Looks like a revolution's taking hold here against the establishment candidates

[StudentsMustUniteNow]

Let's hope the elites take notice. They can push their people on us all they want, but apparently, we're not going to have it.

[Bullet1987]

1. What are you talking about?

[StudentsMustUniteNow]

2. Clinton and Obama no longer have as much support

There's a weariness taking over, and members are starting to see things as they are rather than how the media present them as.

[peacebird]

5. LINK ADDED saw an article today which said HRC was being taken to task for not stating her positions

on issues...

will try to go find it to add a link

"Would she pardon Scooter Libby?

No comment.

Would she nominate a union leader to be secretary of labor?

Maybe.

Would she repeal the North American Free Trade Agreement?

Can't say.
"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/20/ap/politics/main2954395.shtml

[rinsd]

10. And the negative BS continues,,,

:eyes:

Clinton or Obama losing support here is laughable.

Clinton gets shit here all the time. Her supporters treat it as water of our backs. There are very few fence sitters with Hillary here and I doubt today swayed anyone for or against her.

Obama probably won over quite a few Duers with his speech.

But go ahead with your fantasy that your non stop bashing of the Democratic candidates has any effect on anyone beyond annoyance.

[Bitwit1234]

11. Finally someone besides me speaks out.

I don't understand why these people say they are democrats. They have a right to their choice, but it is terrible they bash Hillary Clinton. If they are for Obama that's fine. But it just shows the rest of the country that the democrats are still in dis array. Do they think their continually bashing of Hillary Clinton will make anyone who thinks she will be a good president change. The same with Obama and Edwards. If people bashed them do you think it would change their supporters minds no. If they are so FOR their candidate they should post the good things THEIR candidate will do. Try to win people over that way they more you bash the more people dig in.

I lean toward Edwards but it upsets me the way the continue to bash Hillary Clinton. I suppose they think it is the "cool" thing to do. It isn't it shows their disrespect for the whole democratic party. THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOING SO SO MUCH TO RUIN THIS COUNTRY GO THE HELL AFTER THEM.

[mckeown1128]

16. Obama is not the establishment candidate...

Clinton holds that title. I love Gore but he would also be an establishment candidate if he ran. Obama is reletively new to Washington, he hasn't had time to become part of the establishment.

[sandnsea]

3. Disrupting the process

Same thing this person has been talking about since she showed up.

[StudentsMustUniteNow]

4. Attacking the messenger

That's your game?

[Capn Sunshine]

8. I love rhetorical flame fights

You must be a pro. Nice disruption.
Oh yeah, the polls really bear out your assertion don't they?

[StudentsMustUniteNow]

9. The polls here certainly do!

Did you not see how many will not vote for Clinton? Did you not see how many checked into my thread on "not being fond of Obama and Clinton"?

[redqueen]

7. what process is that? n/t

[Sparkly]

6. If "we" were the entire Democratic constituency, it might be noticed. nt

[Radical Activist]

12. Hillary and Richardson are the establishment candidates.

I'm glad Obama is able to raise enough money and inspire enough people like me to have a decent shot at getting a real progressive nominated. Just because someone is doing well doesn't make them establishment.

[leftofthedial]

13. they don't give a crap about us

maybe, at best, they'll pull their paid agitators off this site and cut down on the pointless flame wars

[Name removed]

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[StudentsMustUniteNow]

15. kick

:kick: