How many Women here support Hillary and how many don't?

[The_Progressive]

Just a thread for the Wimmyn Folk © here. Would you support her for President? If not, why not?

[jobycom]

1. You want an exact number?

:shrug:

[The_Progressive]

3. Yes. Accurate to ± 0.007%

If you please. :hi:

[jobycom]

5. LOL!

Who gets to be that .007% of a person? :rofl:

[Betsy Ross]

2. I will not support her in the primaries.

99.9% certain that I will vote for the Democratic candidate in actual election.

I don't like her politics, disappointed in the first viable female candidate.

[zanne]

105. Betsy Ross took the words right out of my mouth. nt

[TwilightGardener]

4. She's my second choice, after Obama. I will gladly support her if she's the nominee.

[libnnc]

6. She's not my candidate for the primaries

If she's the nominee, I'll support her

[IdaBriggs]

7. I'm a woman, and I don't support her.

I am in the "I don't support dynasties" club. She has already been in the White House, and I don't want her back. Between the Bush family and the Clintons, we have already had two families in the white house (including the vice presidential period) for TWENTY-EIGHT YEARS.

I think she did a wonderful job as "First Lady," and the people of New York seem happy to have her as a Senator. That is enough power. Time for new blood -- there is a "two term limit" for a reason.

[RamboLiberal]

26. I feel the same as you - don't like dynasties

I won't vote for her in the primary and just because her name is Clinton I do think she'd be a risky candidate to run - just too big a negative factor in so many voters. But if she's the nominee I would certainly vote for her.

[jmp]

51. Between the Bush family and the Clintons

Between the Bush family and the Clintons, we have already had two families in the white house (including the vice presidential period) for TWENTY-EIGHT YEARS.

Yep. Of course if Obama is elected, that would mean 32 straight years of the Bush/Clinton/Obama dynasties. The same applies to Edwards. :eyes:

Bush 41 & Bush 43 have nothing to do with the Clintons. Attempting to saddle Hillary with Bush Sr & Jr is lame.

[Capn Sunshine]

65. If she's the nominee, you'll hear this ten times a day on corp Media

I guaran-damn-tee .

[Cha]

85. How about saddling bill with

41?

[IdaBriggs]

97. If you are missing my point (that I don't want "immediate family"

of White House residents getting power) then allow me to clarify it:

SHE'S ALREADY BEEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE ONCE, AND I DON'T WANT HER BACK THERE.

TWO FAMILIES HAVE BEEN IN CONTROL FOR TWENTY-EIGHT YEARS, AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT THIRTY SIX.

Put Obama (or any other candidate of your choice), and that makes it THREE families. Which I like better.

Personally, I believe one of the reasons President Clinton was able to "make things better" was because he got rid of the folks who had been entrenched for TWELVE YEARS who had been screwing with our country. Unfortunately, Junior brought them all back. :(

But the folks President Clinton brought in (while obviously COMPETENT) have now been too close to the power themselves. Let the next generation of leaders come in (and I'm not talking age). Eight years in power is enough -- sixteen is too much.

For my money, political dynasties are NOT GOOD.

[soothsayer]

8. I sure won't vote against her if she gets the nod.

[zalinda]

9. I am not a registered dem, so I can't vote for anyone

in the primaries. If she wins the primary, I'll back her.

zalinda

Oh, I'm not registered dem, so I'll get visited and called by the other side, I like to know what they are up to. I couldn't go as far as registering as a repub.

[AtomicKitten]

10. if she gets the nod

I will work my ass off for her as I will for whomever wins the primary ....

and in a perfect world the nominee will be Al Gore.

[Hekate]

17. Same here. I really want a Dem who can WIN, for gods' sake

I'm not sure that's Hillary, although she's so qualified and well-spoken that Mr. H listened to her in the "debate" and the "faith" questionnaire and decided he really likes her. Mr. H is hard to please, being a Dem who's really a Green at heart -- but he likes intelligence.

As for me, I like Edwards and Obama and Clinton and Gore. I like them ALL. None are disqualified in my books.

Hekate

[AtomicKitten]

19. we MUST win the WH in 2008

... and a veto-proof majority in Congress would facilitate some real change without the inconvenience of the filibuster-prone Rs.

We will vote our heart in the primary and then close ranks.

Now, about those voting machines ...

[Hekate]

21. "We will vote our heart in the primary and then close ranks." Amen!! nt

[annabanana]

100. exactly. . . n/t

[otohara]

114. I Won't Work My Ass Off, But

I will vote for her if she gets the nod.

[ElizabethDC]

11. I'm a woman, and I support Hillary. n/t

[emilyg]

24. Same here

[kowanda32]

99. I Support Hillary. N/T

[Manifestor_of_Light]

12. I don't support her.

I don't support her because she is too conservative, bought off by the corporations, and doesn't speak unless some focus group or expert tells her what to say as to offend the least number of people. She is brilliant but she is too conservative, just like her husband.

That said, I will support her if she is the nominee.

The only candidate that is liberal enough for me is Dennis, and he will be marginalized.

[ginnyinWI]

13. did you hear what they said on MSNBC?

They said that women favor Hillary over Obama, but NOT women with college degrees, and not women her own age (55+).

Since I am in both groups, no surprise that I don't support her (unless the alternative is a repub).

[Totally Committed]

41. I am in that category as well, and I do not support her.

Since she is DLC, I won't be voting for her even if she is our nominee. I will take the election cycle off and go on vacation through election day. It will be the first election in my life that I will sit out, but I'll do it. I will never ever ever vote for a DLC-Rightist-DINO again for anything.

TC

[Nedsdag]

48. Me? I'll leave the Presidential part of the ballot blank

and vote for the rest of the Democratic ticket (Senate, Congress, et al).

I can't bring myself to vote for her but I'm in a solid blue state anyway so it wouldn't matter.

[silverweb]

14. Not in the primary.

A major reason is that she's just way too hawkish.

[sandnsea]

15. For the Dem Candidate, no way

I'd vote for her President though.

She's everything DU says they hate. I can't understand why anybody here is supporting her.

[Orangepeel]

16. she's not my primary choice, but I'd sure support her in the general, should she be nominated

Of course I'll support her for president if she is the Democratic nominee.

[roody]

18. Will not vote for her. I'm registered Green.

No war maker will get my vote.

[Captain_Nemo]

29. Maybe looking at the issues that are in front of us is the way to go. Global warming, war, etc.

[roody]

52. You nominate Kucinich. I will vote for him.

[saracat]

20. I am not thrilled with her as the first woman with a chance but am liking her better.

But I will NOT vote for anyone based on race or gender.I look at qualifications and she is NOT the most qualified and sad to say she isn't the most charasmatic either.I will support her should dhe be the nominee, but so fat=r that is as far as I go.It could change .She was grreat in the Debate.However, I have met her and don't feel she really gives a darn about the average folk.I jope I am wrong.That was just my impression.

[BlueIris]

22. I'm a voting, *very* active female Democrat and I don't support her.

I'm one of the under 30 crowd, too. Good luck, Hillary.

[LeFleur1]

23. Over 50, Post College Degree

Of course I support Hillary. I'm not sure she's the candidate I'll vote for in the primaries, but if she wins the nomination, I'll work for her candidacy.
I don't see her as the big bad Mama that some on DU do.

None of the candidates is perfect. Dodd is experienced, but boring. Still, he'd probably be a very good president. Richardson has great presidential qualities. Edwards says all the right things and if he got the nod, I'd vote for him. Obama speaks with eloquence, and spirit, but he is inexperienced. Still, he'd most likely make a good president with the right appointees and VP. Gravel could probably run the country but he's into pointing fingers instead of laying out his plans for the future, so I don't think he has a chance. Kucinich's ideas are great to hear, but he is too far left to get the nomination, even if he's right. Biden would bring experience to the office, and has sense about things.
I would vote for any one of them, and do believe any one of them would do a good job of trying to heal this wounded country.

[Alamom]

34. self delete...wrong place

[ShortnFiery]

40. Under 50, Advanced Degree.

No, I won't vote for HRC ... ever. I don't even recognize "the woman" I once admired in the 1990s with her present "arrogant demeanor" that resembles the bluster of one of the most horrific women in the history of politics, "Margaret Thatcher." :thumbsdown:

Before my husband retired from The Marine Corps, I was one of the *very few* officer's wives who supported HRC. I even made sure that people knew that I admired her strength of character and unwavering support of her husband. Back then, she was not what she is portraying to us now. In essence an insecure woman who is covering by, "Trying to OUT-Macho her male peers."

I'm disappointed with her transformation. As a former Army Officer myself, it was my listening skills and subsequent assertive behavior along with delegation of duties (not responsibility) that proved the *MOST* prized and effective tools of leadership.

HRC is trying to become an American Margaret Thatcher and it's just SAD. Words cannot describe how disappointed I am in HRC and her handlers. :(

[Captain_Nemo]

30. Who do you like better than her and why?

[LibDemAlways]

25. I will not vote for her in the primary. I still

think Gore is going to get into this thing and be the eventual nominee. If it's Hillary, though, I'll vote for her, but without enthusiasm.

[Captain_Nemo]

27. I am voting for her.

[salin]

28. If she wins the nomination, I will support her - as she is far better

than anything the GOP has to offer. But thus far, she is not in my top primary choices. Not that it matters, given that I vote in a May primary and my primary vote never matters.

[IndianaGreen]

31. Clinton is not the answer to Bush-Clinton-Bush dynastic streak

As Obama said, it is time to turn the page forward.

Kucinich for President!

[Lindsey]

32. I just don't know..I vascilate on her and the possibility of the baggage

being brought into the fold if she's the one. My concern is that she could be being propped up and the Repugs. hope she's the candidate and will count on the possibility that she's still polorizing and people will vote for whomever they have. I don't know if I can take the chance. Right now, I'm leaning toward Gore.

[Lindsey]

33. I just don't know..I vascilate on her and the possibility of the baggage

being brought into the fold if she's the one. My concern is that she could be being propped up and the Repugs. hope she's the candidate and will count on the possibility that she's still polorizing and people will vote for whomever they have. I don't know if I can take the chance. Right now, I'm leaning toward Gore.

[Alamom]

35. Over 50 and I support her completely. I know many other women

who support her..... all age groups, education and economic status.

I know many men who support her too. (these polls are sometimes, curious ????)



However, I will support & vote for the Democratic Nominee as I have since 1972.

This will be my 10th Presidential Election to vote for a Democratic Team. :kick:



(I think I added right..it's early)

[Connonym]

36. Not my primary choice

but of course I'd vote for her in the general election and I'd feel good about doing so.

[JTFrog]

37. I am a woman.

I will not vote for her. She wants to stay in Iraq for decades. She will never come up with a single payer health care plan because the insurance companies and health industries are lining her pockets to the tune of the second largest contributions to any Senator (right behind Santorum).

[bread_and_roses]

38. F, 50+, NY, do not support

Not that it matters, I'm not a Democrat and have no Primary vote. For what it's worth (not much, anecdote being what it is) none of the group of very active, politically involved, mostly D women that I do political work with want to see her as the nominee either. All of us worked hard on her '00 election and everyone I've heard mention it cast a protest vote against her in '06 (although not, of course, for the R).

edit for typo

[Kahuna]

39. Not my first choice. For now I support Obama and I'm really hoping

for Al Gore.

[Carolina]

42. No way, not ever

Can't stand her triangulation and her "if I'd known then what I know now" malingering excusitis about her awful judgment and political cowardice on Iraq.

[LWolf]

43. I do not support her.

I don't like her record in the Senate, I don't like her DLC support, and I've never trusted her.

I lost any respect for her when she chose not to stand up for herself instead of enabling her philandering husband. That's personal, not political, but it cut deep with me. I don't think a strong woman ought to be helping to perpetuate the norm of "excusing" cheating.

[Hersheygirl]

44. In the primaries, no way.

I believe she voted for the war bacause she was thinking about her chances of winning the white house should the war go well. In otherwards she was looking out for her own good. I doh't buy what she is saying about her vote for the war. However, with all that said I will support her if she gets the nod, although I won't be happy about it.

[ima_sinnic]

45. no, I don't like her and won't vote for her

she is a corporate enabler and does not take a true stand on anything but rather waits to see which way the wind blows. She is a panderer. She is DLC, which is anathema to me. I find her insincere and NOT A LEADER.

I totally TOTALLY resent the fact that she has been being shoved down our throats for quite some time now. The slimeball greedhead corporate bloodsuckers know who THEY want and thus have well-orchestrated her "campaign."

I also truly hate the "dynasty" thing that has been going on here. This is America, ferchrissake--we don't "do" political dynasties--or at least we didn't until that ghoul from hell, GHWB, came of age.

