Okay, I haven't watched yet.Who won the Debates? Your opinion please

[saracat]

[SaveElmer]

1. Hillary, Biden, Kucinich (as much as that pains me)...in that order...

Richardson did worst...

Gravel is just bat shit crazy

[BenDavid]

40. I agree...Not many special

moments but HRC with the AIDS answer and the audience response. Biden with his knowledge on issues and Dennis with his answers on war spending...Over-all a good debate because we did not have a moderator that talked more and had more minutes then the candidates...I E Wolf Blitzer
I do thank you
Ben David

[draft_mario_cuomo]

2. 1) Edwards 2) Kucinich 3) HRC but no one really stood out nt

[rwheeler31]

3. Watch it was good.

[rucky]

4. Kucinich & Hillary n/t

[napi21]

5. Hillary!

Like her or not, the lady knows her stuff!

[churchofreality]

33. That's the truth. nt

[LBJDemocrat]

6. why didn't i know about this?

When;s the next debate? Is there a GOP debate coming up? Where can I figure this shit out? I'm pissed.

[soothsayer]

14. you can find the rebroadcast schedule here (also on video Friday at 7am)

http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/special/forums/video.html

[Neoma]

7. Kucinich

[Hippo_Tron]

39. I appreciated Kucinich pointing out that the defense budget has to be cut

Richardson also made a very good point along the same lines that whenever Democrats want to spend money on social programs, it's always asked "Where is the money coming from" but nobody asks that question about funding the war.

[ReadTomPaine]

8. The Democratic Party won.

It was the best debate so far, pretty much everyone did well. I'm still pissed they hired Luntz for the after-debate focus group, but the debate itself was good.

[xxqqqzme]

51. You got that right

It will be a frosty day in hell before any rethugs have a forum @ Howard University w/ a panel of journalists of color. I was thinking last night what are the rethugs gonna do to counter this - have a forum @ regents university w/ fundie bible thumpers asking bible study questions?

Every question asked, I was thinking 'how would the rethugs answer that?'

[Like It Is]

9. Biden, Hillary and Edwards in that order.

There were few opportunities to excel, they were all on the same page except Goofy Gravel.

[Like It Is]

12. Example

In the CNN debate, Biden called for intervention in Darfur, including a no-fly zone. This time 6 people beat him to it.

[Robeson]

10. Hard to judge a "debate" based on soundbites...

...I've posted my opinion here... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3345604&mesg_id=3345759

[Cameron27]

11. Kucinich, Clinton, Biden

in that order.

[goodgd_yall]

13. Kucinich and Edwards n/t

[goodgd_yall]

15. Thoughts on Biden admitting he had an HIV test

I thought this was a good opportunity to take the stigma off having such a test and then Obama piped up thinking he had to explain why he tested. (This was after Biden said he tested and he knew Obama did too---probably not a bright thing to say since it violated Obama's right to medical privacy.) Lots of laughs, but the opportunity was lost. The impression left---and this is NOT leadership---was that you have to have done something scurrilous and lascivious to warrant wanting to be tested. After Obama explained that he got tested along with his wife after visiting Africa, Biden thought he then had to explain himself and said he had had a blood transfusion.

[Chomskyite]

16. Good point

It looked like we were about to have a real forward-thinking moment there. When I heard Biden say he'd been tested and so had Obama, I was inwardly hoping, "Now DONT explain it." I thought it was especially unfortunate Obama seemed to have to reveal he was actually heterosexual, his wife knew about it and it was because they'd both been to Africa. Jesus H. Can Obama be any more disappointing than he has been this month? All he can do next is reveal enthusiastically, "And Joseph Lieberman has agreed to be my Secretary of State!"

[goodgd_yall]

18. It was very revealing about Obama

now that I think of it. A not very progressive heterosexual male kind of response. Not deep down in his bones progressive anyway.

[Ethelk2044]

23. He knew how the media would grab a hold of the comment therefore it was best.

That he explained it to others who did not know. There was nothing wrong with what he did.

[mckeown1128]

28. Well disapointing if you ignore the fact that

he wasn't talking about homosexuality, he was talking about adultry. Biden had a great point but shouldn't have brought Obama's medical information into it.

[Greyskye]

19. Obamas HIV test was public knowledge

It wasn't exactly a secret that Obama and his wife had been tested for HIV - they did it publicly in order to raise awareness of the issue. http://www.kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/rep_index.cfm?DR_ID=39464

[goodgd_yall]

20. Ok then, Biden didn't violate Obama's privacy

But all the more that Obama needn't explain if the circumstances around his getting an HIV test were so well known.

[jillan]

17. Dodd had a really good nite.

He is not my first pick, but I was impressed by him tonite.

[nealmhughes]

21. Judging from the audience response and Cornel Wilde's embrace: Kucinich won.

When he let loose on "Immediately end NAFTA and the WTO and institute a country by country fair trade policy" the crowd went wild.

[JTFrog]

24. DK was the only one

who got the big applause on his responses. End the war, impeach the criminals, universal health care, get our jobs back, put our money into education. :applause:

None of the other candidates got that kind of response.

[GreenArrow]

22. Kucinch, then Clinton

.

[gasperc]

25. Edwards, by far

understood the black community, spoke to the poverty and disadvantages that the community faced, and spoke about the issues clearly to me, as a 40 year old white guy, understood their communities issues are my issues and America's issues, and how spectacularly wrong the Supreme court was yesterday. All too often I felt like Hillary was yelling at me, my wife told me to shut up, so there's that.

