This is why I think the DU praise of Ron Paul is misguided. . .

[wndycty]

Folks we have to stop reacting both positively and negatively to any politician's or pundit's stance one issue and thing making them into either a hero or a goat. We need to look at anyone's entire body of work. This applies to everyone including Joe Liberman and Ron Paul.

This is dated but before he is praised he needs to be confronted on the following:

-snip-
Paul, writing in his independent political newsletter in 1992, reported about unspecified surveys of blacks.

"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action,"Paul wrote.

Paul continued that politically sensible blacks are outnumbered "as decent people." Citing reports that 85 percent of all black men in the District of Columbia are arrested, Paul wrote:

"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal," Paul said.

Paul also wrote that although "we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."
-snip-

http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/aol-metropolitan/96/05/23/paul.html

[yardwork]

1. Why would anyone here support any Republican?

The mind boggles. And by Republican, I mean Lieberman too.

[wndycty]

4. As long as he caucuses with the Dems. . .

. . .and gives us the majority we need to keep him under the tent.

[xultar]

2. I was gonna post this too. I saw it on some site this am. Thanks for posting it!!!

[LaurenG]

3. As far as I can tell there is no DU praise of Ron Paul.

:shrug:

[madrchsod]

14. i have seen a few in the last couple of weeks..

[glowing]

5. #1. He's a Republican. So, rampant support for him on a democratic

site is a bit foolish.

#2. I've seen these snippets of info from his articles a couple of times now, but no link back to the articles. These are brazen statements, but give me the whole article and I will make up my own mind. I'm going to google some research. It doesn't seem that someone who is as educated as he is, would also be a bold faced biggot. (but I could be completely wrong--off to google.)

#3. Once again, this is a democratic site, why do you think that he has such rampant support?

[wndycty]

6. There is a link in the OP

:kick:

[glowing]

8. Its a link to someone else's work. The original source is the source

that is best to read, or at least that's what my history teachers have always taught me.

[glowing]

7. On second thought... perhaps he was trying to drum up support

for the endless, senseless war on drugs (which I know he's against from listening to a taped youtube thingy where he was speaking). I watch all those youtube thingy's... often times its where you find the idiotic statements and the real ideals of a candidate... anyway like I said before, off to google and see if I can find the articles those were snipped out of. I know the Repugs are trying to discredit him left and right because they are scared of him.

I don't want to vote for him. He wants to privatize too many things. He doesn't care for universal healthcare, and after ending the war, that's my next biggest kick. I love Kucinich's plan. Kick the corporate bums out who want to profit on our health. I think it might become more clear that compromise with these corporate ins. is not in our best interest after sicko comes out. But I'm not sure. Anyone who has read any health books knows the vicious FDA, food, and drug monopoly that keeps their interests above our own...

[glowing]

9. Ok,, I didn't find 1992, but I did find this

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html

it has a bunch of articles since 9/11 that I'm sure can be used either for or against.

[Jim__]

16. Here's a link.

On this webpage, the first story is titled: LOS ANGELES RACIAL TERRORISM.

At the end of that article, there is this: Taken from the Ron Paul Political Report, 1120 NASA Blvd., Suite 104,
Houston, TX 77058 for $50 per year. Call 1-800-766-7285.

LINK

I can't swear that this is the article that all the quotes are taken from; but I'm going to try to verify that.


I checked - that article does contain all the quotes cited at the beginning. So, the context doesn't seem to make the quotes appear any "better".

[MrPrax]

10. I think your misguided...

If Ron Paul is getting any praise it's because as far as the war and the Constitution is concerned, he is the ONLY fucking one out of 20 people!! that even mentions it.

We already KNOW he's a rightwing asshole -- but then again what does being silent on such issues do to the OTHER 20 fuckers that don't even seem to be on the same page as nearly 70% of Americans.

Why not tackle something tough about the democratic campaign instead of telling us that Ron Paul is a racist libertarian jerk-off who happens to be the only one that is making sense.

[madrchsod]

11. that`s he`s the darling of some stormfront members

"............Paul also wrote that although "we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."

and of course the rest of his racist stereotypes...

i was taken to task here because i said he was an anti-semite and racist.... i guess i was`t that far off.

[TwilightGardener]

12. Valid points. Thank you for the reality check. Aside from the war,

I have been dumbfounded by the love for this guy on DU.

[glowing]

13. Only because I googled, and I promise last Paul post because

I like kucinich much better and I would rather campaign for him, but post on not funding Katrina: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul305.html

snip

Congress reacted to Katrina in typical Washington-knows-best fashion. It immediately appropriated over $60 billion with no planning or debate, mostly to show that government was “doing something.” Political grandstanding masqueraded as compassion. As with all rapid government expenditures, the money was spent badly. Every member of Congress must have known that throwing $50 billion at FEMA, the very agency that failed so badly to prepare for Katrina, would not turn out well.

All federal aid for Katrina should have been distributed as directly as possible to local communities, rather than through wasteful middlemen like FEMA and Homeland Security. Considering the demonstrated ineptitude of government at both the federal and state level in this disaster, the people affected by the hurricane and subsequent flood no doubt would have been better off if relief money simply was sent directly to them or to community organizations dedicated to clean-up and reconstruction

snip


So it seems he thought about the vote and our money, not that aid should not be spent... just not sent to FEMA.

I take a lot of these little snippets about anyone of these candidates with a grain of salt. They are in a race and anyone will use anything against anyone, even out of context. Now that I read what he thought should have happened with the money, I know most of us who were shocked and appalled at the inaction, would agree. I think if the local communities had the money, they would have been back by now, not still lumbering 2yrs later through bueracratic b.s..

[DinahMoeHum]

15. When all is said and done, Ron Paul is still a Republican pig. . .

and right now, the worst Democrat among the current crop of POTUS candidates is a THOUSAND TIMES BETTER than the best Republican running.

:kick: