SurveyUSA 16 state gen election survey...Guiliani, Clinton, Bloomberg.. Hillary flips 4 Red States

[SaveElmer]

Interesting...

State Giuliani Clinton Bloomberg
Alabama 46 39 11
California 40 45 10
Iowa 37 42 11
Kansas 47 36 8
Kentucky 42 41 10
Massachusetts 37 47 9
Minnesota 37 48 7
Missouri 39 44 10
New Mexico 41 45 8
New York 32 49 15
Ohio 41 47 8
Oregon 38 44 11
Texas 48 34 10
Virginia 45 40 9
Washington 41 42 11
Wisconsin 40 44 10


Hillary wins California, Iowa, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Missouri, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Washington, and Wisconsin...flipping four previously red states...

Guiliani wins Alabama, Kansas, Kentucky, Texas, Virginia

Hillary within MoE in Kentucky (down 1), Virginia (down 5)...

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_update/

[jackbourassa]

1. Hillary leads by only 5 in California...

Shit we're fucked even worse than I thought. She doesn't poll above 50% in ANY BLUE STATE EITHER.

Maybe we all should start looking ahead to 2012, because it appears that these Clinton idiots are going force us to lose another one.

[SaveElmer]

2. Nice spin attempt...

Three way race...guess you didn't read the poll...

[jackbourassa]

3. Saveelmer, What's clear is...

That not all Republicans are happy with their choices for nominee. So they split between Gulliani and Bloomberg. I guess they don't realize that Bloomberg is even more liberal than Rudy.

This poll is stupid, and can be SPUN either way as you demonstrated. So get off your high horse. If it's good news that Hillary leads in four RED states by low single digits, it has to be equally upsetting that she leads in California by only 5. Because if we lose California, we lose period. That much is certain.

[SaveElmer]

4. Hardly...

I haven't looked at the crosstabs, but I am willing to bet the majority of Bloomberg supporters are independents...no reason to believe they would not split if Bloomberg does not run...

Hillary has been ahead by over 50% in other general election head to head polls in California...

The fact is, this poll, contrary to the meme Hillary detractors continue to push, is that Hillary will indeed be competitive in several red states, and stands an excellent chance of flipping several...

[Stevepol]

5. The polls are absolutely meaningless as long as the votes are counted on electronic machines

without verification. If somehow, and I'm praying this happens, we can get a fair vote (minimal dirty tricks and voter suppression) and a fair vote count in 08, the polls will have meaning and will almost certainly be confirmed at the polls. For now, these polls should be taken with a big grain of salt.

[KneelBeforeZod]

6. This poll is ridiculous ...

Look ... Hillary may be in the lead ... but this poll is ridiculous.

(1) I'd be SHOCKED if the 2008 Presidential Race left a three-party choice between Hillary, Giuliani and Bloomberg. What an irrelevant pairing of candidates. Fred Thompson looks more likely than Giuliani to get the Republican nomination (Thompson is polling tied or ahead of Giuliani in MANY cases, and he hasn't even declared yet). And, is Michael Bloomberg even running!?!?

(2) if you ADD the two Republican candidates together in this poll ... they are polling ahead in 13 of those states (as opposed to FIVE when you split the (R) vote). If even PART of the Bloomberg vote were to split to Giuliani, this poll would be meaningless.

The race is difficult to handicap right now ... but this poll is HUGELY misleading.

Z