[Czolgosz]

26. (1) Edwards, (2) Dodd (surprisingly), (3) Kucinich, (4) Obama, (5) Hillary, (6) Biden (7) Richardson

[ChiciB1]

27. I Watched The Washington Journal This AM & I Think Brain Lamb & Tavis Smiley

said it will be re-aired on C-Span today at 2:30 PM. I could be wrong because I was leaving the room at the time. I guess I need to check the C-Span schedule.

[Stop Cornyn]

29. Kucinich, Edwards, Dodd, Obama, Hillary, tie: Gravel, Biden, Richardson (in that order)

[FrenchieCat]

30. Obama won, Richardson Lost, the others stayed where they were......

Obama was relaxed and provoked more thought with his answers than others. An example was the issue asked about New Orleans. Obama made the statement that we must ask why New Orleans was were it was prior to the Hurricane. Why did so many believe that in the case of an emergency all everyone had to do was to get into their SUV with their Sparkling water and go check into a hotel. In other words, we, the United States are unprepared to care for those who don't have what is required to survive when emergencies hit, and that shouldn't be. Obama made one realize that this is the root of the problem in reference to what happened during Katrina.

[saracat]

31. Obama mostly requoted John Edwards.He several times said, Let me agree with John

and rehashed what Edwrds had just said.He didn't have any original ideas.Sorry. I just saw the Debate but really no one won.IMHO.

[FrenchieCat]

35. Thanks for "your" opinion......but please note that my post voiced "my" opinion...

which I thought you were interested in hearing...since you ask in your OP...."what was your opinion?" :shrug: ......
And as I clearly stated in my initial post in providing you with my opinion that you so seeked, that I feel that Obama won.

.......I watched the debates, and I don't believe that Obama's words were a rehash of Edwards, no matter how gracious Obama appeared to be towards Edwards. John Edwards' answer on NOLA was that he would appoint someone specifically to oversee the emergency situation, and Edwards would ask him daily...."what's happening today in New Orleans"...also Edwards reminded folks that he announced his candidacy from New Orleans, which I guess must mean that he cared that much more. He talked about 700 students coming to New Orleans and working there during their break......as though John Edwards was there the entire time working with them...... :eyes:

So like I said, I liked Obama's answer on NOLA (which had nothing to do with Edwards') as I liked quite a few of his other answers.

[saracat]

43. I was interested Frenche! And thank you for your reply!

I had only just watched the Debate and it did sem that frequently Obama did a version of "what he siad, when he spoke after Edwards.You have made it very clear you have no use for Edwrds.On the other hand, I also respect Obama.I just don't think he is too "greem" but I don't go out of my way to bash him. He is a likable guy and that is my opinion too. And thanks again for yours:)

[Hippo_Tron]

38. Not his fault if Edwards got to answer the question before him

This was the first debate where all 9 would answer every question and therefore there was bound to be a lot of repeating of ideas. Had Obama been placed in the line before Edwards, you probably would have heard a lot of "Let me agree with Barack".

But I agree, no one really won.

[jenmarie]

44. They mostly were all saying

the same thing -- at least the media-chosen "front-runners." That's why Kucinich stood out for me.

[saracat]

45. Audience Poll says Edwards won!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3347353

[churchofreality]

32. Clinton won, Obama is Captain Kirk.

He can't keep speaking like that if he wants to win.

[ellisonz]

34. Mike Gravel. n/t.

:sarcasm:

[Hippo_Tron]

36. Nobody talked for long enough to be declared a winner, IMO

I will say that I think Obama improved greatly since last time.

[jefferson_dem]

37. Obama won the debate. Hillary sounded shrill. Gravel made DK appear "mainstream."

n/t

[A-Schwarzenegger]

41. Hillary for saying "We will shoot down their planes!"

I'm not sure whose planes it is, but I want a tough guy president. I want some planes shot down.

[venable]

46. is this a joke? you want some planes shot down?

deliver us from this mindset, please.

(if you were joking, I apologize)

[A-Schwarzenegger]

47. Who's "us", you and your hamster?

Apology accepted.

[venable]

48. I'm guessing I missed the sarcasm the first time...

but why, then, the hamster comment?

color me baffled.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

52. I'm guessing I wanted to know who "us" was.

Did you mean "us" as in "me"?
I don't believe in sarcasm.
Are you baffled by hamsters?
What about Hillary saying,
"We will shoot down their planes"?

[venable]

53. oh, well,

As I give up, let me just mention that 'us' is everyone - it's a rhetorical device...never mind, but let's not shoot down any planes
.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

54. Us needs to talk to *Hillary Clinton* about not shooting down planes, mm-kay?

Are we aware she actually said the words we attributed to her?

[venable]

55. Hillary and I are not on speaking terms

because I don't trust a word she says.

(not sure what she thinks of me, but I guess if she knew me she wouldn't be too enamored)

[A-Schwarzenegger]

56. Don't fly over her house in an airplane, then!

She's one tough cookie and looking to prove it!

[jenmarie]

42. Kucinich

I didn't see the entire forum, about the last 20 minutes or so, but Kucinich consistently answered the questions in a way that had me shouting "right on!!" The rest were pretty predictable I think.

[0007]

49. It would be hard for me to pick a winner, they all looked good

except for Richardson.

[StudentsMustUniteNow]

50. Gravel

Sorry. He normally embarrasses himself and the other candidates, but this time he outclassed the others and rammed his points home.