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Bob Geiger Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 05:05 PM
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Edwards And Obama Bring Hope To TBA Conference


Democratic presidential candidates John Edwards and Barack Obama brought a crowd in a packed ballroom at the Washington Hilton to its feet Tuesday with speeches that spoke to both the brains and hearts of attendees at the 2007 Take Back America conference. Obama led the afternoon agenda, starting his 35-minute speech at a bit after noon and giving the kind of talk in which almost every sentence seemed like an applause line.

"There's something in the wind out there. There's something stirring, there's a hunger in this country right here and right now, longing for something new that we haven't seen in years," said Obama in opening his speech. "People are hungry to turn the page and write a new chapter in American history."

After talking about his activist start in politics and his work registering voters in low-income areas of Chicago, Obama spoke of his time as a young law professor. "I started teaching Constitutional law because, unlike some occupants of the White House, I actually believe in the Constitution,"
he said to a roar of approval from the crowd.

Obama lit into the Bush administration as a "can't-do, won’t-do, won’t-even-try kind of government."

And, of course, the Iraq occupation was front and center in the Illinois Senator's speech.

Speaking of the "persistent stubbornness of a president who refuses to end this war in Iraq," Obama invoked Team Bush's talk about supporting the troops and how few actions have actually backed that up.

"They'll talk about defending the troops and then leave them to fend for themselves after they serve our country," he said.

And Obama, who was against the war even while in the Illinois State Senate, reinforced his belief that Iraq was a calamity waiting to happen and that Congress should never have provided the initial authorization to Bush.

"So many of us knew this back then, even when it wasn't popular to say so," said Obama. "We knew back then this war was a mistake. We knew back then that it was dangerous diversion from the struggle against the terrorists who attacked us on September 11th. We knew back then that we could find ourselves in an occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences."

"We are sixteen votes away in the Senate from ending this war. And so we need to keep turning up the pressure on all those Republican Congressmen and Senators who refuse to acknowledge the reality that the American people know so well. We will call them, and knock on their doors, and we will bring our troops home."

Obama drew thunderous applause when he talked about a national health care system that will insure every American and pledged to all in attendance that he will "sign a universal health care plan that covers every American by the end of my first term in office as your President. Count on it."



John Edwards had a hard act to follow, taking the stage to a very enthusiastic reception after the charismatic Obama, but he came to the microphone with a broad smile on his face and instantly drew the crowd into his speech.

"I want to start by talking about this war in Iraq, because we need to bring this war to an end," said Edwards, grabbing onto what is clearly the dominant issue for most conference attendees. "I voted for this war and I was wrong to vote for this war. I take responsibility for that and I will have to live with that."

"But Congress had a mandate as a result of the election last November. The American people made it very, very clear what they wanted. They wanted to see a change, they wanted to see a different course in Iraq and they wanted to see America leaving Iraq."

This brought a loud cheer of approval from the energized crowd and Edwards used the moment to lash the Democratic Congress for giving George W. Bush a blank check with which to continue the war.

"It was time for the Congress to stand firm, to stand strong and to have courage. Unfortunately, that did not happen. But we need strength and conviction in the Congress because this president has no intentions of ending this war."

The former North Carolina Senator then went on a tear that proved to most in the room that he belongs on the same rhetorical stage with Obama and he told the crowd his core beliefs to building applause:
"To be very simple about this, whether it's the war in Iraq, whether it's universal health care, whether it's getting off our addiction to oil, whether it's the issue of dealing with climate change, whether it's dealing with an issue that's enormously important to me, which is the inequality that still exists in this country or 37 million people who wake up every day in poverty, for me, it's very simple.

"And this is it: No more pontificating, no more vacillating, no more triangulating, no more broken promises, no more pats on the head, no more 'we'll get around to it next time,' no more taking half a loaf, no more tomorrow.

"For the men and women who are leaving this country to go serve in Iraq, there is no tomorrow. For women around this country who have, like my wife, been diagnosed with cancer or breast cancer, you can't talk about putting universal health care in tomorrow.

"We need to do these things now. We -- our party -- we need to be bold, we need to have backbone, we need to have courage. It is time for us to lead again. It is time for us to show the leadership that America and the world needs from us."
And Edwards talked at length about the moral leadership that America needs to once again show, promising the standing-room-only audience that "on the first day that I'm sworn in as president of the United States, I will close Guantanamo."

That was the tone of Edwards' entire speech and it seemed to strike all the right notes with a crowd that embraced him as much, if not differently, than Obama.

He ended by describing the difficult decision faced by his family in the face of the return of his wife Elizabeth's cancer and said that both he and his wife decided that this mission of his must continue because it so closely defines who he is as a person.

"This is what I intend to do for the rest of my life. I will speak for the poor, I will speak for the uninsured, I will speak for the disenfranchised -- this is my life and I'm going to do it as long as I'm alive and breathing," he said, while asking for similar committment from his audience. "My question to you is this: What are you willing to do? How much are you willing to give? How much do you love this country? To paraphrase Gandhi, 'You've got to be the change you believe in.' Your country needs you. Everybody in America needs you."

Both Edwards and Obama were mobbed after their speeches by autograph seekers and those simply trying to snap a picture or get close to two people who just might become the next president.

And the consensus at the conference seems to be that we would be fine with either one.

