Is Kucinich electable?

[penguin7]

It is pretty clear to me anyway, that on the issues Kucinich is solid.

The problem is superficial. Does Kucinich have a chance with his looks?

[redqueen]

1. Who cares? It's primary time. Vote on ISSUES now.

Vote for whom you must later.

:hi:

(edit: grammar)

[RufusTFirefly]

13. Agreed. Vote issues now. Then support the inevitable corporate tool in the generals

[zonmoy]

21. I agree

vote for him on the issues now. and when the corporate puppet is placed then you can either chose to vote for the lesser of two evils, that is still an evil, or you can get Kucinich to run as an independent or as a green.

[Le Taz Hot]

47. Or you can write in

Kucinich's name.

[zonmoy]

99. I might although I will wait until I found out who the greens are running first.

[cui bono]

115. Shhh.... haven't you read all the rules posts? nt

[Vincardog]

2. YEs he is correct on the issues.

[Colobo]

3. Not at all

[DemBones DemBones]

14. Why not? Because the DLC and the corprorate sponsors aren't behind him?

The people who are being supported by the DLC and corporate sponsors are NOT the people we need.

[provis99]

68. he is not electable because the DLC is not behind him.

Sad but true. To get elected to be the Democratic candidate you need the support of the DLC and the corporations.

[ldf]

82. and who's fault is THAT?

ours, because WE continue to have the attitude that we have no choice.

they are counting on our feeling helpless. they know we won't stay home.

at least that has been the case in the past. in the future? who knows.

there is no way in hell i could vote for a republican. and i am getting awfully tired of voting for republican-lite.

who knows when the line will be crossed?

maybe it's up to the dlc to wait and see just how far we can be pushed before EVERYTHING is "off the table".

:shrug:

[ClassWarfare2008]

96. To be a Democratic candidate, you need the support of REPUBLICANS??

Tell me what's wrong with this picture.

No, tell me why far too many on this board don't think there is ANYTHING wrong with it.

[Wwagsthedog]

4. DK is the only man! nt

[Webster Green]

5. Yes, if enough people vote for him...

I'm voting for him! (again):patriot:

[durtee librul]

6. I like DK alot - -

however in this society where looks are so damn important, he don't stand a chance...unless he figures out a way to have his ideas come out of his wife's mouth. Then we'd have all the red blooded amerikuns voting in droves.

I just wish he stood a chance as he makes a lot of good sense and I think he knows when and where to temper his remarks and actions. No-one seems to listen or take him seriously and that is so sad.

[DemBones DemBones]

7. Why must a president be tall and look like a movie star?

And name me three who were tall and looked like movie stars.


What should be important is a candidate's stand on the issues. Look at Kucinich's positions on all the issues and tell me who is his equal?

Dennis Kucinich is electable if people support him.

[AndyTiedye]

20. Because Presidential Campaigns Are Carried Out on Television, That's Why

It really sucks that the best man for the job can't be elected because he's too short, but that's the way it is.

[RufusTFirefly]

24. Gee, could we possibly be more shallow?

(That was a rhetorical question.)

[DemBones DemBones]

25. So? Explain to me how * is better looking than Kucinich?

:rofl:

Or Nixon? :rofl: LBJ? :rofl: Eisenhower? :rofl:

Is height everything? If so, the US is totally fucked. I just don't believe that the shallow vote is that large.

[AndyTiedye]

42. It's Different if You're a Repiglickin'

The networks played every trick in the book to hide the fact that Kerry is much taller than Bush.

They did everything they could to bring out the difference in height when Dukakis was our candidate.


Everything was different back in LBJ's day. We still had some liberal media.

[cui bono]

116. Regarding Nixon... for the Nixon/JFK debates, those who heard it

on the radio though Nixon won, those who watched on TV thought JFK won. It shouldn't make a difference, but it just does, even if it happens subconciously.

I also heard that at first the Nixon camp was complaining that JFK was getting more air time. But as it went on and Nixon started sweating a lot they kept telling them to get the camera off of him.

[some guy]

8. Whoever gets the most votes is electable.

Do you want a leader or a spokesmodel?

Please vote accordingly, and encourage others to do the same.

:)

[Double T]

9. Dennis Kucinich is electable if YOU put your vote where your heart..........

and head tell you. If YOU want REAL change in government, Dennis is the man. Dennis looks like a REAL WINNER when compared to our current excuse for a leader. Kucinich in 2008!

