leftyladyfrommo
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Sat Jun-16-07 09:59 AM
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If Harry Reid and Nancy aren't doing a good job - who would be better? |
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I am beginning to feel like they should be replaced with people who can do a better job.
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:01 AM
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1. I agree. Unfortunately I don't know who would be the best replacements |
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for these to appeasers. I guess someone who would promise not to cut any 'secret' deals with this administration.
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Sat Jun-16-07 12:52 PM
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31. I think they're doing very well. They hold very difficult jobs are moving the agenda well. |
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Yes, it's slow and not always exactly what I'd like, but it's an enormous improvement over the last 22 years.
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:01 AM
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2. someone who is able to do a good job and is not afraid of george w bush? nt |
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:05 AM
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10. B - I - N - G - O ! ! ! |
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Someone who is not afraid of Bush would be nice.
Guts count bigtime, in my book.
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:06 AM
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12. Schumer? I like him. n/t |
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:32 AM
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22. Too close in policy to Rham Emmanuel and the DLC for my tastes... |
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and he loves to kiss corporate ass to get corporate $$$ to look out for the little guy consistently.
Just my opinion.
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Sat Jun-16-07 01:24 PM
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32. Yep, someone not afraid of the bush** admin and who is not primarily |
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interested in that corporate campaign money.
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:01 AM
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3. Barbara Boxer or Ted Kennedy in the Senate, and John Conyers in the House |
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Edited on Sat Jun-16-07 10:02 AM by Totally Committed
Wouldn't THAT make the Right go nuts? LOL!
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:02 AM
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5. I really like Ted Kennedy. |
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Don;t know much about Boxer.
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:03 AM
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7. Teddy has been my Senator forever, and yes... he has foibles, |
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Edited on Sat Jun-16-07 10:03 AM by Totally Committed
but, by and large, he has been a GREAT Senator for this State.
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:03 AM
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8. He's not afraid of a fight. n/t |
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:07 AM
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14. Well, it would also not please the conservative wing of the Democratic Party, either |
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The problem is, the Speaker and Leader aren't elected by US. They're elected by the members of the House and Senate, to consolidate and articulate their views.
These sorts of complaints are useless. IMO. It's like griping about who is the President of the Garden Club, just because you buy their petunias and attend their flower shows.
We didn't elect them.
If you want a new leader/Speaker, you need to speak to your rep and Senators--THEY voted for them.
I'll stick with Reid and Pelosi, myself.
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:02 AM
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4. Feingold for one and John Conyers maybe. |
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:02 AM
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6. How about Leahy? He has guts. n/t |
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:07 AM
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15. I am hearing some names I like. |
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Reid talks a good game but folds like a folding chair when the time comes.
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:04 AM
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9. Dennis Kucinich! He will stand up to * and speaks the plain truth. |
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:05 AM
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11. That's a good idea. He would be good. But is he too far from |
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:11 AM
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17. I think it is more important what they stand for rather than where the stand. |
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Left, right, center - they are just labels.
Pelosi and Reid stand with Bush too often. So does Kennedy on immigration.
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:06 AM
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13. What has been so wrong with Pelosi? |
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She's by far the most effective Democratic leader in decades and has kept the party caucus more unified than even the Republicans did between '95 and '06.
Yes, the Iraq supplemental was deeply disappointing, but she was an ally on this (she voted against the supplemental, as did the majority of House Democrats).
The simple truth is we do not have the votes to end this war; we have nothing approaching a veto-proof majority and there's no indication that the Republicans will buckle.
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:07 AM
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16. I say John Murtha and either Feingold or Lieghy... eom. ww |
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:12 AM
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18. Sheila Jackson Lee and Barbara Boxer or Russ Feingold |
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:20 AM
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19. I agree on Kennedy. He has a safe seat so he doesn't have to |
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worry about keeping his "voters" happy along with leading the Senate. The other thing I think we're missing here is who is the whip?
If you remember, Hastert was sure no firehouse of thoughts and ideas, but behind the scenes, the other Pub leaders in the Senate whipped, beat, and bribed their other members into line. And of course no one can forget Tom Delay! Always with the smail on camera, but I swear, he carried a death needle in his pocket to keep all the Pubs in line and on track!
I don't like the Pub tactics, bur even more than the "leaders" in the Hosue & Senate, the Dems need some kick ass people hearding on the floor!!!!
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:30 AM
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20. Maybe someone like BabyBitch- you know a unitary gov. |
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Edited on Sat Jun-16-07 10:33 AM by TexasProgresive
a Tom Delay or Newt Gingrinch but on the left- I think that's what you're looking for- but count me out.
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:32 AM
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21. I could do a better job, unfortunatley, I am not mega-rich or connected |
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so, I'll have to pander to the fools.
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:34 AM
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23. a leader who stops the passage of awful bills the republicans passed. Oh hey they are doing fine! |
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Seriously what do people actually expect? Healthcare reform? Veto. Pullout of troops? Veto. Oh yeah let's yank funding. Veto. Do it again. Veto. Do it again. Veto. Oh crap now the americans over there don't have food and water. Hey that will force bush to pull them out. Yeah because Bush gives a crap about that and won't just blame that lack of food and water on the dems refusing to support the troops.
Oh hey how about a bill to fix NCLB? Veto. the bankruptcy bill? Veto.
We do not have a veto proof majority. All we can expect them to do is to prevent passage of awful bills, refuse to renew the insane tax cuts. This is an OPPOSITION party right now. Until such time as we control the presidency or have a veto proof majority that is all we can be. We can stop awful appointments, investigate the abuses (which they are doing a great job of) and hope to actually make some decent compromises and more importantly POLITICAL gains such as the fact that we forced Republicans to go on record as still supporting this bullshit war which will cost them in the next election. Hopefully it will cost them both the presidency and any hope of regaining control of either the senate or the house.
Oh I know what was really being talked about. Impeachment. yeah that's realistic and useful. The moderates in the country right now would really love the democrats if we did that. they'd be so happy to see the political process devolve into that a mass of name calling, rhetoric and nastiness again. that will really help the democrats gain a useful ruling majority. good call. Oh and we don't have anywhere near the votes. not even close. anyone who thinks that just running through the process will somehow inflame the population and make them force their republican leaders to vote for impeachment are simply kidding themselves. The republican party would collapse. republican donors would abandon any republican senator or congressman who actually crossed party lines and their careers would be over. Anyone who thinks there are enough republicans who would actually vote their conscience in this situation is simply wrong.
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:42 AM
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24. I was out running with a friend this AM and we were talking about |
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the very same thing. How disappointing Reid and Pelosi have been. All the names mentioned have more guts than these two. I never expected much from Reid, but Pelosi has been a huge letdown.
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Sat Jun-16-07 11:01 AM
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in the Senate. Of course, I would prefer Kerry or Feingold.
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Sat Jun-16-07 11:36 AM
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28. Durbin would be perfect--he's a uniter, not a divider |
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he voted for the IWR, though. Everybody did except Feingold. And though I love Russ and agree with him most of the time, he's a guy that can get people furious, and maybe Senate Leader needs more finesse.
Durbin is chock full of finesse!
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Sat Jun-16-07 11:32 AM
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26. bottom line, the only ones with credibility are Feingold and Lee |
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everyone else voted out of fear for the IWR.
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Sat Jun-16-07 11:34 AM
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27. Leahy, Boxer, Durbin in that order for the Senate |
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Unfortunately for Harry Reid (and us, as long as he holds his current position), his entire demeanor smacks of being a follower, rather than a leader.
I'll stick with Pelosi in the House.
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Sat Jun-16-07 02:05 PM
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Reid was a poor choice to begin with and his record has only confirmed that he lacks the political fortitude to get the job done.
It would really behoove the Dems to find some way to ease him out gracefully before 2008.
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I wouldn't have the least bit of hesitancy to back Dorgan, as he would really be what would satisfy most Democratic voters, but not the corporations. I have watched him on C-span many times, and can only be envious of the people of his home state, who have a real senator representing their interest. I live in NC, where we have no representation, just corporate whores.
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