Like at least one other upthread, I will abstain from voting if she is the nominee because, truly, whether there is a D or an R after someone's name, if that person is not 100% for The People but rather some major portion committed to corporate interests, then there truly is no difference. She does not appear to care that people are suffering and dying needlessly in Iraq because of her contribution to the carnage. I cannot in good conscience vote for her.

on edit: typo

[Darth_Kitten]

101. Right on!!!!

:D

Glad you would abstain from voting for her. I don't agree with the "I don't really support her but I'll vote for her anyway" schtick.

Wish people would really think about her record before she entered the race.

[ima_sinnic]

104. thanks --

I was afraid you were going to chide me :(
--too many, "oh gee thanks a lot, why don't you just give your vote away to the republican and write yourself off as a traitor to the max right now and get it over with" kinds of posts going on -- until we have to call each other "comrade," "party loyalty" doesn't really cut it with me--esp. when the D candidate has the same sponsors as the R :grr:

[Darth_Kitten]

108. A few years ago, I guess I wouldn't have felt this way about HC....

but she's WAY too corporate. (not that I could vote anyways, not a citizen)

Watch the democratic base get pushed out AGAIN if HC becomes the candidate. Oh, the base is too liberal for America, we need to draw in the right wing Religious vote as they have been isolated too long :eyes: Suburban Soccer Moms who only get manicures every 2nd week need to have their needs met. Nascar Dads feel left out, too. :eyes:

Let's look for the Third Way. :puke:

[blondie58]

46. I am a woman and I am not wild about Hillary

I would love to have a woman President, but I feel that Hillary is a corporate tool.

I want fresh ideas- someone who really cares about the people- not someone who just does what she thinks will get her the votes.

[Vinca]

47. No, I really can't stand her.

She seems very superficial and scripted and is too far away from my "lefty" views on how the country should be run. I don't want an appeaser in the White House - I want change. That said, if she's the nominee I'll vote for her, but I'd be happier to cast a vote for Barbara Boxer as the first woman president.

[hippiechick]

49. I do not.

Something about her sets off all of my "Lady MacBeth reincarnated" bells and whistles.

I don't doubt that she'd be a better president than what we have now - by a long shot, but I don't trust her or anything that she claims to stand for.

[elizm]

50. Female here...SC...I do NOT support her. n/t

[Clark2008]

53. I'm a woman and I don't support her.

I'll hold my nose and vote for her if she's the nominee, but it won't make a difference. She'll lose by 20 percentage points in my purple state.

There's only one Dem candidate running I wouldn't vote for in the general election and that's only because I don't trust him. I have "trust issues" (LOL!) and cannot seem to compromise myself to vote for people I don't trust. :)

On Edit: That doesn't mean I'd vote for the Republican nominee, either. It just means I'll write in a candidate or vote third party if the Dems nominate this particular candidate. The Republicans are worse, but, as I mentioned above, I doubt my one vote would matter. I don't see any of our current crop of Dems flipping my purplish-red state to blue.

[AmericanGal]

54. I am a teacher and I support Hillary 100%.

I'm from the midwest and for what it's worth the vast majority of teachers I work with support Hillary with a few supporting Obama and a couple for Edwards. I have three college degrees and I'm working on a Master's right now. My age is 50 years young.

[ElizabethDC]

56. Welcome to DU, AmericanGal!

Glad to hear that you're supporting Hillary!

[ripple]

55. Not in the primaries

but certainly in the general.

[Arugula Latte]

57. I'm a woman and I don't support her. I prefer Edwards or Obama.

If she gets the nomination, I will hold my nose and vote for her.

I would love a woman president -- but not the triangulating DLC-appeasing Clinton variety.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

58. 47 year old feminist....

liberal, working class Californian. I have no intention of voting for Hillary in the primary or the general -- if she can't win CA without my vote, she's sunk already.

IMO, she has not been a true leader, wiling to step out in front on an issue when it is NOT popular.

[marlakay]

59. No and the more I read I even question some of Bill...

and the things he did with the DLC...I voted twice for Bill, have never really been into Hillary, she just puts me off. Reminds me of power hungry women at work. And I have worked at large corporations in my lifetime, I am 50. I have worked for many women top bosses and the good ones know how to lead by example without making you feel like they need the power over you.

With Hillary its obvious she only stayed with Bill to get into politics herself. Let's be honest, how can you respect a woman who doesn't respect herself by staying with a man who not only once but many times over was unfaithful to her.

