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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:43 PM
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Even if you don't like Hillary Clinton you should be outraged at Gerth
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19092206/page/4/

MR. RUSSERT: Let’s go right to it. One of the important parts of this book is this notion of a grand design by Bill and Hillary Clinton to each serve two terms in the White House. This is the way you write about it: “By the summer of 1993, the ways of Washington had not dissuaded Bill or Hillary. According to one of their closest friends, Taylor Branch, they still planned two terms in the White House for Bill, and, later, two for Hillary.” You know what’s happened now, this is The Washington Post reporting on this: “The authors report that the Clintons updated their plan after the 1992 election, determining that Hillary would run when Bill left office. They cite two people,” former Times reporter “Ann Crittenden and John Henry, who said Taylor Branch, the Pulitzer Prize-winning historian and close Clinton friend, told them” “the Clintons ‘still planned two terms in the White House for Bill and, later, two for Hillary.’ Contacted last night, Branch said that ‘the story is preposterous.’” “‘I never heard either Clinton talk about a “plan” for them’” both to “‘become president.’” What do you say?

MR. JEFF GERTH: Well, Tim, I interviewed Ann Crittenden and John Henry, and they both separately recalled a barbecue dinner in Aspen, Colorado, in 1993 at a rodeo with Taylor Branch, and they were remembering him saying that he’d just come from the White House—he’s a historian, and he’d begun talking with President Clinton, and he told them about—that Bill Clinton was going to serve eight years and then, at some point, Hillary was going to do eight years in the White House. I later contacted Taylor Branch, asked him if he remembered the dinner in Aspen. He said he didn’t, but he said he wouldn’t deny it. Then he later, when the book came out, said it was preposterous. I think I would add, Taylor is a respected historian, but he himself has admitted that when it comes to Bill Clinton he can’t be objective. So there are two people—you know, Ann Crittenden’s an award-winning journalist—two people who say yea, and Taylor Branch says nay. I mean, I think more interestingly and more surprisingly, the ambition of the Clintons going back to when they were in their 20s, and the 20 year project that Leon Panetta remembers Bill Clinton describing to him.

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MR. VAN NATTA JR.: Well, Senator, Senator Clinton didn’t speak with us for this book, Tim, and...

MR. RUSSERT: Did you ask her?

MR. VAN NATTA JR.: We did. We went to her at the very beginning. In fact, I reached out to Howard Wolfson, her communications person, and when we told him about this book, he sighed audibly and it was as if somebody had punched him in the stomach, and he let us know that she had heartburn, basically, about this book, and so did Lorraine Voles. And it went beyond just Senator Clinton not cooperating with us. She put out the word not only to her aides and friends not to cooperate, and we were lucky that some did, but she also had—some of her people on her staff urged some senators not to talk to us, including Harry Reid. So I’m not at all surprised by Philippe’s statement.

text added by me Gee Tim, had this been a politician you might have pointed out why Hillary might have not wanted to cooperate. Could it be that Gerth had a well known history of lying about both Bill and Hillary. Whitewater was ginned up by him and turned out to be nothing but lies told by right wing kooks.

MR. RUSSERT: Jeff Gerth, also supporters of Hillary Clinton say your wife is a foreign policy adviser for Chris Dodd, and that’s a conflict of interest, because he’s running against Senator Clinton, and you shouldn’t be authoring a book against one of Senator Dodd’s opponents.

MR. GERTH: Well, we disclose in the book who my wife is and who she works for, and, you know, she works for Coke and I work for Pepsi, and we’ve kept our lives separate for 25 years.

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Let's be blunt here. Gerth is a lying liar. Russert did nothing, nothing to point that out. No mention of any of Gerth's history with Weng Lo Lee either. Gerth is a total disaster as a reporter who clearly hates all things Clinton. Make no mistake about it, no matter who our nominee is the lying liars of the press will make up lies about him or her. This won't stop with Clinton and we all know better.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:47 PM
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1. When I saw that interview I wanted to choke someone
The no one question I had was Who in the fuck are this twits that they had the right to tell me who is good and who is bad?
:mad: :mad::mad::mad:
Then the question turns to Where in the fuck were they in 1999 and 2000 when bu$h was running for the White House? They didn't tell us all the shit he had done. Answer, they were too busy keeping the hate for Hillary and Bill.

:nuke:
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:49 PM
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2. In other threads on this board,
Du'ers are saying that the MSM (under some sort of guidance from Republicans) WANTS Hillary Clinton to be the nominee. Tim Russert's interview (the portion cited here) appears to show otherwise.

I would guess that most of the nominees, on both sides of the aisle, have had a grand plan to become president someday. Is there something wrong with that? I thought it was part of the American Dream?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:55 PM
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3. Some DU"ers are saying Republicans want Hillary to be the nominee
Thats the biggest crock of shit around here. They are only using MSM as a guise to try to insulate themselves. Weasels if you ask me.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:00 PM
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4. A Hillary run unites the Right and divides the left. Why wouldn't they want her to run?
Also if she wins we get a Republican LITE president.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:14 PM
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6. Here here.
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:03 PM
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5. Welcome to DU avrdream! Hating Clinton's is big business
and helps the right wing cause. The GOP always needs someone to rally around to hate whether it be gays, muslims, gov't, liberals, Mexicans, or the Clinton's. The GOP has few progressive ideas and they way they build their base is through hate & fear.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:14 PM
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7. Americans are not allowed to be ambitious? Or only WOMEN?
What is the horrible thing here (other than Gerth being unable to tell the truth about anything, kinda like our George)? A woman of talent, intellect, and drive is supposed to have talked with her husband about strategies for doing what NO woman has ever done? HORRORS! HORRORS!

Are people upset that Bill and Hill still talk, still support each other? Well, my gosh, what are THEY doing with family values?

Or, is the real problem that she may actually do it? And how, obviously by gaining support. How is that done, do you suppose? By being abrasive and hateful? Or reasonable and a pleasure to be around? Dear me, that can't be Hillary Clinton, the mother of the well-balanced Chelsea...IT MUST BE A PLOT!

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 06:42 PM
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11. yes it is a plot
a wayward husband, a "stand by your man wife",and a daughter that clearly loves them both... i bet there`s a lot of people who know married couples just like the clintons. what people really disapprove of is men trading in wifes for a newer model while their kids terrorize the neighborhood..
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:39 PM
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8. Its all so silly
So a politician wanting to be President is news now?
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 06:11 PM
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10. Yeah, that's sort of what I was saying.
You just said it with better sarcasm than I did. Thanks.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 06:03 PM
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9. Mark dsc's word...
If, as Democrats, you don't defend Clinton now why do you think anyone will defend Obama/Edwards when their time comes. And you know it will.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:44 PM
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12. Gerth was all over Bill Clinton when he was
President. I figured he lived in
Dumpsters--searching for trash.

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