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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:29 PM
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Dean is not at the JJ dinner in wisconsin.
Edited on Sat Feb-14-04 09:46 PM by Bleachers7
Sheela Jackson Lee is there on his behalf. Now he has missed these 2 weeks in a row. It turns out he is at his kids hockey game. Oh well. CSPAN earlier in the day said he would be there.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:31 PM
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1. I think I read somewhere he's attending his son's hockey game
I know that doesn't answer your criticism. But that's where (I believe) he is.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:33 PM
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3. If that's true, I might be off base.
I hadn't heard that before.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:37 PM
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5. Found it. Here's a link.
http://www.madison.com/captimes/news/stories/67993.php

In response to a question about family during an interview at the medical center, Howard Dean noted he flew home on Wednesday to see his son's high school hockey game. He added he would skip a major political dinner on Saturday to see that son's final hockey game before he graduates.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:45 PM
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10. perfectly understandable
I understand why he didnt attend. I really do think though and no offense to any Dean supporters here but I really think he should have attended the Virginia Dinner.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:45 PM
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11. Thanks
I will change it.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 10:58 PM
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14. Isn't this why he missed the Virginia Dinner? Jeez, Is Rove
in charge of scheduling for the Burlington Youth Hockey League?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:41 PM
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8. Heh.
:)
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:36 PM
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4. "Serious candidates."
Howard Dean's campaign scared the Republicans shitless by showing what real people could do when effectively inspired by someone who doesn't take any shit from anyone.

I wonder what it is, bleachers7, that makes you say he is not a "serious candidate," after all.

And personally, Howard Dean's campaign changed the way I will look at campaigns and elections forever. And listening to the man speak, and hearing how he proposed to give hope to this country, fixed something inside me that I didn't even know was broken.

I'm hurt and angry at what was done to him after he felt safe enough to show his exuberance in Iowa. How pathetic this country is that we must characterize things we wouldn't do or don't understand as "bad." It makes me furious. And I'm sad for the country; I feel Howard Dean has the potential to be the best president in decades, and I hope he won't give up on thoughts of a future run.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:38 PM
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6. I largely agree with you
But Dean is not showing up in different states or at these functions. This is 2 weeks in a row. Now if it is for his kids game, I understand. I understand his commitment.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:54 PM
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12. "Dean is not showing up"
Forgive the hell outta me, then. He's not showing up where -- WHO says he should?

Are there rules for running campaigns? I would imagine Dean & his camp are doing what they find to be appropriate. I don't care much what they do as long as they don't break any laws and do all they can to get my guy to the top of the pack.

Nice of you to understand, BTW.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:04 PM
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16. The handwriting's on the wall,he might as well log in some quality time.
Edited on Sat Feb-14-04 11:05 PM by oasis
:shrug:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 10:00 PM
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13. Absolutely.
:toast:
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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:14 PM
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17. Wrong. Dean was a horrible candidate who had no self-control
Don't cry the loss of a rookie.

Get behind Kerry.
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GodHelpUsAll2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:19 PM
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18. Sounds like....
A direct quote from Fox News. But wait, they aren't creible. Unless it's something we agree with then they are a shining expample of pure journalism.
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:28 PM
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21. !/2 biscuits doesn't like 'rookies'...career establishment politicos are
his real deal.

Dean '04...
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:25 PM
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20. A pro-war DLC establishment candidate won't do it for me. Running a
pro-war demo against a pro-war incumbent will have a great outcome...for the incumbent. We can't beat Bush by being like Bush. We can't beat republican warmongers by supporting their war and then feigning ignorance unless ignorance is the truthful answer at which point we have now a greater problem. Cheers!

Dean '04..The Anti-Iraqi War...Anti-DLC...Anti-Establishment candidate
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 08:26 AM
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23. Oh yeah.
:eyes: Wahh. If he was so horrible, how come Kerry copied him?

Speaking of self-control, why does Teresa Heinz feel it necessary to mention things to the press about botox injections,etc? The fact that apparently she has a strained relationship with one of her sons?

It's apparently only okay if SOME people get frank and personal, but if a candidate actually gets excited about things, then that's wrong.

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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 08:43 AM
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25. People like you will turn off the voters that Dean turned on!
Whether Dean gets the nomination or not he is the reason that the Dems can take back the white house. But if people like HalfMan continue to act arrogant and nasty many of those people will vote green again or not vote at all.
Try having a little tact. Let the primaries due what they are suppose to do, let us all have our say. To dictate that we should all get behind Kerry before the whole process is complete smells like republican party lock step disease to me.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:47 AM
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27. Behind Kerry Not a chance
voted wrong on the war
voted wrong on the Patriot act
voted wrong on no child left behind
absatined from the tax cut vote
Tool for the Bush administration
WILL NOT get my caucus. WILL NOT get my money. WILL NOT get any of my time or energy.
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:40 PM
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7. I guess it's time to reject your apology.
You meant that purge crap after all.
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disenfranchised Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:43 PM
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9. He couldn't take another Kerry speech.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:49 AM
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28. LOL right on! N/T
zzzz *snort, um, he just said something that pissed me off, but I didn't quite....zzzz

worthless sack of political waffles.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:04 PM
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15. I love Sheela Jackson Lee
she's a great substitute and I admire Dean for putting his kid first. He knows how important Wisconsin is better than anyone and still is doing what he promised his son.
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GodHelpUsAll2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 11:21 PM
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19. Novel concept
Keeping promises.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 07:52 AM
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22. I can understand his son's last hockey game
His job of parent is important. And the boy's last high school game is an event. I can't fault Dean on that at all.

However, this was the same reason given for him being a no-show last week in VA. Now, that I have a problem with.
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burned Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 08:47 AM
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26. you might want to research that VA dinner cancellation
Its not in our best interest to help spread falsehoods about any of our candidates.
There were not two last hockey games.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 08:29 AM
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24. Anyone who's followed their Son/Daugh thru HS sports will understand
After four years of 6:00 AM practices, road games, last-minute skate sharpening and stumbling over "body bags" in the garage, the parents and the kids are so bound together with the hockey club that it becomes...well...a family.

When his son comes off that last line, I know that Howard and Judy will be bawling like babies. I know I will be when it happens to my son in 2 years.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:17 AM
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29. His son's team won the game.
Good for him for being there.
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