Bill Clinton: Al Gore Could Enter Presidential Race (paraphrase)

[Bread and Circus]

http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID=%7B2E4604BD-F68B-4B44-99CB-F72CF7D8EDE0%7D&language=EN

Bill Clinton: Al Gore to Enter Presidential Race

Washington, Jun 13 (Prensa Latina) Former US President Bill Clinton said that his friend and running mate, Al Gore, will enter the Democratic race for the White House, The New York Post reported on Wednesday...

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I hadn't seen this posted elsewhere here so I thought I'd add it. Delete if this is a dupe.

I sure hope it's true though. I'm 100% behind Gore. Gore/Obama, Gore/Edwards, or Gore/Clark would make me one happy person.

Ok.... here's a link that is interesting, because this is the primary source - I just found it...

http://www.ostroyreport.blogspot.com/

"When I found myself literally standing next to a surprisingly unengaged Clinton as we were about to watch an Air America promotional video on Green's large-screen television, I leaned over and asked him "Do you think Gore's going to run?" With his arms crossed and one hand resting on his chin in a true Clintonesque pose, he leaned into me and replied, "I don't know, he could. Someone's got to fizzle. If someone fizzles, then yeah he could enter the race. He's got plenty of money, his own money, to do it." He then agreed when I asked if having that kind of personal wealth could mean Gore would be able to wait until the last stages of the campaign before he'd enter the race. I wanted to ask him about that "fizzling" thing--was he referring to his wife Hillary's chief rival Sen. Barack Obama or was he also allowing that as a possibility for Hillary herself?--but the crowd absorbed him. I was lucky to have had as much face time with him as I did."

So, it seems like just speculation. It's an interesting interchange. It definitely got spun in the few links I found.

I have to disclose that I really, really want Gore to run and I really, really fear a Hillary Clinton nomination. I think Hillary Clinton could win it all, but I don't really like her and I don't think she'd offer a fresh change of course.

[onehandle]

1. Bull. nt

[tavalon]

33. Bull?

Care to elaborate.

[onehandle]

47. The poster's original subject was "Bill Clinton: Al Gore to Enter Presidential Race"

Which is the actual title of the article at the link.

The poster changed the subject.

[ElizabethDC]

2. In the actual quote, he says Gore "could" enter the race

From the link in the OP:

"Someone's got to fizzle," Clinton said. "If someone fizzles, then yeah, he could enter the race. He's got plenty of money, his own money, to do it."


Personally, I don't think Clinton has any inside info on this, I think he's just speculating.

[Alamom]

8. Bill has made this comment for months.....it's a possibility and everyone knows it. eom

edsp

[jtrockville]

3. I like Gore

My best-case scenario:

Gore/Edwards 2009-2016
Edwards/Obama 2017-2024
Obama/?next rising star 2025-2032

We should be back on track by then.

[BrklynLiberal]

10. from your keyboard to God's ears.

[rosesaylavee]

4. While I think that Gore will enter the race this fall, the fact that

Big Dawg is talking about it now can only be an advantage to Hillary. Or so my convoluted thinking goes.

[blm]

5. TeamClinton WANTS the media to step up their attacks on Gore because they won't

be able to do it themselves. Not again. Too many know now how they undermine other Democrats.


This talk by historian Douglas Brinkley occurred in April 2004:


http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354


Whom does the biographer think his subject will pick as a running mate? Not Hillary Rodham Clinton. "There's really two different Democratic parties right now: there's the Clintons and Terry McAuliffe and the DNC and then there's the Kerry upstarts. John Kerry had one of the great advantages in life by being considered to get the nomination in December. He watched every Democrat in the country flee from him, and the Clintons really stick the knife in his back a bunch of times, so he's able to really see who was loyal to him and who wasn't. That's a very useful thing in life."




http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward



Did Carville Tip Bush Off to Kerry Strategy (Woodward)

By M.J. Rosenberg |

I just came across a troubling incident that Bob Woodward reports in his new book. Very troubling.
On page 344, Woodward describes the doings at the White House in the early morning hours of Wednesday, the day after the '04 election.

Apparently, Kerry had decided not to concede. There were 250,000 outstanding ballots in Ohio.

So Kerry decides to fight. In fact, he considers going to Ohio to camp out with his voters until there is a recount. This is the last thing the White House needs, especially after Florida 2000.

So what happened?

James Carville gets on the phone with his wife, Mary Matalin, who is at the White House with Bush.

"Carville told her he had some inside news. The Kerry campaign was going to challenge the provisional ballots in Ohio -- perhaps up to 250,000 of them. 'I don't agree with it, Carville said. I'm just telling you that's what they're talking about.'

"Matalin went to Cheney to report...You better tell the President Cheney told her."

Matalin does, advising Bush that "somebody in authority needed to get in touch with J. Kenneth Blackwell, the Republican Secretary of State in Ohio who would be in charge of any challenge to the provisional votes." An SOS goes out to Blackwell.
>>>>>>>>




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg




Wonder why?


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

[rosesaylavee]

19. Thanks for articulating my fears so well.

Bill Clinton does not EVER talk off the cuff. They are trying to pre-empt whatever strategy Gore is working right now... Hope they keep getting their info from that worthless sack of dooo, Donna Brazille.

And speaking of yesterdays consultants turned waste of skin today, Carville needs to just join Mary and the neocons openly. I always wondered how that pair could share a life and not share ideals and dreams. Guess my gut was trying to tell me something. Carville IS a snake.

[blm]

40. It hurts to have seen this go down, but I prefer to stay angry over stay hurting by

the betrayal of those who I worked to defend nearly every day for 12 years.

[rosesaylavee]

45. Agree to a point.

I assume you mean the Clintons. If I stay angry, it wears me out. I have made a note of how they behave and act in the world. And in general, I don't trust either of them though I will vote for her if she is the nominee.

And as for defending Bill, I had to work on a project with that mental midget Jonah Goldberg the year of the Lewinski scandal. Didn't like him at all and didn't like that I was defending a liar to him.

I will say this - his lie didn't kill a few hundred thousand people and send our country into near bankruptcy. However, compared to who we have had in that position in my lifetime, Bill was a fantastic President.

[Name removed]

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[rosesaylavee]

49. I was not aware of this.

Can you elaborate? What secrecy of Bush2? If he did cover for the old man that would explain his friendship with him now.

[blm]

51. Read the consortiumnews link posted in my original reply to you.

Parry explains how Clinton had no interest in pursuing the outstanding matters left to his administration in 1993.

And also bear in mind that CIA drugrunning revelations came out in 1996, and the story was denied, downplayed and obstructed by the administration in power then. That story should have reopened IranContra and put BushInc in jail for dumping all that cheap Contra-cocaine into black communities all over the country, exploding the crack cocaine epidemic.

[rosesaylavee]

52. Thank you for pointing that out for me.

Will read it when I get a chance later...

[CTD]

6. The caliber of writing at that site calls into question the veracity of the claim

And the substantive quotes do not add anything beyond what we already know - Gore *might* enter the race.


Duh.

[Bread and Circus]

15. I'm not gonna defend the site... but what's interesting is...

that I found similar articles earlier while I was at work (but I when I couldn't post) but I can't find them now. I think this particular link is a copy of information found elsewhere. There's more detail to it than at this link. When his statements are taken in detail, it sounds much less for sure.

Anyway, I still have my fingers crossed.

[RestoreGore]

34. The entire blog is nothing but a sound bite drowning in hype and speculation

Seems not only Republicans assault reason.

[DURHAM D]

7. Given the negative numbers for the Dem Congress

if Al gets in he should pick a governor and run as anti-DC. My choice - the Governor of Kansas.