[JeffR]

10. If DK isn't electable

the problem is not with him but with the voters.

The Oval Office has been occupied by Lincoln, Arthur, Cleveland, Taft, Coolidge, Truman and Nixon. Granted, some of them were lousy presidents, but one thing they all had in common was a complete lack of "good looks". And I'm really giving the benefit of the doubt to a few others, come to think of it.

[Selatius]

11. He's not electable because people don't think he's electable or don't know him.

Your average middle of the road voter hears more about Obama and Clinton than Kucinich. Kucinich, for all his positions, doesn't get a lot of media time.

[DemBones DemBones]

16. The media are controlling politics. They must be stopped by

using other means of getting Kucinich's message out.

[ClassWarfare2008]

12. He should be

If we had a fair media in this country, Dennis Kucinich could win for all the same reasons Jimmy Carter won in 1976. But the media was still fair then. Now it's all fear all the time, and a guy who talks about a Department of Peace ain't going to get a break from those bastards.

[Hun Joro]

15. He is absolutely electable.

It boggles my mind when I hear people say how much they like Dennis, but won't support him because he isn't electable. What kind of ridiculous circular thinking is that?

Lately I've noticed in the couple of public appearances I've seen Dennis make, audiences are responding very well to him. I think he'd have a good deal more support if he could just get some exposure. When all people know about him is his appearance, no, he isn't electable. But the man has great substance and he is not afraid.

[DemBones DemBones]

17. DONATE to Kucinich -- help him bypass the MSM marginalization of his

candidacy. He will be given very little chance to get his message out through the MSM.

[barack4prez]

18. When Hell freezes over

[ripple]

63. Welcome to DU!!!!

And agreed, Dennis is not electable. :hi:

[redqueen]

19. Just vote for him in the primary! That's the time to vote for the BEST!

You'll get your chance to vote for the not-nearly-as-good corporatist-approved candidate later. :D

[ripple]

67. I did that in 2004

In fact, Kucinich won my caucus, and I was his cheerleader. In Kansas. The idea was to get some delegates to help shape the platform in a more progressive manner. Obviously, it didn't work out.


I don't blame Kucinich or our delegates. I do, however, blame the party power structure in individual states. They don't elect a candidate, they anoint one.

[Bake]

22. No. Just NO.

There, I've said it. Again.

Bake

[DemBones DemBones]

26. Make your case, Bake. nt

[Bake]

30. THREE PERCENT.

Three percent. Among DEMOCRATS.

Does that do it for ya?

Bake

[Lydia Leftcoast]

50. Except in Minnesota (17%, 27% in the Twin Cities)

Washington State (13%), and similar percentages in Maine and New Mexico. He even got 7% in Utah. He also got 15% or more in several precinct caucuses in Iowa and I believe he won one county.

Yet he got 3% in such supposedly liberal strongholds as Oregon and Madison, Wisconsin. But he did better in two small towns in Wisconsin, Viroqua and Ashland.

The difference? Groups of volunteers who were able to overcome the corporate media BLACKOUT.

[DemBones DemBones]

53. The media prefer to say Kucinich is at 3% because then they can

justify ignoring him.

Thanks for the great info, Lydia. It shows how very important volunteering for Kucinich is.

[Yukari Yakumo]

71. One problem...

Washington's poll is from 2006.

In Maine, he only has 1%. The same in Wisconsin. New Mexico he only has 3%.

You might have a case if you didn't make up the numbers as you went along.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

81. I'm talking about actual results from the 2004 primaries

I am not "making up numbers as I go along."

[Bake]

100. 2004?

I thought we were talking about 2008. Your candidate is simply NOT ELECTABLE, any more than Michael Dukakis was electable.

Bake

[cyclezealot]

77. Several locations he did quite respectable.

Minnesota, Oregon. Hawaii . He carried Maui and get very respectable votes on the Big Island. He also carried the Piedmont region of North Carolina.

[cyclezealot]

78. Does not matter anyway.

He is right on the issues he get my vote. I don't waste my vote on someone I don't either trust of agree. That is a wasted vote. And it is cosmetic. Edwards is moving towards Kucinich's positions. Yet, Edwards's 400 hair cut makes him acceptable to those who have no time to study substance.

