Minority Voters Support Clinton

[Alamom]

http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/news/newsbyid.asp?id=69319&cat=Headlines&more=/news/more-news.asp


Minority Voters Support Clinton

June 29, 2007
Michael McAuliff -- New York Daily News

Hillary Clinton is leading among Hispanic voters by a huge margin. Honda/Getty
WASHINGTON - Not only is Hillary Clinton leading her rivals overall, she is doing surprisingly well among minority voters, a new poll says.

The Gallup Poll's annual minority survey said the New York Democrat is virtually tied with black Illinois Sen. Barack Obama among African-Americans.

And she trounces all her rivals with Hispanic voters - even Hispanic New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson.

"Right now, it's pretty much Hillary, and then all the rest," said Gallup's Jeff Jones.



According to the survey, Clinton edges Obama with black voters, 43 percent to 42 percent. Among Hispanics, she gets 59 percent support, compared with 13 percent for Obama, 11 percent for Richardson and 7 percent for John Edwards.

[ShortnFiery]

1. Clinton edges Obama with black voters, 43 percent to 42 percent.

Whoa! Well within the margin of error suggests that some overzelous HRC supporters are a little less than fully honest in our headlines? :wow:

43:42 percent Clinton *insignificantly* blips Obama. :eyes: :thumbsdown:

[wyldwolf]

2. Clinton whacks Obama in favorablity among black voters

84% to 68% :wow:


But it all works out in the ratio.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

3. Wow

It is not surprising to see HRC lead among African-Americans but it is surprising to see Obama's favorable rating that low (relatively, since it is among Democratic voters).

[ShortnFiery]

5. Where did you get your stats? Not from the original Gallup Report.

:thumbsdown:

[SaveElmer]

8. Do you read?

Take a look at Wyldwolf's post again...

[ShortnFiery]

10. Yes, I read the ORIGINAL Gallup Poll Article which was quite disparate from the NY Daily News.

:thumbsdown:


June 28, 2007 GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

Clinton Dominant Leader Among Hispanic Democrats
Blacks divided as to whether Clinton or Obama would better represent their interests

by Jeffrey M. Jones

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/default.aspx?ci=28000


Among black Democrats, Clinton and Obama are running neck-and-neck in what is essentially a two-person contest. In the poll, 40% of black Democrats prefer Obama and 38% Clinton with no other candidate in double digits. With Gore's support re-distributed, Clinton and Obama's combined share of the black vote increases from 78% to 85%, with Edwards the only other candidate above 1%.

[SaveElmer]

12. Ugh...nevermind

:eyes: :eyes:

[ShortnFiery]

14. You're welcome. I don't know what your point is, but we are not referencing the same sources. n/t

[ShortnFiery]

Bullshit! According to the original Gallup Poll, they are 40% Obama and 38 % Clinton.

With a + or - 7 point MOE. Therefore they are *statistically TIED.* What's up with you HRC supporters? Between the HYPED headlines and BOGUS statistics, one would think that you don't mind cheating? Ends justify the means? :thumbsdown:

"Among black Democrats, Clinton and Obama are running neck-and-neck in what is essentially a two-person contest. In the poll, 40% of black Democrats prefer Obama and 38% Clinton with no other candidate in double digits. With Gore's support re-distributed, Clinton and Obama's combined share of the black vote increases from 78% to 85%, with Edwards the only other candidate above 1%.

*edited to correct spelin' :blush: spelling errors.

[wyldwolf]

23. Nope! Sorry. Link to the ORIGINAL Gallup poll here:

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=28006

[ShortnFiery]

6. dupe

[Ethelk2044]

11. If you think that you need to think again.

[wyldwolf]

22. that's what Gallup says

[wyldwolf]

21. oops! Why, HERE is the stat!

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=28006

Favorable Ratings of Presidential Candidates Among Blacks

Hillary Clinton Dem. 84%
Al Gore Dem 69%
Barack Obama Dem 68%

Now.. what?