[Jack109]

17. What?

Al Gore's been out of office for 6 years or so, but there's no way he can run as an outsider. He spent 25 years in Congress and 8 years as the VP.

[DURHAM D]

20. Wow Jack - you were a virgin

Also, I disagree - 6 is long enough.

[The Wielding Truth]

25. HI Jack! Can"t pass that one up. Welcome to DU!

[Uncle Joe]

55. Actually it was

sixteen years in Congress, eight as Representative, eight as Senator and then eight as Vice-President. It seems eight is Al Gore's number.

[MonkeyFunk]

9. The article is just wrong...

Bill Clinton said no such thing.

[durrrty libby]

11. I love Gore but Hillary has been in the trenches, duking it out

It would take a lot of convincing from Gore to make me switch to him

[blm]

27. What trenches has she been duking it out the last 7years? What issue did she lead on

the last 7years? What opposition to Bush's policies did she stick her neck out to lead on or lead a filibuster or lead a campaign against the last 7years?

Can you elaborate or give details about all the duking it out that she's been doing the last 7years?

[durrrty libby]

30. Did you just wake up from a coma? She has been in the senate,

Gore has been off doing his thing

Filibuster? That is important to you..good grief

[blm]

37. She has been in the senate leading on WHAT issue? You said she's been duking it out, so

give us details about what issues she's been opposing Bush and hitting him on and taking the hits for it - after all, that's what 'duking it out means.

Or do you mean she and her team have been busy running for 2008 all these years that Gore has not?

This talk by historian Douglas Brinkley occurred in April 2004:


http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354


Whom does the biographer think his subject will pick as a running mate? Not Hillary Rodham Clinton. "There's really two different Democratic parties right now: there's the Clintons and Terry McAuliffe and the DNC and then there's the Kerry upstarts. John Kerry had one of the great advantages in life by being considered to get the nomination in December. He watched every Democrat in the country flee from him, and the Clintons really stick the knife in his back a bunch of times, so he's able to really see who was loyal to him and who wasn't. That's a very useful thing in life."




http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward



Did Carville Tip Bush Off to Kerry Strategy (Woodward)

By M.J. Rosenberg |

I just came across a troubling incident that Bob Woodward reports in his new book. Very troubling.
On page 344, Woodward describes the doings at the White House in the early morning hours of Wednesday, the day after the '04 election.

Apparently, Kerry had decided not to concede. There were 250,000 outstanding ballots in Ohio.

So Kerry decides to fight. In fact, he considers going to Ohio to camp out with his voters until there is a recount. This is the last thing the White House needs, especially after Florida 2000.

So what happened?

James Carville gets on the phone with his wife, Mary Matalin, who is at the White House with Bush.

"Carville told her he had some inside news. The Kerry campaign was going to challenge the provisional ballots in Ohio -- perhaps up to 250,000 of them. 'I don't agree with it, Carville said. I'm just telling you that's what they're talking about.'

"Matalin went to Cheney to report...You better tell the President Cheney told her."

Matalin does, advising Bush that "somebody in authority needed to get in touch with J. Kenneth Blackwell, the Republican Secretary of State in Ohio who would be in charge of any challenge to the provisional votes." An SOS goes out to Blackwell.
>>>>>>>>




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg




Wonder why?


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

[Guaranteed]

42. She hasn't done jack. nt

[hippiechick]

12. I'm not of the opinion that they're the closest of confidantes ...

... especially since Bill's significant other is in the running at the moment.


:shrug:

[Colobo]

13. Clinton is very intelligent

He's trying to keep potential donors away from Obama.

[electron_blue]

16. yeah, good point.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

18. Exactly.

This is an attempt to mitigate the thrashing the fatcat, establishment candidate will take from Obama after this quarter...

[flpoljunkie]

35. I think you've got it, Katzenkavalier.

[blm]

43. A two-fer. Keep money from Obama and encourage press to dump on Gore.

Bill must think that Gore doesn't get enough crap from the press.

