Clinton ties Giuliani in Ohio

[Alamom]

http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2007/06/new_poll_clinton_ties_giuliani.html


New poll: Clinton ties Giuliani in Ohio
June 27, 2007 13:47PM

New York Sen. Hillary Clinton has pulled into a tie with former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani in Ohio, according to a new poll on the 2008 presidential race.

Clinton gained ground from mid-May, when she trailed Giuliani by four points among Ohio voters in the Quinnipiac University Poll, which is regularly monitoring voter sentiment in Ohio and two other presidential swing states.

Clinton also leads Arizona Sen. John McCain and former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson in head-to-head matchups in Ohio.

The poll found that Clinton and Giuliani continue to lead their respective party fields in Ohio. Clinton is leading among registered Democrats in Ohio with 40 percent, compared to 12 percent each for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and former Vice President Al Gore.

Giuliani commands 25 percent among registered Republicans in Ohio, compared to 17 percent for Thompson, 16 percent for McCain, and 7 percent for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

[William769]

1. And beats him nationally.

[PATRICK]

2. Let me take a wild guess

and speculate that Guiliani will last so as not to create a glaring vacuum before the first vote is cast. neither Thompson nor Romney, the real establishment and Bush favs, can stand too much long attention. If they have to destroy Guiliani should he become an embarrassing leader over the two real choices they can and no, they don't want to make a Veep deal for him or anyone outside the inner circle. Then the "drama" will be a tantalizing "exciting" one on one, Thompson versus Romney depending on which mug succeeds in not self-destructing. The match-ups, if the GOP succession goes smoothly will be the clean GOP candidate versus the roughed up Dem and all party loyalties restored as a start. Then, having actually LEARNED from, experience, the so-called "independent" Bloomberg will lead a third party to get the undecideds and unhappy Dems. No Perot thorn in the side or accidents or pre-occupations with a sort of charismatic alternative THIS time.

Then it is all money and media whittling down the Dem until the fraud machine goes into full swing. This is all about scorn for poll parsing and public opinion that seem to enthrall Dems in contest mode when they should be concentrating on the real business at hand.

The apotheosis of poll drama actually takes place right at the Dem Convention when you can almost taste the landslide in the polls. Then it dissipates like a midsummer's night dream until we are BEHIND trying to =seek mercy from corporate polling. Then an admission of voter reality which favors Dems, then the famous GOP 72 hours flimflam, sham and ham. A little loss of a million votes here, a million padded there, and presto. The morning after all the wise Dems are pouring ash and recrimination over their heads for not having done their issue parsing and bean counting focus groups correctly.

Then they will blame it on progressives for divisiveness and any fake excuse the GOP can help them with in their time of shame and grief. Then having lead the party into impotence and despair they will try to repeat the process and keep their internal organization careers. They will unbelievably try to do what the establishment would do if their candidates had won- get rid of Howard Dean as the first order of business.

This is probably how the GOP sees the situation and willingness to break every law known to mankind is a great aid to their warped creativity.