You can read more from Bob at BobGeiger.com.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 05:10 PM
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1. Thank you, BobGeiger! Nice rundown. nt
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eweaver155 Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 05:11 PM
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2. Thanks Good Post
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:07 PM
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3. Thank You, Bob! (n/t)
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 06:47 PM
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4. Edwards/Obama is my dream ticket
thanks for this great summation! :hi:
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 07:09 PM
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5. Why is this thread sinking? too much positivity?
Edited on Tue Jun-19-07 07:09 PM by Beaverhausen
only the bashing threads seem to get any attention. Nice.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 02:57 PM
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18. "Draft Mario Cuomo" must be on vacation
:eyes:
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:09 PM
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6. I'll give it a kick
Edited on Tue Jun-19-07 08:38 PM by waiting for hope
and a rec - Thanks Bob! It's always great to hear our candidates energizing the people - the more the people here, the easier a Dem win will be in '08. Nicely done :thumbsup:
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be inspired Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 06:12 AM
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7. Different take on yesterday's event
I have a different take on the event, though you should keep in mind that I went there to support my candidate, John Edwards.

Obama managed to get a lot of loud supporters to show up there. Rumor has it his campaign gave interns from DC free admission if they would hold an Obama sign. He had hundreds of people there, and they were all in their early 20's. Many of them did seem to have come because of the rumored free admission, because they seemed uncommitted to Obama and just as happy to support Edwards when he spoke. A lot of them left right after Obama spoke too, but of the ones that stayed, many seemed uncommitted.

Edwards had less vocal support, but it was 100% real supporters who had come there to volunteer. The numbers were not artificially pumped up, as far as I could see. In fact, many of the people were people I know from having volunteered for him before. After the event, I spoke to a lot of conference attendees who said both men spoke equally well, but Edwards was the one with the ideas on how to solve our problems. Most that I spoke to after were leaning toward Edwards, but then again, I did have an Edwards t-shirt on, so maybe they just wanted to talk to me.

Obama lifted a lot of lines from Edwards's previous speeches almost verbatim, but he spoke first, so I don't think many in the crowd realized it. (Obama is pretty well known for doing this among long time Edwards supporters. I may get slammed for saying so, but it's the truth.) Obama's speech was better than some I have heard from him, but lacking in specifics.

Edwards did very well, listing a barrage of impressive and specific ideas that was hard to keep up with, and came away with a lot of new support, I think.

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seashorelady Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 06:52 AM
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8. Thank you for sharing first hand knowledge with us.
It must have been wonderful to have been there.
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:39 AM
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9. Real people with real solutions, not just the same old, same old.
I would vote for either but would love to see Edwards/Obama. Wow, Brains and charisma, combined with a real understanding of how things are. Couldn't do better!
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eweaver155 Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:11 AM
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10. The both of them will try to bring us together.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:50 AM
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11. Kick for Edwards
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:04 AM
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12. K&R For a positive post
I doubt that Obama had to bribe people to go, as the above poster suggested. I've seen the crowds at his appearances. It's nice to see a positive post about two of our candidates, who can give people hope, because it's sorely needed.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:17 AM
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13. excellent post, what a nice change - something positive about 2 candidates
K&R

I heard basically the same. After the great Obama speech, some people I knew who were there thought there was no was Edwards could match it - and they all say he might have even exceeded it, and with real details and inspiration.

must have been a great event.

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 12:00 PM
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14. Hope versus Fear
If this tack can be sailed well, the tailwinds of frustration could finally stall the selfish ugliness that's held this country in a headlock since the 1980 election. As the reactionaries "scare the pants off of us", as Max Cleland put it so well, these two guys have the personalities and presence to whip up some hope and joy. That's what people really want: exuberance is much more appealing than a cowering feeling of tenuous safety in the face of dangers and horrors around every corner.

This is getting to be a very interesting campaign, and one of the best things about it is that the Democrats have a few very viable and truly charismatic contenders, whereas the Republicans haven't got anyone with more than a slight whiff of star quality. (I mean Romney, who DOES have some presence, even if he's substanceless and unelectable and McCain, who's un-nominatable and nuts.)

What this does is just give the ambient feeling that the Democrats are alive and tuned-in to the little guy's needs, and that's a great thing.

Nice thread, thanks.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 12:31 PM
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15. Great article!!!
Obama/Edwards would be my #1 ticket and Edwards/Obama would be my #2 ticket.
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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 02:15 PM
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17. Edwards/Obama
That way we get 8 years of John and then 8 years of Barak, who will have gained valuable experience. It won't work the other way.

Al Gore could be Sec of State seeing has how he doesn't want to run for Pres again (do you blame him?) Maybe Patrick Fitzgerald could be Attorney General? I believe his has actually read the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. Wes Clark as Sec of Defense?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:49 PM
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22. Ahh... Wes Clark as Sec of State
Al Gore Rocks but I doubt he will go for anything short of president.

Obama/Edwards could work because Edwards is not too much older than Obama.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:09 PM
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16. Well, I just had to laugh ...
"...longing for something new that we haven't seen in years ... "


He blew his mind out in a car;
He didn't notice that the lights had changed.
A crowd of people stood and stared;
They'd seen his face before;
Nobody was really sure
If he was from the House of Lords.
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Grandrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:18 PM
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19. K&R
Both are inspiring!:) :kick:
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:54 PM
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20. It seems the positive threads get no attention whatsoever...
Where Mario?
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eweaver155 Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:12 PM
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21. Kick
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