I have thought for years, they are friends/roommates for years that don't have a real marriage. I think Bill is a very smart guy and did good things for the country and I think she isn't doing a bad job as a senator but just like the vote on Iraq finances she waited for Obama to decide and that said alot to me. I admire the ones who spoke out right away on what they believed.

[ChiciB1]

60. Female In FLORIDA... Do NOT Support Her!

Doesn't seem to make much difference though, I keep hearing about how Hillary Clinton has a "lock" when it come to women. Most women I know don't support her either.

As usual, we are getting sold down the river! There MUST be more families than TWO that have the ability to get elected in the U.S. of ASS!

Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton! I've had enough of it myself!!

[electron_blue]

78. that's my only hesitation with her - I don't like the B/C/C/B/B/C dynasty

[ChiciB1]

106. Not My Only Problem, But ONE OF THE BIGGEST!!! n/t

[CTyankee]

61. Won't support her in primary, will in the general.

But this is because I don't think she can win and we need the winningnest of candidates going forward.

I know this is petty but she drives me crazy with her head nodding, accompanied by an artificial smile, when she is speaking to an audience. But this is probably because I had a much reviled boss who did the same damn thing.

[MasonJar]

62. I support Hillary (unless Gore runs.) It is time to give the women a chance.

The men haven't done too well, mainly the GOPers. Ever read Lysistrata? This ballgame has been going on a long time.

[tammywammy]

63. I don't support her in the primaries

[NancyG]

64. F, 56, Masters Degree, and yes

I'd vote for her. If Gore's in, he gets my primary vote. Or Wesley.

I'd love to see a woman as president and she sounds presidential in the primaries.

Any Dem gets my vote in 2008.

[electron_blue]

66. I'm female and I support her.

[artemis133]

67. It's a ways away from the election yet

and I'm not sure if I would support Hillary or ANYBODY at this point. But from the small gleanings of information I have gotten, it would be possible that I would vote for her, although I pretty much have no use for anyone inside the Beltway in Washington, DC. They are not responsive to the people.

[OnionPatch]

68. Yes and No

In the primary, I am thinking I will go with Edwards. (I'd really rather be able to vote for Al Gore.) Hillary doesn't seem to care much about protecting American jobs. I don't like her stance on outsourcing and free trade. Personally, I respect her but she just doesn't do it for me politically.

For president....if she was running against a Republican, you bet I'd support her. I wouldn't agree with everything she would do, but she would be nowhere near the disaster that another Republican president would be. I mean, just think of the Supreme Court. How old is Justice Stevens?

[Ethelk2044]

69. Nope

[hedgehog]

70. I won't support Hillary in the Primary because she won't take a stand and fight.

She had 7 years and a bully pulpit to fight for universal health care, and she backed down the first time she got a bloody nose. Why didn't she make people in trouble under the current system the photo op of the day every day she was First Lady?

[illinoisprogressive]

71. no. why? her and the DLC want to overthrow Dean and the progressives.

she is completely corporate, free trade and has some very shady people as her closest advisors.
i also do not wish for a continuation of the clinton soap opera or the continuing of dynasties.
there is some evidence her and bill would be co presidents and this is a dangerous precedent with the 2 time serving.
I tend to be very into our history and our constitution and stuff.
I do feel she would be a very bad president. She is fine as senator but, I just do not think she has the independent thinking from her shady advisors and or leadership qualities that would make her a good president.
She is extreemly divisive at a time when this country needs to heal it's wounds, come together and work together to solve the major problems facing us.
She has no policy out, is skating on her name, like Paris Hilton does, has not given a reason she's running, has no vision.
She is very scripted and pandering so you don't know where she really stands and what she really cares about. does she really care about the people and this country or corporations and her own wants and needs.
she hangs with people like Murdoch.
There is just alot of things that are questionable about her, no real policies or stands or ideas, no real knowledge of her real agenda, she polarizes even her own party. She is just all wrong.

[ElizabethDC]

76. That's definitely the first comparison of Paris Hilton and Hillary I've ever seen

I have no words, just . . . :rofl:

[Sparkly]

72. She isn't my first choice now, but if she gets the nom I'll sure support her.

And I must say I think she's been doing a terrific job in the debates so far.

[illinoisprogressive]

73. funny, but I won't vote for her in the general either. I will become indie.

[truth2power]

74. Neither will I. n/t

[diamidue]

89. Nor will I. n/t

[No Blood for Hubris]

81. Not so funny, really. Will you prefer McCain, Mitt, or

Rudy running the country over Hillary Clinton?