[DemBones DemBones]

52. Kucinich's low poll numbers can be attributed to the media, who

marginalize him (and have done so since 2003), and to Democrats who ought to know better saying he's "not electable."

What's Edwards at now? 12% ? WAY below Clinton and Obama but no one says Edwards is "not electable." They call him a "top tier candidate."

We all know that name recognition is a big factor in polls, even in elections. A lot of people thought they were voting for Poppy when they voted for Dubya. Clinton has major name recognition, helped by having been First Lady for 8 years. She also has high negatives, though, don't forget that. Obama has a big war chest that has helped him build name recognition. Edwards should have name recognition, having beeen the VP nominee in 2004, but it's not helping him in the polls.

Kucinich could have high name recognition and poll numbers if he had major corporate donors supporting him, as others do. He doesn't want corporate support because he knows that there are strings attached to it.

Kucinich doesn't want to be beholden to corporate donors so he's asking for 1 million Americans to donate $50 each. If people will donate and work for his campaign, he can get name recognition and, more importantly, get his message out, without selling his soul.

If he gets his message out, I think he'll be electable and be elected.

[elocs]

23. Reality check: No. But the point is academic since he will not get the nomination.

Is it possible to be a good Democrat and not be a supporter of Dennis Kucinich? He's right on every issue--by whose reckoning? Was there some kind of Democratic consensus reached when I was not looking?

[RufusTFirefly]

27. I only wish your avatar were running

Then the whole question would be moot. At least for me.

[elocs]

45. He might be, as the VP candidate which he said he would accept.

Feingold had the good sense to realize he had no chance of getting the nomination in such a crowded field and since he does what he feels is right he tends to piss off people, even some Democrats such as when he was the lone vote against the Patriot Act and Democrats stood with him. Instead of raising and spending peoples' money in a lost cause Feingold works hard to be the best senator possible and still gets his message across. I am fortunate that he is one of my senators.

[DemBones DemBones]

31. So you prefer another DINO nominee?

:shrug:

[elocs]

46. Right, because Kucinich is the only true Democrat and the others are DINOs.

I would like to see a poll that would show how Kuninich would do against a likely Republican nominee. When it showed Kucinich handily losing the poll would be dismissed here, however if it showed him doing well it would be shouted from the housetops as coming from the mouth of God. In a perfect world we would elect our leaders based upon their good ideas. Welcome to the real world. Isn't reality a bitch?

[DemBones DemBones]

57. People are ready for a change. They want an end to the war

in Iraq.

If they know what's in the PATRIOT Act, they want it repealed.

If they've noticed how the job market's been, they want an end to NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT and the WTO.

A lot of people have no health insurance. Others have health insurance but are paying through the nose for it and know other people who have no health insurance.

Kucinich is the only candidate who promises to end the war, repeal the PATRIOT Act, get the US out of NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT, and the WTO, give all Americans single payer insurance.


I've been in the real world quite a long time, thanks, and I know the odds are stacked against Kucinich because the top three Dems have got all the corporate money behind them. And the GOP owns the voting machines.

But if we're just going to give up on our ideals, we might as well vote Republican.

Vote for Kucinich.

[elocs]

61. Sorry, I don't agree that Kucinich is the only choice that Democrats can make.

At this point I am undecided, but I will not throw my primary vote away (and in my mind that is what I would be doing) on Kucinich. I reject the premise that to vote for anybody else is to vote Republican because somebody other than Kucinich will be the Democratic nominee and only a fool would vote for the Republican candidate. That "there's no difference between Democrats and Republicans" helped to defeat Gore in 2000. I also reject the notion that only Kucinich represents our ideals. I am a Democrat and I will vote for the Democratic nominee in the general election even if that person is not the one I voted for in the primary.

[levinags]

28. Iraq

I think that if Iraq is still going really bad in 2008, he could have a chance.

[barack4prez]

29. When pigs fly

[DemBones DemBones]

32. You already said "When Hell freezes over" -- what cliche will

be next?

[barack4prez]

39. Give me some time

I'll come up with another one.

[groovedaddy]

33. It shouldn't really fuck'n matter, should it?

We are mired in the "cult of personality" - and who, exactly, gets to decide what's admirable, attractive, etc.?
Kucinich is dead on about everything I care about.
I hate that question: "do you think he can win?" Only if people who ask that question vote for him!

[TheFarseer]

34. DK needs to win a STATEWIDE election

before I can consider him for nationwide office.

[More Than A Feeling]

40. That's what I think too.

Most Representatives know that. That's why you don't see 433 of them running.

[RufusTFirefly]

44. I respect that misgiving

Unfortunately, we have what's called the "moving goalposts" fallacy. The thread started out suggesting that DK was unelectable because he's short and not a male model. It's since been shown that candidates who are shorter and "uglier" than their opponents have won on numerous occasions despite the irrepressible meme that says the taller candidate always wins.

So, now it's time to change reasons apparently.

People who say Dennis can't win because he's too short or not attractive enough are shallow idiots who don't deserve a decent president. Go back to watching "American Idol" and we'll be sure to let you know when the election is over. On the other hand, people who point to DK's lack of statewide experience have made a compelling, intelligent point that calls for an equally compelling and intelligent rebuttal.

Thank you for elevating the level of discourse.

[sellitman]

35. Can a ugly DU poster comment on this post too?

:sarcasm:

[bdamomma]

36. are we more concerned about the issues or his looks

I am, and the more I listen to him I like his stance on the issues.

Remember he is the only one who started the impeachment of Dick Cheney. He is for the people and this country.

[RufusTFirefly]

37. By the way, the height meme is bullshit

But don't let that stop you from perpetuating it...

George McGovern (6'1") lost to Richard Nixon (5'11 1/2")
Gerald Ford (6'1") lost to Jimmy Carter (5'9")
George H.W. Bush (6'2") lost to Bill Clinton (6'1 1/2")

And if you live in fairyland and think the last two elections were fair, then in each case George W. Bush "lost" to a taller opponent.

Other "unelectable" shorter candidates include Pres. Calvin Coolidge, Pres. William Howard Taft, Pres. Theodore Roosevelt, and Pres. William McKinley.

[Lionel Mandrake]

38. Can Kucinich jump from the House to the White House?

A candidate for president is usually expected to have been either a governor or a senator. Without that experience, he or she will not be taken seriously by most people. I think this is Kucinich's main problem. I wish it were otherwise. I contributed to his campaign and will vote for him because of where he stands on the issues.

Just as Gene McCarthy showed RFK the way in 1968, Kucinich may yet influence one or more of the other candidates in this election.

A song which was unpopular in the 1960s still resonates today. I wonder how many readers will recognize these lines:

"The president he’s got his war;
Folks don’t know just what it’s for."

[sueh]

41. If you want to vote for Kucinich then vote for him, damn it!!!

It's the frickin' primary, for cris sakes. Vote for who you really feel best represents your needs and your issues. That's what I'm doing, so, you won't be alone if you choose to vote your heart and not try and play the "electability game".

[NotGivingUp]

43. He's the ONLY one that I WILL vote for. nt

[Stop Cornyn]

48. Depends on how many people vote for him.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

49. If we have the courage to vote for him at primary time

When I worked on the campaign four years ago, I could have enjoyed a lot of extra disposable income if I'd had a dollar for everyone who said, "I agree with Dennis on almost everything but he can't win."

It's as if people were saying, "I'm letting the corporate media choose my candidate."

[calteacherguy]

51. It is impossible for Kucinich to win the General Election...or the nomination.

And he's a smart enough guy to know that...he's not running to win, he's running to make a statement.

[DemBones DemBones]

55. He's running to win. He will win if people turn away

from the DLC selected candidates and vote for the man who's right on the issues.

[calteacherguy]

62. "right on the issues" is a matter of opinion.

Our party is quite diverse, and not everyone shares Kucinich's views...in fact, a majority don't.

[Fire Walk With Me]

54. That it even matters says a lot regarding the sad state of our nation.

[Hollow Shells]

56. Yes, he is.

[EndElectoral]

58. If he won the primary, I think his exposure on issues would get him elected. Media doesn't want him

[EndElectoral]

59. If he won the primary, I think his exposure on issues would get him elected. Media doesn't want him

[Yukari Yakumo]

72. No...

I think exposure of his past in Cleveland and what he has said about how he'd run the White House (Dept of Peace, anyone?) will guarantee he'll never see double digits in any poll.

[rucky]

60. Oooh, yeaaaah. Gimme some of dat GOP Man Meat!

McCain...Guilani...Ron Paul. The strapping Thompson Twins

How come it's only a beauty contest on our side of the aisle?

