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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:53 PM
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Poll question: Bloomberg?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:55 PM
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1. H. Ross Perot. A spoiler. And he will split the liberal to centrist votes, not the conservative
ones.

Hello, President Fucking Romney???
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 03:02 PM
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10. He will not split social conservatives
but he will split republicans libertarians and business conservatives
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:55 PM
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12. The social conservatives will run to Romney, if he makes it to the General.
My fear is they'll hold their noses and vote for the Mormon. If they GOTV with that bunch, and the Democrats get lazy and lacadaisical, the Bloomberg peel off vote could hand the Presidency to Mitt the Shitt. And that would be baaaaaaaaaaad!!!!!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:31 PM
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22. Believe it. President Fucking Romney. nt
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:58 PM
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2. i dig him, that is of course until i hear the faults
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 02:04 PM
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3. Who does this clown think he is?
What a massive ego. A mayor. A freakin' mayor running for prezzie. Two mayors, to be exact. But if you're going to be a mayor running for president, you better damn well be a GOP candidate, because the only way you'd have any cred is if thousands of people were killed on your watch, and that seems to be a political plus for the Republicans, unless said Mayor was Black and said thousands were killed by a hurricane.

Bloomberg is a freakin' mayor from a town that everybody south of the Mason-Dixon line loves to hate. Sure NY is a big city, and I'm sure it takes alot of expertise to run it, but so is LA. What would people say if Villaragosa ran for president? Villa-WHO?

Two towers crumble to the ground and all the sudden two mayors think they're qualified to run a country. What a joke.

Non-starter.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:13 PM
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15. They think NYC is a state, for all intents and purposes...
You ignore this guy at your peril, though.

Like I said, no one heard of H. Ross Perot until EVERYONE heard of him, and he made the cover of TIME .... Money, like it or not, talks.

All he has to do is split the vote. Then it's a crap shoot who ends up with the biggest slice.

That's how Clinton won the first time--no one thought he'd do it; everyone was sure Poppy would pull it out. H. Ross Perot stole enough votes from George to help Bill along, even though that wasn't his intent.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 02:08 PM
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4. Eff him.
He's bloody close to Ghouliani if you ask me. If he runs as a Dem I won't vote.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 02:13 PM
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5. I think he should move to Connecticut...
and run against Joe for his Senate seat. :woohoo:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 02:14 PM
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6. I'll put you down for "threat to Republicans". n/t
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 02:16 PM
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7. Matthews...oh golly he loves men
Just a little while ago they were on MSNBC asking Matthews what he thought of Bloomberg and what his run, if he decides to, would mean.

Now he thinks Bloomberg is the right guy. That he is a good choice and that he could probably win it ALL. What happened to Deputy Dawg Thompson, Romney, serial adulter rudi and McCain. He had his nose up their butts at one time. Who is he going to fall in love with next.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 02:50 PM
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9. Did he say what Bloomberg "smells like" to him? Maybe the smell of "greenbacks"
more that eau du Aqua Velva, English Leather with a hit of cigar smoke like his beloved Fred.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 02:48 PM
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8. Desperate Corporate Repug looking for someone to ditch the RW and
make more money for the Kudlow/GE/TIME WARNER/BILL GATES, etc./Supply Siders who worship Reagan and want to remake the Party in the true Corporate Image it's most comfortable with.

Those RW'ers are going to be pretty surprised when they are thrown under the bus.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 03:19 PM
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11. I think he hurts the GOP
if he runs.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:09 PM
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14. I think the opposite--he hurts the Democrats by taking votes from them
Get a load of this liberal record with a dash of fiscal responsibility AND a goodly helping of "Business-friendly-ness"--can you say miniature Jewish Bill Clinton? What a triangulator with a liberal/business, as opposed to conservative/Fundystupid, slant: http://www.ontheissues.org/Mike_Bloomberg.htm

    Reproductive choice is a fundamental human right. (May 2006)
    Backs same-sex marriage. (Mar 2007)
    Mandatory minimum sentencing for gun crimes. (Dec 2006)
    Lock them up and throw away key, but no death penalty. (Dec 2005)
    You bet I smoked pot; and I enjoyed it. (Apr 2002)
    NYPD will continue to vigorously enforce drug laws. (Apr 2002)
    Replaced school board with direct mayoral control. (May 2007)
    No social promotion; more after-school. (May 2007)
    Strengthened cell-phone ban in city schools. (May 2007)
    Focus on increasing high school graduation rates. (Apr 2007)
    Creative housing: deck over highways & build brownfields. (Apr 2007)
    Clean up 7,600 acres of brownfields; build more parks. (Apr 2007)
    Environmental justice: clean soot in poor neighborhoods. (Apr 2007)
    $8 fee to enter NYC by car, to encourage mass transit. (Apr 2007)
    Staunchly for free trade and against protectionism. (Mar 2007)
    All presidential candidates should declare an issues matrix. (May 2007)
    Founder of Mayors Against Illegal Guns. (May 2007)
    It's not about gun control, it's about crime control. (Apr 2007)
    Sued New York City gun dealers to control guns. (Mar 2007)
    Prioritize city healthcare on HIV, diabetes & hypertension. (May 2007)
    Banned trans fats in NYC restaurants. (Apr 2007)
    Smoking ban was a crusade of his mayoral administration. (Oct 2005)
    Use DNA and fingerprint technology for worker ID database. (May 2006)
    Normalize status of otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants. (May 2007)
    Border controls fight natural forces of supply and demand. (May 2007)
    NYC jobs program caused lowest unemployment rate since 1976. (Apr 2007)


And just as important what he does say, is what he hasn't said:


    Re: ENERGY AND OIL--No issue stance yet recorded by OnTheIssues.org.
    Re: FAMILIES AND CHILDREN-- No issue stance yet recorded by OnTheIssues.org.



    Mike Bloomberg is a Moderate Libertarian Liberal
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 06:20 PM
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19. wow. That list has NH written all over it.
I have a sneaking suspicion that NH will go red again should he join the race. And I agree with you... I think he'll take votes from all of the top tier Dem candidates. Especially now that he's officially an Independent. For all those moderates that are just SICK of the usual D's & R's.... I think Bloomberg hurts both equally.
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:35 PM
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23. Welcome to DU from a fellow New Hampshire-ite
I agree Bloomburg will pull pretty evenly from the pubs and Dems. I expect Thompson will be the republican nominee and would win NH.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 04:58 PM
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13. He's a threat to Dems until they figure out that they need to APPEAL to SOCIAL LIBERTARIANS.
As opposed to this tired "jettison the gays, silence the atheists, shove the pro-choicers to the back of the bus, continue to boost the idiotic and failed drug war, and by all means woo the values voter" crap.
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LBJDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:34 PM
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16. Yeah; whatever.
He's a threat to Dems if Dems want to position themselves as Bloomberg-lite.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:18 PM
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21. Thus says the poster who believes "we" need to support anti-choice Democrats.
Edited on Wed Jun-20-07 08:23 PM by impeachdubya
Whatever, yourself. :eyes:

Oh, and news flash: There aren't even enough "values voters" to keep the GOP in power without the help of widespread election fraud, theft, and cheap, phony terra! terra! terra! scares. How'd that Terri Schiavo thing work out? And perhaps you haven't been informed that the Vast Majority of Americans Are Pro-Choice.

As for the few actual, genuine "values voters" that there are, AFAIC the GOP can have them, because the mainstream of America is far more liberal on social issues than either party reflects.

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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 05:45 PM
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17. IMHO, he's going to pull 'true Republicans' away from the fundie
Edited on Wed Jun-20-07 05:45 PM by hippiechick
... nutjob neocon incarnation that the party thinks it is now.

Any businessman GOP'er with 3 active brain cells knows that the neocon never-ending-war and military pillaging of what's left of the national treasury and infrastructure is going to be
shit-ass bad for the country, the economy, and ultimately for their fortunes down the road.

The only way to maintain their system of (cough) "free market" capitalism is to turn the party
(or some faction) back towards more "traditional" conservatism, which yes - will include some
tax relief and investment in social programs/education/health care for the worker bees.

Sick, debilitated or dead workers don't make profits for the company.
And sick, debilitated or dead workers don't buy things with the peance they get from the company.

It's simple economics: the current regime is endangering the system.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 06:08 PM
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18. That's what McCain was supposed to do...
before he started acting like the Chimp.

then Rudy stepped in... and started acting like the Chimp.

They can't help themselves, and I don't care what shade of lipstick you put on it, a GOP-er is still a pig. Bloomberg is a niche marketing ploy that will not play in Peoria.

Are there any cliches I missed?
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 07:38 PM
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20. McCain is in early demetia, and Rudy's a whore.
Bloomberg doesn't owe the BFEE anything, AFAIK. :shrug:
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rep the dems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:55 PM
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24. Yawn. I'm not worried about him. Maybe I should be. nt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:36 PM
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25. Bloomberg was a Democrat, and then he became a RINO
and now he is an independent. I don't see what the fuzz is all about, unless the mere announcement that he is no longer Republican has upset some people that had fixed the Democratic nomination so that a status quo candidate "wins" the nomination.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:59 PM
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26. A threat to Hillary and Giuliani
He's not good for anyone, so that's not too bad.
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