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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:55 PM
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Do all the candidates feel this way about staying in Iraq?
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/06/the_wars_end.php

From a Ted Koppel commentary on NPR

"I ran into an old source the other day who held a senior position at the Pentagon until his retirement. He occasionally briefs Senator Clinton on the situation in the Gulf. She told him that if she were elected president and then re-elected four years later she would still expect U.S. troops to be in Iraq at the end of her second term."

And from the blogger, a comment:

"I find that the tendency when I talk to people leaning in a Clintonish direction is that they express confidence, as Clinton herself does in the debates, that all of the Democrats will, if elected, move rapidly to end the war. If anything, I think the stronger argument for Clinton is the reverse -- that while she seems disinclined to really end the war, it's not clear that her main rivals are inclined to do so either."

My own feeling is that we are not going to leave there. I have the philosophy that the ones who supported it in 02 knew it was the first step in Bush's attempt to spread Democracy in the Middle East. It was a preemptive strike in that process.

So I don't think we will leave.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 07:00 PM
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1. The question is are we a Republic or an Empire?
Most of these candidates are Imperialists.

Even as they talk of bringing troops home from Iraq, they are saber rattling with Iran.
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pretty_lies Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 07:01 PM
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2. Well, Duh!
None of them will end the war. Not a single one of the frontrunners. (Paul and Kucinich would, and possibly Richardson.)

Defeat will happen, inch by inch, RPG by RPG, bomb by bomb, death by death, in the sands of Iraq. By military defeat in our Mesopotamian nightmare.

That's how this will end. Not by politics but by bullets and logistics.

Isolate, concentrate and annihilate.

I give it about ten years, ten thousand US dead, and three to five million Arab dead.

Think it's bad now?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 07:03 PM
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3. Kucinich, Gravel and Edwards would not agree with that statement. or that way of
thinking.
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pretty_lies Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 07:13 PM
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4. Edwards Favours A "Residual Force"
So he is not going to end it either.
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