[dsa]

113. Don't forget Romney

He's the dreamy one... :loveya:

[Hippo_Tron]

64. Hopefully in 10-15 years someone with his positions will have a chance

If you feel that his positions will be advanced by voting for him in the primary then you should by all means.

[Nutmegger]

65. The Presidential campaigns have turned into a sickening popularity contest.

Instead of issues, people react more to hair or height and the M$M won't even touch anyone who's "not cool".

I don't vote that way; I'd vote for dog shit if it were where I stand on the issues, but sadly most Americans answer to appearances.

[goodgd_yall]

66. What's wrong with the way he looks? n/t

[Alexander]

69. Nobody thought Truman could win in 1948.

I like Dennis, and may vote for him in the primary if the other candidates don't excite me.

[Enthusiast]

70. After listening to Nader on C-Span....

After listening to Nader on C-Span yesterday morning I got the idea that he could endorse Dennis for president.

I would vote for Dennis in a heartbeat.

[cyclezealot]

73. Looks. That is what makes the US superficial.

and to think Bush is a looker. If , This is the case, then the problem is with the American people. Guess, its brawn and not brains.

[Yukari Yakumo]

74. Sorry to bring down a man of such *integrity*

Kucinich: "what I am going to say is that FOX is a legitimate news agency"
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/3/15/113017/654

Dennis Kucinich has decided to attend
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/5/29/172123/070

Daily Kos's take on DK, note points 3, 4, and 5. Especially 5:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/2/23/113236/176
We had 8 years of a stubborn asshole in the Oval Office. We don't need 4 more years of the same.

[Hollow Shells]

87. I looked at your 3, 4, and 5

3) Personally, the notion of peace, and people thinking about how to achieve it does not scare me.

4) Most of the candidates believe in virgin births and resurrections, so his comments are tame in comparison.

5) Who the fuck is Melvin G. Holli? Why should I care what he thinks.

When it comes to the issues, Kucinich hits them all. He is an elected official, which is proof that he can be elected.

P.S. Cool anime avatar.

[paulk]

75. no, and it's not superficial

Democrats have listened to him on the issues and said "no".

[cyclezealot]

76. if Democrats say no to his issues of trade, healthcare, and Iraq

then I guess this Democrat better find another party. Because that party is then, not worth my time.

[paulk]

79. go for it

if you think Kucinich is the only one with answers to these problems, then, by all means, take your bat and your ball and go home.

[LWolf]

86. Bookmarked

to post every time someone whines about Nader voters, and to post when the post-'08 blame game revs up.

If Democrats are going to invite those Democrats who still stand for core issues like labor, like social and economic justice, to leave the party, the Democrats can damned well be accountable for the outcome instead of whining and crying over the "traitors" who don't vote with them AFTER BEING DARED TO.

[paulk]

91. whatever...

Yeah, right. Kucinich is the only Democrat who stands for labor, social and economic justice (when he isn't voting to outlaw abortion)....

Sounds like you want Republicans in control - since that's the only logical outcome of voting 3rd party. That's the bottom line. You must be totally down with everything that's gone on these last seven years with Bush.

But, go ahead and do it. Then you can pat yourself on the back about how good and pure and right you are. Then you can wail and gnash your teeth about how fucked up the world is. Then you can sit in your ivory tower and piss on the rest of us, the ones who've had to compromise our ideals with real world choices.

[LWolf]

101. Attacking disagreement with blatantly false propaganda

is the sign of a weak position. If there were any substance in the point you are trying to make, you wouldn't need to use bullshit. Unless your ego gains something through mud-slinging. :eyes:

Please find someplace, at any time during my 4.5 years and 10,000+ posts at DU, I ever said that Dennis Kucinich is the only Democrat to stand for labor, social justice, etc.. You won't, because I never did.

Please do not attribute your faulty logic to me, or post assumptions about "what I want." Again, find someplace, any time or any where, I ever said I wanted Republicans in control. You can't, because I never did.

Your angst about your compromised ideals has nothing to do with me.

[paulk]

103. this thread is about Dennis Kucinich, so it would seem to follow,

when it comes to those Democrats running for the nomination, since that is what the thread is about, that your point was that none of the other Dems running stand for those things you mention.

I find your protestations rather revealing, especially in light of your sig line:

"I will not vote for the following candidates in the general election. If you choose to nominate them, you do so with the knowledge that I will not be there: Clinton, Obama, Edwards, or Biden."

Since three of those four are most likely to be the nominee, your promise to not vote for any of them pretty well translates into helping a Republican get elected. So, it's only logical to conclude that you don't have much of a problem with that.

I realize that my angst about not being able to live in my perfect world has nothing to do with you. That was the whole point. That you missed it is also revealing - I'm willing to compromise my ideals for the greater good, which often means voting for someone who doesn't entirely live up to those ideals.

You're not.

[LWolf]

106. Please don't interpret my words to mean other than they do.

That sig-line has been there since before a single one of the current declared candidates made any formal announcement that they were running. It will be there until the convention. At that time, it will become something else. Something not campaign related, since I don't expect to be campaigning at that point. At least, not on DU.

It also doesn't say, "If you don't nominate DK, then I won't vote." There are many Democrats I'd happily vote for. There is another, stickier issue here that you are not addressing. There is a reason why those Democrats aren't running, or don't appear on the "top tier."

You bring up the greater good, and that is my whole point. To me, the greater good is not a partisan issue. Political parties are about power, not about the greatest good. It does not further the greater good to vote for a party when the parties are corrupt.

It furthers the greatest good to vote for those Democrats who are least tainted by that corruption, and to refuse to empower those with ties to the source of that corruption. That's how to restore the confidence and trust of the people, in the Democratic Party and in the system of government we operate within.

Therefore, I will not vote for corporate Democrats. Period. I perceive corporate influence to be the source of the corruption I want to eradicate. The greater good is best served by returning to the ideal of a government "of the people," "for the people," and "by the people."

I've declared that I have no confidence in those people in my sig line to do make that their guiding focus.

I interpret the nomination of a candidate that I've declared no confidence in to be a clear statement: "We don't value your vote enough to nominate someone who can earn it. The Democratic Party doesn't want or need your participation."

So be it. I am humble enough to accept that my perspective, and my agenda, may not be the majority. If that's the case, I'm sorry, but I'm not accountable for the majority's choices. If you think my vote is important to your agenda, then earn it. Or be accountable for your wins and losses without it. No blame game.

[cyclezealot]

95. Nafta , Cafta and pandering to the HMO's gods is what

makes life miserable for the American people. If Democrats pander to such elements, they are little better than the Republicans.

[bunnies]

80. What Dennis needs is a Gore endorsement. n/t

[ShortnFiery]

83. No, the DLC would again SIC the M$M on the front runner - we'll be stuck with their candidate AGAIN.

Remember the disgusting and CLEARLY smarmy hyped-up "Dean Scream" that the illustrious cable news networks aired every five minutes until Dean tanked?

Until we get an half-a**ed FAIR and truly BALANCED mainstream media outlets, liberal candidates are also having to fight the M$M as well as their political opponent. :(

De-Consolidation of the M$M is the only answer. :shrug:

[MonkeyFunk]

84. You have your history wrong...

Dean tanked in Iowa, then perpetrated "the scream".

[LWolf]

85. He looks like an average human man.

Which has nothing to do with electability, imo. What someone looks like does not make them worthy, or unworthy, of a vote.

Dennis Kucinich is electable just as soon as his own party decides that he is. His opponents can't beat him on issues and record. They can only do so on $$$, corporate connections, and by proclaiming him "unelectable."

[Yukari Yakumo]

88. Game, set, match.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

92. Ittai doushite Kucinich ga sonna ni kirai na no?

:shrug:

[napi21]

89. I agree with John on quite a few things, but I disagree with him on

his Dept. of Peace. It's a novel idea, but I think it makes him sound foolish and unrealistic.

[dsa]

117. I have to agree with you there

It always makes me giggle and wonder if he'll have the post office deliver pixie dust and moonbeams.

[Fire Walk With Me]

90. Repubs can't say that Dems don't have ideas or important issues that matter.

Obama, and to a greater extent, Hillary, strike me as a bit slick, on the surface. Hillary is obviously involved in the machine.

I certainly hope that Dennis can be elected. And can then be fully effective once in office.

[Arugula Latte]

93. Nope.

Next question.

[MaineDem]

94. No but it has nothing to do with his "looks"

And welcome to DU.

