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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:34 PM
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I want the opportunity to vote for Al Gore in 2008.
Edited on Wed Jun-13-07 09:57 PM by Labors of Hercules
I want to walk into that voting booth and check his name on my ballot. I want to know that the majority will finally have our say, and that my vote was one of millions that restored statesmanship to the Presidency, brought about real and lasting benefits for the world, and ultimately turned the tide of our own destruction.

We need the right person to take the helm and turn this ship around, and that person was, and still is, Al Gore.

:patriot:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:44 PM
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1. yes. nt
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:47 PM
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2. I was thinking the other night of 2000.
I think if the gop didn't go after Clinton on the Monica thing, Gore would have wiped Bush up.
With them going after Clinton, who embarassed and offended so many democrats, they took away the opportunity of the dems to punish clinton for this. The voting people. We would have let him know how much we were angry. But, the gop took that away and we were forced instead to defend Clinton and stand by him.
robbed of this, I think Gore got the back hand of the anger that couldn't be expressed toward Clinton.
what do you think?
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:50 PM
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3. I think you're right to an extent
but I also think the gop cheated mightily, disenfranchised voters and used every filthy trick in the book, including getting the Supremes to bypass the will of the People to appoint that piece of crap, *. Al won, we all know it.

Run Al Run, Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 10:11 PM
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7. His approval rating when he left office says other than what you posted.
Gores biggest mistake was not leaning on Clinton, and thats a fact.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 10:17 PM
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8. Hindsight. But I think his biggest mistake was listening to his campaign strategists...
A mistake that he's already gotten over.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 10:18 PM
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9. It wasn't hindsight responding to post #2.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 10:20 PM
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11. I meant we recognized in hindsight...
that he could have leaned more on Clinton during the campaign.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 10:22 PM
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12. My mistake I apologize.
Don't get me wrong I love Gore, ALways have and always will.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 04:28 AM
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14. That's your opinion. Not necessarily a fact.
Most people would agree that Bill Clinton's misbehavior with a vulnerable young star-struck intern was unacceptable.

Everyone knows that Clinton - as CEO of the Whitehouse - was in complete control of the situation.

Not only that - he tried to cover it up by making misleading statements.

As Vice-President, Al Gore had no choice except to stand beside Clinton at that time.

But Clinton's actions must have affected the public's perceptions of the Clinton-Gore Administration.

That's almost certainly the main reason why Al Gore picked Joe Lieberman as his running mate.

Lieberman was one of the first (then Democratic) Senators to publicly condemn Clinton's misbehavior.

I believe Bu$h did get traction with his promise to restore integrity to the office of the Presidency.

You cannot say for certain that the Lewinsky Scandal did not hurt Al Gore in 2000.

Maybe it was one of the reasons why Bu$h started out with a 20-point lead in the polls?

But Gore led a strong campaign and came back to win the popular vote on election day.

We know that Bill Clinton never received more than 47.4 million votes.

Whereas Al Gore received at least 51 million votes (the ones they counted).

Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :patriot:

Visit Al's site www.algore.com and read his blog http://blog.algore.com

Get ready for Live Earth on 7/7/07: www.liveearth.org

Sign the petitions at www.algore.org and www.draftgore.com

:kick:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 05:40 AM
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15. It's not just my opinion and yes it is fact weather you want to admit it or not.
The specter of Bill Clinton hung over both major parties during this past presidential contest. His foibles while in office hurt the Democrats, while the unsuccessful attempts to thwart and even impeach him left many voters with bitter feelings toward the Republican Party.

Democratic candidate and Clinton’s Vice President Al Gore wanted to run as his "own man," free of the negatives associated with Clinton’s tenure as president. So he ran a distinctly Clinton-free campaign with Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman at his side.

Republicans learned the hard way in several fights that Clinton was not easy to best in a political contest. In the budget battle of 1995, the Republican-controlled Congress walked out of D.C. to force the issue of who really governed, only to find that they were blamed for the governmental impasse. They impeached Clinton in the U.S. House, only to lose the vote to convict in the U.S. Senate. They tried to wrap Clinton misdeeds around the necks of other Democratic candidates in 1998, only to see the Democrats pick up seats in the House. This led to one of their most outspoken leaders, House Speaker Newt Gingrich, resigning and leaving the D.C. battleground. Hence, George W. Bush’s campaign was noticeably devoid of an anti-Clinton tone.

The Clinton Factor
President Clinton was an important factor in the 2000 election. Why? Because of his positive performance as president. He entered the last three months of his eight-year tenure with job approval ratings equal to the other two post-World War II presidents who served two full terms.

http://www.pollingreport.com/beyle.htm
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:39 AM
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18. How to spot an opinion
William769 posted: "Gores biggest mistake was not leaning on Clinton, and thats a fact."

Are you saying there are no other valid opinions possible about what was Gore's biggest mistake?

Some might say that Gore's biggest mistake was picking Joe Lieberman as his running mate.

There must have been other mistakes - like that uncomfortably long kiss he gave Tipper.

I could say that his biggest mistake was walking over towards Bu$h during a televised debate.

I mean Bu$h just looked over and laughed - like - "are you trying to intimidate me?" :eyes:

Gore did not come across very well during that particular debate - in my opinion.

But I am happy to admit - it's just my opinion - and that's a fact!! :)
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 12:55 PM
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23. Well said! n/t
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 01:27 PM
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25. I think it was the media playing the gop's game
Like the 2004 election cycle, the media and the republicans set the script they wanted to follow in 2000. They love is the "Dems are immoral" themes. First they look for hints of sexual transgressions (see: Clinton, the Kennedys, Gary Hart, they tried it with Kerry but the intern shot it down). When that doesn't work they go after their morality (Dukakis wouldn't execute someone who raped his wife and Gore was complicit in the so-called Clinton scandals and therefore Gore is a liar).

The media and the republicans then set about to de-humanize the people. Clinton was a sex manaic and Gore was a perpetual liar.

Check out this excerpt from the OMBUDSMAN of the Washington Post in a 2004 article (from the dailyhowler.com):

On March 5, 2000, E. R. Shipp described— to a T— the way the press was reporting the race. We ourselves had long described the way the corps would "novelize news"— would shape facts to fit a preconceived, pleasing story. To Shipp, then the Washington Post’s ombudsman, it was like her paper was scripting a drama:

SHIPP: (R)eaders react— sometimes in a nonpartisan way, more often not— to roles that The Post seems to have assigned to their actors in this unfolding political drama. Gore is the guy in search of an identity; Bradley is the Zen-like intellectual in search of a political strategy; McCain is the war hero who speaks off the cuff and is, thus, a "maverick"; and Bush is a lightweight with a famous name...As a result of this approach, some candidates are whipping boys; other seem to get a free pass.

In this column— the most righteous work from the mainstream press corps all year— Shipp was criticizing Ceci Connolly’s hapless "Love Canal" reports, which were written in December, 1999. But Shipp perfectly nailed the general process by which the press was inventing the news. In Shipp’s view, the Post wasn’t really reporting what happened; the paper instead had laid out a "drama," and was bending the news to fit its preconceived story. No one else, throughout this election, did such a good job of describing the way the mainstream press throws truth away in order to tell preferred tales.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/h052901_1.shtmll
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 04:40 PM
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31. But he won.
He DID wipe Bush up.
Maybe not by as huge a margin as we would've liked; but he did.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:55 PM
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4. I totally agree. Recommended.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 10:06 PM
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5. Run, Al, run
I had a dream a couple of nights ago that I met him and asked him to run. He said "Okay." I hope my dream comes true! I also invited him to YearlyKos and he said he'd be there.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 10:18 PM
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10. I hope your dream comes true too! n/t
:hi:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:48 AM
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17. LOL!! "Okay!"
If only it were that simple.

:hi: Sharon. Saw your belated post in KOEB this morning. Thanks!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:29 AM
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19. You're welcome, Clark! If only it WERE that simple.
Edited on Thu Jun-14-07 10:30 AM by SharonRB
Hannah is adorable.

:hi:

I hope I get a chance to meet Wes at YearlyKos.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 01:53 PM
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27. Wes is amazing.
Once you meet him once, he'll know you every time you run across him again. Hubby said it was a well-known fact amongst the rank and file that Gen. Clark had a photographic memory.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 10:07 PM
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6. That will happen if Gore decides to run.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 11:28 PM
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13. I'll say it again, for the primaries, if he doesn't run, we should write his name in;
The problems we face now demand greater considerations than what one person wants, even if that one person is Al Gore himself.

Or to put it another way: If he really doesn't want to run, he should have thought of that before he made so made people WANT him to run.
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:45 AM
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16. What an EXCELLENT idea!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:29 AM
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20. Here's my reasoning why this won't work
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:57 AM
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21. Well,
In Greek Mythology, Hercules did free Prometheus.:patriot:

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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 12:59 PM
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24. Joe, how do you pack so much meaning in one little phrase?
Fantastic. Wow. *shakes head*
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 02:00 PM
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28. I find meaning where I can.
:rofl:
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 11:47 AM
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22. write him in
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 01:48 PM
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26. If Gore wants the job he will tell us
Edited on Thu Jun-14-07 01:49 PM by Tom Rinaldo
If we want him to want the job we should keep telling him. But by the time the primaries are upon us, if Al has chosen not to throw his hat in the ring by then I would respect that. Furthermore so would a lot of other people who like Al Gore, which would make it really really hard for him as a non candidate to win as a write in. At that point I and many others would rather influence the primary process by helping who ever the best of those who are then running actually win.

NOW is the time for those who want Al Gore to declare to pull out all the stops to draft him if you feel strongly enough. I feel that strongly about Wes Clark, but Al Gore is head and shoulders and chest and thighs above all of the rest of the field far as I'm concerned. I know there are always a few Clark supporters who won't support Gore, and the other way around, but we have much in common. We want a true leader to vote for, one who has proved himself, and fought hard for issues that matter even if no one else will. Someone with real experience on the world stage at a time when that really matters, who strongly embraces progressive values and will work to end current military conflicts and prevent new ones. Someonw like Al Gore, but also Wes Clark, who gets how dangerous global warming really is.

I would support a "Draft a Real Leader" movement and urge both/either/or Al Gore and Wes Clark to enter the race. Together supporters of both men and other disatisfied Democrats can strongly make the case for why our current choices are so insufficient.

But regardless of how you feel about Wes Clark, the only way Al Gore has a chance to win the Democratic nomination is if he says he wants it. That is the starting and ending point of phase one of making Gore President, for anyone who desires to see that happen.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 02:11 PM
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29. You're absolutely right in what you say about Gore
A write-in will never work.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 03:34 PM
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30. You aren't the only one
signed,

Another Screeching Cheerleader for Gore
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