[Samantha]

58. I think that is it exactly

If Gore definitely said he will not run, in the "I have zero interest" vein, Obama's numbers would soar. I believe the Clinton camp supports the Gore possibility for exactly that reason. She took a page from the Bush* 2000 playback, and has been playing the "my nomination is inevitable" card. The potential of a Gore candidacy helps buttress that position, detracting from potential Obama support.

Obama is closer to being anti-war than Edwards can claim (since Edwards voted for the authorization). It is my gut feeling the anti-war camp would immediately gravitate to Obama if a Gore candidacy were taken completely off the 2008 table.

Clinton volunteered on a Larry King interview a few months ago that Gore might enter the race, and when he brought that subject up, I immediately wondered why, when Hillary was in. That is the answer that immediately came to me, and I return to it whenever there's another Bill Clinton suggestion Gore might run....

[BootinUp]

14. GTFO!

I'll need to see a reliable source.

[BootinUp]

21. I think you should change your thread title.

It was clearly just speculation and the word "Could" seems kinda critical.

[Bread and Circus]

23. It's the title of the link I had found to post, it is misleading so I think

I will change it. thanks.

[illinoisprogressive]

22. none of the 3 are fizzling. there is a long summer in front of all and a long time to go

[Bread and Circus]

24. btw, if Gore doesn't run, Obama is my man and we already gave Obama $

[Labors of Hercules]

31. How would you feel if Obama stepped aside to support Gore, then got the VP nod??? n/t

[Labors of Hercules]

26. At the risk of enflaming Obama supporters...

Against the HRC power machine, I think Ostroy has it partially right, I think if Obama hasn't pulled to a closer margin by crunch time, he could make a decision to throttle down and allow Gore to step in, knowing that Gore would be his best ticket into the White House. I think the two of them, playing off both of their latent successes, would indeed be an amazing ticket. Brilliant.

[Colobo]

28. For some reason, I don't think we have seen Obama in real campaign mode yet

I'm waiting to see what he plans to do with all the cash he's getting...

[Labors of Hercules]

29. It will be interesting to see... I want Obama to win over Hillary, that's for damn sure...

But still, to see Obama become Vice President in a Gore presidency would be a perfect win/win and almost guarantee him the White House in 2016.

[ronnykmarshall]

38. That would be AMAZING.

and I'm for Hillary.

It would be a tough choice for me in Al got into the race.

My parents are both for Hillary, but I think they would vote for Gore if he got in the race.

[jefferson_dem]

39. I'm an avid Obama supporter and find that scenario rather tasty.

:bounce:

That being said, Obama's my guy even if Al gets in...unless and until such "plan" is in place.

[RestoreGore]

32. Looks like his book won't change much

Speculation still seems to be more popular than reason.

[Apollo11]

36. Bill Clinton said a similar thing on CNN in April

Bill Clinton on CNN - Larry King Live - 19 April 2007

B. CLINTON: The good news about this primary, for me as a Democrat who has been following this for 40 years now, is that nobody has to vote against anybody.

I mean, you've got a big field of people. If you look at the three that aren't doing well in the polls now -- Governor Richardson, Senator Biden, Senator Dodd -- these people have rendered extraordinary service to our country and they are devoted public servants. They're highly intelligent. They're gifted people and they deserve to be seriously listened to.

And then you've got -- and you've Senator Edwards doing well. You've got Senator Obama doing well. You've got the prospect that Vice President Gore might run.

We've got a good field. No one has to vote against anybody. And that means that people are free to vote for the person who is most likely to be the best president.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0704/19/lkl.01.html

I'm sure Hillary appreciates her husband talking up all the other candidates! ;)


Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :patriot:

Visit Al's site www.algore.com and read his blog http://blog.algore.com

Get ready for Live Earth on 7/7/07: www.liveearth.org

Sign the petitions at www.algore.org and www.draftgore.com

:kick:

[blm]

41. This was Bill's slam at the 2004 field - if Hillary was so good they would've run her in 2004, but

they didn't - because they WOULDN'T run against BushInc as they supported him too closely on his military strategies on terrorism and Iraq.

