see whether it is an outlier or a trend. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. And 2/3 of the party wants someone besides Hillary |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. ...which means more of the party want someone besides Obama |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Not surprising, since he is comparatively unknown |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. no really anymore. In Nov. 2006, 2/3 of voters were familiar with Obama |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. "Name recognition" doesn't mean shit |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I'll quote you on that next time an Obama supporter claims "name recognition" in regards to Clinton. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Which I acknowledge, but you're in a linguistic rut |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. If thats true, why does she lead in most of the polls? |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Name recognition. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Edwards has higher name recognition than Obama. Why isn't he leading Obama? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:21 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Because those who know Edwards also know Hillary and many have gone with her... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. ...and you know this how? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. hey, an Obama supporter in this poll says name recognition "doesn't mean shit." What say YOU? |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Obviously, I disagree. |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Polls are showing Obama is gain ground. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:03 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. The media states Obama now how has name recognition |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. This Gallup poll contradicts you. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. you don't think 75% of people recognizing your name is "name recognition?" |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Not relative to Hillary's nearly universal name recognition... |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. We ought to think long and hard about nominating someone who 51% say they will never vote for-- |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Did the Poll |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. so you believe polls when they are convenient to you? In post 25, you had no problem with polls. |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-09-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. No Right Now |
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