Interesting.

[truth2power]

102. I'll answer that...

I'm tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.

IMO, 9/11 was a false flag operation, start to finish, and Guliani was one of the major players. But that doesn't seem to bother most Americans. Nor does it seem to bother Hillary, apparently.

That's the problem. The Dems know there's no place we can go. Well, I'm not playing.

[tammywammy]

109. I think I'm leaning that way

If Hillary becomes the candidate, I'll probably not vote for President.....well it depends really. In the end I'd prefer Hillary to Romney, so I might be forced to vote Hillary.

I just hope it doesn't come down to that.

[durtee librul]

75. Nope

Don't care for her. I think she panders way too much to the 'elite' and just gives the rest of us lip service. There is just something about her that rubs me wrong...sorry, I realize that is sooooooo female.

[Crunchy Frog]

77. I don't support her for the nomination.

I will vote for her if she gets the nomination, but not enthusiastically, and not with any expectation that she will actually win.

[No Blood for Hubris]

79. If she's the candidate, I'll happily support her.

She's not my first choice.

If she'd had her way, we'd all have had national health care years ago. Using her vote on the Iraq war to bludgeon her ad nauseaum is useless and stupid. And sexist.

Anyone who prefers Bush and Cheney and his merry band of Republicans to Senator Clinton is no Democrat.

[No Blood for Hubris]

80. Plus, what's all this Clinton "dynasty" stuff?

Chelsea, ok, she'd be part of a Clinton dynasty.

Hillary Rodham is just married to a Clinton. No shared genes there.

Plus, the dynasty stuff is a Republican talking point. How did that wind up being bandied about here?

[A Brand New World]

82. F and 51. I don't like Hillary and I don't dislike her. She really

doesn't impress me one way or the other. I'm praying for Gore and will probably go with Edwards if Gore doesn't get in. If Hillary ends up with the nomination, I will DEFINITELY vote for her over any Repub.

[Morgana LaFey]

83. I can't stand her. Will NOT vote for her in primary. IF she's the

nominee, I'm running away from home.

[Jai4WKC08]

84. I'm female, 52, and I won't support her in the primaries

I could probably stand to vote for her if she wins the nomination. Not that it will matter in my red state.

I don't think she'd be a horrible president. We could do worse. A lot worse. I think we can do a lot better too.

I don't really like the idea of a Clinton dynasty.

But mostly I don't believe she can win. The polls may show her close when matched with the various Repubs, but they don't reflect the way people will turn out to vote against her.

We have a big advantage right now, with so many Repubs unhappy with Bush, and not wanting to vote for a Mormon, or an adulterer, or McCain just because. Nominating Hillary Clinton will throw that advantage out the window. Repubs will crawl over broken glass to vote for anyone to keep a Clinton out of the White House.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

86. She's not my first choice. Or my second, or third.

I'll hold my nose and vote for her if I have to.

[mnhtnbb]

87. I won't support her in the primary. I did give her money for her first Senate race.

I'm female, 56, master's degree.

[PassingFair]

88. Female. / No support from me.

I will vote for the Dem in November. As usual.

I will NOT wear out any shoes for her, if it
comes to it. No money will EVER go from my
wallet to the DLC. Ever. Not with my knowledge.

[williesgirl]

90. Female, 61, won't support her in primary, but will vote if she's nominated. Don't think she can win

the general - talk about a get out the vote energizer for the repukes - they hate her and all of them will vote if she gets the nod.

I think it's a shame the first female with a chance has to be someone like her.

[Gloria]

91. Not me. Corporatist. Once Bill decided to kiss up to Bushco.....

[Texas_Kat]

92. Don't

[xxqqqzme]

93. woman here and do NOT support HRC

The country cannot afford yet another corporate owned puppet. I do not trust her.

If she is the nominee, which the rethugs are hoping she will be, they will use her to turn out that rabid, right, religious base. I know because mother, father, brother, 2 sisters, 1SIL, 1 BIL will make certain they vote against her.

[avrdream]

94. 47 year old college educated professional woman...

supporting Hillary the whole way!

[snowbear]

95. Female here ,, She's 7th on my list...

But of course, if she winds up winning the nomination, I will work to do whatever I can..

(Even if helping out a consolation night party or something.. )

[Triana]

96. 2nd choice. If she's the nominee, I'll vote for her but...

...I'll likely (at least at this point) vote Edwards in the primaries.

[Darth_Kitten]

98. No

Both she and Obama strike me as political opportunists.

[Larkspur]

103. I will not support Hillary in the primary or general election

[windbreeze]

107. NO

why not? because I think it's past time for us to get over the love affair with the Clinton's....period....I don't want our presidents to come only from a couple exclusive families who have unending sources of money...bush/clinton/bush/clinton?....uh uh...I don't happen to think she's the best "person" for the job...will I vote for her, if she's the nominee...I truly don't know...getting tired of holding my nose to vote..
wb

from 5/4/07...taken with grains of salt, but still....I notice who is being shoved down our throats the most...right from the get go...so it makes me wonder...

ROTHSCHILD INSIDE LINE - THE NEXT PRESIDENT IS....


snip

This was also passed on from London. Rumor stuff, but as noted by our STALKER, "where there is smoke, there is fire" and something to many rumors, which this tale is.

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*There are the big money folks who are pulling the strings behind the US political scene … the Rothschilds Family was mentioned.

*A meeting was called in London in 1986 for the money powers. The Bush Family was invited. Seems these people were not happy with Ronald Reagan as they could not control him.

*They said that Papa Bush was to be President in 1988 and that an unknown politician would be President in 1992, Bill Clinton (Yale Skull and Bones). Following him, it would be George Bush Jr. Next in line would be Hillary Clinton, who would run against Guiliani. However, once Guiliani got the nomination, they would release some dirt on him regarding some of this nefarious financial market maneuverings and he would be sunk. In other words, they are setting him up. McCain? … since they can’t control him either, he is out of the picture.
Take or leave this political input, only feedback from London, and it makes fun reading.

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[Blue_In_AK]

110. Blue_in_AK and InTheFlow do not like Hillary

as a candidate. We don't know her personally.

[bling bling]

111. To say I'd enthusastically support her is an understatement.

In the general, that is.

As for the primary, right now I'm going with the person who I like even more.


edit to add Demographics, FTR: 33, college degree, married with children, midwest

[MiniMe]

112. I don't like many of her stands on the issues

And I won't vote for her in the primary. But I will support any D candidate over an R, man or woman, black or white or purple.

[loyalsister]

113. I don't......

by default because I do throw support to another candidate

Like others, I do not think it is healthy to continue a family link within the presidency. It is monarchical if not a dynasty.
Regardless, it is a continuation of ideas and people that I think is not healthy for our democracy.

The candidacy of Hillary Clinton also does not impress upon me one in which the "first woman president" would be elected without the initial influence of her husband.
The undeniable fact of this candidacy is that she would follow him into the presidency. If anyone thinks that history will remember it differently they are sadly mistaken.
If they were both so politically capable why wasn't she first to run?
If they gave in to gender bigotry, she most certainly is the Tammy Wynette she proclaimed not to be.
I don't see her candidacy as the advancement for women that others do.

She is just another candidate and her politics are not mine

[shimmergal]

115. Over 50, with advanced degree.

Not in the caucuses.

I actually like Hillary and was glad she won her NY Senate races, but don't want to see her as the nominee for the following reasons:

1. Too corporate-oriented
2. Her campaign's (and the media's) effort to project a sense of inevitability. Remindes me of the "Fix is in" remark Pat Buchanan made about Shrub's candicacy at about this time in 1999.
3. Doubts about her electability. (That 50% "would never vote for her" figure is a lot to overcome.)
4. Refusal to admit to a mistake on her IWR vote. Bush would have gone in regardless of whether the resolution passed--he was _that_ determined--but her inability to admit she could have been wrong is a bad sign. (Again, too reminescent of *.)

Invalid reasons IMO:
1. The "no difference between her and a Pub." argument. True, she may be 80% corporate-owned but that's better than the 100% of all the Pub contenders. Leaves some room to pressure her too, should she get into office.
2. Her staying with Bill in spite of his infidelities. It's nobody's business but theirs. Even if they secretly had an "open marriage" agreement it wouldn't be anyone else's business, although the puritanical American electorate couldn't cope with that.

I'll vote for her if she's our nominee. Can't imagine voting for any of the Republican contenders, or staying home. I live in a state that _could_ go blue this time; doing either of the latter would be utterly irresponsible. Voting is NOT about making a personal statement or the purity of my soul.

[area51]

116. Rightwing Hilary Clinton

Pro-war, pro-offshoring, anti-America. No fscking thanks.