[DutchLiberal]

97. I think he is.

To me, he looks like I can trust him. You know, he has this look on this face that says: "I will take care of your problems". I don't know if that sounds stupid, but to me, he airs a sense of confidence, safety. So yes, based solely on appearance, I think he's electable. And then add his record: WOW!

The problem is, the media is only focused on issues that don't really matter, like how tall he is. Who cares? They're obsessing over his younger wife. Even Letterman, for crying out loud! Give it a rest already. And nobody's talking about his record. If it came to records, Kucinich would be the next president. That's a fact. Nobody has a better record than him. But who cares when all the media is telling John Edwards looks so darn' handsome and Hillary and Obama are the only two possible candidates?

[DutchLiberal]

98. Take a look at this:

"The problem is superficial. Does Kucinich have a chance with his looks?"

This man got elected prime-minister in The Netherlands three times:



And take a look at the prime-minister of Belgium:



I think it's safe to say Kucinich looks ten times better. :rofl:

[fujiyama]

102. Personally I don't consider him much less electable than Hillary

but that doesn't say much for her chances either.

At least Kucinich is correct on most issues...unlike the anointed one.

[leftofthedial]

104. yes

if "democrats" find a way to reconnect with their souls

[TheBaldyMan]

105. Yes, not only electable he'd make a great President.

The MSM is totally ignoring him because he is so strong on the issues. The presidential debates would have you believe there is no alternative to a bunch of stooges like Obama and Clinton who have been bought and paid for by corporate interests.

When you can't tackle him on the issues try personal attacks or change the subject. The issues that Kuchinich is the strongest are the ones that matter the most to everyday people. Economic issues like healthcare, employment and the environment. Dennis Kuchinich is streets ahead of the other candidates on these. Politically, the Iraq war, election fraud and impeachment - again he's ahead on the issues by far.

That's why nobody is even mentioning him or expressing the opinion that he's too extreme/left-wing/ugly.

The reason these tired, old excuses are aired repeatedly is because he is right. He's right in principle, he's right in detail so nobody can challenge him on the issues, his critics have to fall back on bogus arguments as flaccid as their own 'solutions' to America's woes.

Go Dennis!

[Geek_Girl]

107. I don't think he'll win the primaries because he's seen as Unelectable

But the truth is he's more electable than Hillary or Obama in the general election.

[jcrew2001]

108. i'd like to see his wife as first lady!

nt

[mainer]

109. he's the ONLY candidate talking sense on health care

I used to believe he was unelectable. Maybe he's still unelectable. But he's the only candidate with a viable health care plan (expanding Medicare to universal coverage). He's the only one who seems to have the courage to say what needs to be said about impeachment.

Damn, but I like the guy more and more every day. I just wish I didn't feel he doesn't have a chance to win the primaries.

[burrowowl]

110. Vote for DK

in the primaries.
Talk to people, but ask them what they want first like Unuversl Health Care and show that DK is the only one supporting real UHC, etc. and get them to register and VOTE!

[LaPera]

111. It's DK's message....that needs to be heard by everyone....

And that's why he's running...you think the republicans and their "military industrial complex" & corporate media that are making billions want the people to hear an FDR liberals truth's?

Still, Kucinich is trying and I'm truly happy and proud that he is.

Of course he can't win against that kind of money & power...but I, who support another progressive, want him out there trying and being there.

http://kucinich.us/

Read some truths!

http://johnedwards.com/

[dsa]

112. No

He's too far left to win a national election.

[LaPera]

114. So was FDR? As the republicans systemically are destroying every aspect of the "New Deal"

which they never voted for and despise. One has to take a stand somewhere...unpopular ideas need to be expressed.

Social Security, minimum wage, unemployment insurance, child labor laws, job safety, the right to form unions, health care, pensions, education, eight hour days, forty hour work week, overtime pay, vacation & sick pay. Along with other ideas that came from "liberals" later...equal rights, child care, being against wars for profit, caring for our environment, etc. etc....Habeas corpus is gone!

People were beaten and died for what you & I enjoy today, and that's absolutely & methodically being striped from us each day and is not being address by almost no one else. Give DK a break.

Using the republican imperialistic wars for profit are purposely gutting every domestic program as their excuse...Constantly planting fear in us to get away with it.

Is this what being "too liberal" means?

We've got to fight!

[Perry Logan]

118. Dennis is totally electable, as is any Democrat

All our candidates are great. But the truth is, we could put up a dog in 2008 and still win.