[ShortnFiery]

4. OMG! There's Lies, Damn Lies and New York Daily News "Statistics"

Not only is this Article's title A LIE (not telling the whole truth about minorities), but the numbers are WRONG - therefore - the report on Black Voter's preferences makes them equal. Hell, the percentages, albeit insignificant FAVOR Obama. :grr: :puke: :thumbsdown:

FROM THE ORIGINAL GALLUP SURVEY REPORT

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/default.aspx?ci=28000

June 28, 2007
Clinton Dominant Leader Among Hispanic Democrats
Blacks divided as to whether Clinton or Obama would better represent their interests.

Clinton is the overwhelming leader among Hispanic Democrats. A majority, 55%, choose her, with Obama and Gore barely in double digits -- at 12% and 11%, respectively. New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, attempting to become the first Hispanic president, is the choice of just 8% of Hispanics.

"Among black Democrats, Clinton and Obama are running neck-and-neck in what is essentially a two-person contest. In the poll, 40% of black Democrats prefer Obama and 38% Clinton with no other candidate in double digits. With Gore's support re-distributed, Clinton and Obama's combined share of the black vote increases from 78% to 85%, with Edwards the only other candidate above 1%.




FROM THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS ARTICLE QUOTED BY THE THREAD ORIGINATOR

June 29, 2007
Michael McAuliff -- New York Daily News
Minority Voters Support Clinton ---> LIARS! :grr:



According to the survey, Clinton edges Obama with black voters, 43 percent to 42 percent. :crazy: Among Hispanics, she gets 59 percent support, compared with 13 percent for Obama, 11 percent for Richardson and 7 percent for John Edwards.


*Check your FACTS when considering the veracity of a New York Daily News Article, specifically one authored by one each, Michael McAuliff.

[pinkpops]

7. One debate question refered to black hs grads unemployment vs white non-grads

Clinton was the only candidate to pick up on the actual question.
All of them answered we need better education, etc., but the question was in reference
to the black unemployed actually having better academic credentials than the whites that
land the jobs.

[ShortnFiery]

9. OK, here's some more statistics from The Same Gallup Poll clearly favoring Obama:

To gain additional insight into the element of race in the 2008 presidential race, Gallup asked the public whether they thought Clinton or Obama would do a better job of representing the interests of blacks in the United States. By a 57% to 24% margin, Americans say Obama would do the better job. That result is largely reflective of the white majority in the United States, since whites believe Obama would better represent blacks than Clinton by more than 3 to 1.

However, blacks themselves are evenly divided on this question, with 43% saying Obama would better represent them and 39% saying Clinton. Hispanics are also evenly divided in their views.

Among all Democrats surveyed, 54% say Obama would be better at representing blacks and 29% say Clinton would.

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Ever since my Graduate School DAZE in Experimental Design Class, I discovered that you can almost SHOW any damn result using the right polling questions and skewing the statistical percentages.

Bottom Line: Hispanic voters feel more comfortable with HRC while Black Voters are evenly split ... AT THIS TIME. :hi:

[Ethelk2044]

13. This is because Obama has not begun courting the Hispanic vote yet.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

15. Obama and Edwards have very low name ID among Hispanics

I saw a poll a few weeks ago that had Obama's name ID at 60% and Edwards at 40%. HRC, of course, has nearly universal name ID. It is inevitable that BO and JE will gain ground among Hispanics as their name ID rises.

[ShortnFiery]

16. Good point: That may very well be true. :-)

Yes, it's going to be a long primary season. :shrug:

[pinkpops]

17. Only Clinton answered the question that was asked

But I like the others
Edwards is very knowledgable.

[ShortnFiery]

18. Well that settles it! We may as well go home and let the DLC vote for us, aye?

:eyes:

[pinkpops]

19. I don't think it settles anything. I was waiting for someone to

take note of the question which was asked and finaly someone did.
On edit -
I also think it is interesting that the sub-thread I started had no reference to the point I was trying to make until I put Clinton's name in the subject line.

And it is interesting that the sub-thread I started had little to do with the original thread.

I guess some of us just like to hear ourselves talk...

[ShortnFiery]

20. Or get off-topic?

:shrug:

p.s. start a new thread with your statment above as the The Topic?