[rinsd]

44. Someone call the Whaaaaambulance

[ElizabethDC]

48. When Hillary ran for the Senate in 2000, she pledged to serve her entire 6-year term

she kept her promise. I don't think it has anything to do with "BushInc." (She made no such promises in her recent campaign.)

[blm]

53. I think it has PLENTY to do with BushInc and the Clintons' refusal to oppose them in any significant

way over the years. Ever wonder why they never used their highly touted team to undermine Bush the last 7 years while they had no such hesitation to undermine Kerry?



This talk by historian Douglas Brinkley occurred in April 2004:


http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354


Whom does the biographer think his subject will pick as a running mate? Not Hillary Rodham Clinton. "There's really two different Democratic parties right now: there's the Clintons and Terry McAuliffe and the DNC and then there's the Kerry upstarts. John Kerry had one of the great advantages in life by being considered to get the nomination in December. He watched every Democrat in the country flee from him, and the Clintons really stick the knife in his back a bunch of times, so he's able to really see who was loyal to him and who wasn't. That's a very useful thing in life."




http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward



Did Carville Tip Bush Off to Kerry Strategy (Woodward)

By M.J. Rosenberg |

I just came across a troubling incident that Bob Woodward reports in his new book. Very troubling.
On page 344, Woodward describes the doings at the White House in the early morning hours of Wednesday, the day after the '04 election.

Apparently, Kerry had decided not to concede. There were 250,000 outstanding ballots in Ohio.

So Kerry decides to fight. In fact, he considers going to Ohio to camp out with his voters until there is a recount. This is the last thing the White House needs, especially after Florida 2000.

So what happened?

James Carville gets on the phone with his wife, Mary Matalin, who is at the White House with Bush.

"Carville told her he had some inside news. The Kerry campaign was going to challenge the provisional ballots in Ohio -- perhaps up to 250,000 of them. 'I don't agree with it, Carville said. I'm just telling you that's what they're talking about.'

"Matalin went to Cheney to report...You better tell the President Cheney told her."

Matalin does, advising Bush that "somebody in authority needed to get in touch with J. Kenneth Blackwell, the Republican Secretary of State in Ohio who would be in charge of any challenge to the provisional votes." An SOS goes out to Blackwell.
>>>>>>>>




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg




Wonder why?


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

[rinsd]

54. LOL, now you're spamming it!

[blm]

56. It happens to be an APPROPRIATE reply to the post, and also a legitimate question

about what wing of the Democratic party should prevail in the future and WHY it is important to our democracy.

Are you saying that you don't care what Democrat takes office if you knew one wouldn't hold BushInc accountable and another would?

[marlakay]

50. Maybe they want Gore to start getting attacks now

like Hillary has been getting for months now. Figure they can get him squashed before he starts. But it won't work. A good portion of America is angry they didn't see who Al was the first time and regrets how they didn't fight harder for him.

I am one of those. We voted for Al but I can't say I fought all that hard. I thought it would be a easy take. I thought Bush was a daddys boy.

[BringBigDogBack]

57. My fear with Hillary.....

is that the fundies are dirty bastards.... And as much as they hate HRC, they will not allow her (us) to get the last laugh. If Hillary gets elected, we can all but assure ourselves 8 years of Jeb afterwards.... It's the only play those fucks would have left. And we know how dirty they are....

I'm not so sure this country can withstand another 8 years of ClintonBush (been a Clinton or a Bush on every ballot since '80), but I'm fully certain it won't make it through TWO MORE Bush's and Clintons.



Dynasty. :puke: Jeb. :puke: