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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:07 PM
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Schuster: Leave Gravel Alone, You Dipshit
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 06:12 PM by Laura PackYourBags
Mike Gravel, was just interviewed by Schuster on MSNBC. About the controversal videos.

First of all, these videos were done by art students and teachers. They approached
Mike and asked if they could do something creative. He said "sure."

They are all metaphors:

The first, he throws a rock into the water - which represents a normal citizen coming
out and making a huge rippling wave - like they thought his campaign might do.

The second, he gathers sticks and makes a fire - which represents gathering support
and making something powerful - fire.

These were not campaign ads - they were artistic impressions, composed and filmed by art students in San
Francisco. He will be putting them on his website, with an explanation.

David Schuster, who I used to like, acted like a jerk. No matter how many times
Gravel tried to explain - he just kept saying, "I don't get it."

Duh, David.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:11 PM
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1. I get the ripple metaphor but what's the two and a half minutes of staring about?
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 06:39 PM by Fridays Child
Maybe I'm not as bright as the average DUer but I just don't get that part. :shrug:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:13 PM
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3. You are right - they didn't explain that. Maybe just look at
my face and remember me?
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:50 PM
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8. I think maybe they wanted us to see him
kind of like the rock. At least that was my first impression watching it.

Here he is a politician who has been silent for some time and is now making quite the wave.

:shrug:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 07:02 PM
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9. Maybe, with the last name of Gravel, he represents lots of little populist rocks?
:shrug: ... ;)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:11 PM
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2. Gravel even felt sorry for Schuster's ignorance
Like I said in another thread - Schuster appeared like the old fart in the room. He was acting like he was proud of not understanding Gravel's explanation of the recent videos. Schuster was laughing and tut-tutting alone, as far as I'm concerned. If I was embarrassed for anyone it was for Schuster.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:18 PM
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4. sorry - I searched and didn't see another post on this
where is it ? GD?

You're right - it did make DS look bad. It was almost like - oops I had this "Gravel, you are an idiot script", thinking he could use it. But then, when Gravel had a perfect explanation for it all, he didn't know what to do. Couldn't ad lib - had to stick with his script. Oh, the worst part, for DS, when he kept jumping on him for having 3 takes. Big deal ! 3 Now, maybe if he said he had done 50 takes, maybe.

DS is kind of an odd bird. He was doing all the Fitzgerald Libby trial updates for HB and he could never just talk to Mathews - he only could talk in his reporting mode - not in a conversational mode.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:24 PM
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6. I replied to a heads up thread about Schuster sitting in for Tucker
I didn't start a thread with same topic as yours. Just replied to someone else. So sorry that I wasn't clear and gave you the wrong impression. :blush:
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:23 PM
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5. Mike Gravel is NOT crazy
I had the pleasure of his company back during the CA Democratic Convention in San Diego last April. We had a couple of drinks together and I thanked him for his service. He's witty and articulate. He knows what the media is trying to do. His only regret is staying out of the national discourse for a few years. Most of you are too young to remember Senator Gravels inspiring work in the Senate. In 1971 he waged a successful, five-month, one-man filibuster that forced the Nixon administration to cut a deal that effectively ended the military draft.

He was instrumental in the release of The Pentagon Papers. After The New York Times published portions of the leaked study, the Nixon administration moved to block any further publication of information and to punish any newspaper publisher who revealed the contents. Gravel insisted that his constituents had a right to know the truth behind the war and proceeded to read 4,100 pages of the 7,000 page document into the Congressional Record from the Floor of the U.S. Senate. The Supreme Court ultimately ruled that Senator Gravel did not have the right and responsibility to share official documents with his constituents. He then published The Senator Gravel Edition, The Pentagon Papers, Beacon Press (1971) with commentaries by Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky. This publication resulted in a landmark Supreme Court decision, Gravel v. U.S, based on the Speech and Debate Clause (Article 1, Section 6) of the United States Constitution.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:31 PM
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7. I'm old enough to remember him
I heard him interviewed on the radio recently. Maybe it was on Thom Hartman's show. He was sharp, articulate and sounded so caring about the state of our country.

He's just too hip for some of the current crop of talking heads!
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:24 PM
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10. I got the metaphors.
Did you notice, in the rock/water clip, he is always walking just ahead of the ripples, and it appears that they are expanding to keep up?
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CitizenRob Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 05:13 PM
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11. I think it's really unfortunate
that so many DU'ers are so willing to call this man crazy and buy into the crap that will keep people as good as him out of office.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:07 PM
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13. Yeah
God forbid we call a man who'd throw the Constitution in the bin....crazy

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/19/gravel-we-dont-need-no-stinkin-constitution/#more-18549

Gravel: We don’t need no stinkin’ Constitution!

(snip)

Mike Gravel seems to have no idea what’s in the Constitution.

I chased Gravel down as he was leaving, shoulder to shoulder with Ralph Nader. It gave me no pleasure to ask him, “Senator, isn’t what you just described a ‘bill of attainder’?”

Here’s the exchange that ensued:

“Are you a Constitutional expert?”

“No, I’m a journalist.”

“Well, Congress can do any g**d***ed thing that it wants.”

(snip)
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 05:32 PM
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12. Amen man, he looked so stupid trying to act like FUCKER!
Going after the man for needing 3 takes to get a commercial done.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:54 AM
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14. I was proud to have Mike Gravel as my senator
for the first five years I lived in Alaska. He is fearless.
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