pinto
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Sat Jul-07-07 12:23 AM
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Who will pardon George W. Bush? |
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Our current president dances around responsibility like a schoolboy caught at some puerile prank. Eager and willing to escape culpability, it falls to others to take the fall. And they do. He blithely goes on, unencumbered by accountability.
As well as he has done this dance for most of his adult life, though, the office and the responsibility it confers carries a weight. President Bush refers to it obliquely in acknowledging the hope that he will be judged by history, not current events.
Culpability knows no time line. And responsibility is something you live with day-to-day, not delegate or relegate to subordinates or the future.
For George W. Bush there is no pardon. And, in all political reality, there is no commutation for his sentence (and ours) of his established term of office.
He will leave, come January of 2009, paroled from his office, free of the constraints he probably has come to hate, but not free of his own history.
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Sat Jul-07-07 12:28 AM
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1. I dunno, but look at this UCKY picture of him on today's Alaska Report... |
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George Bush and Pete Domenici=ACK!!!!=
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Sat Jul-07-07 01:07 AM
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9. I've Never said This Before, But OMG!!!!! |
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I defy ANYONE to caption this one!
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Sat Jul-07-07 12:46 PM
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17. Come on Pete, smell my fart, like roses isn't it. |
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Sat Jul-07-07 02:16 AM
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11. Oy. And Domenici has apparently taken a small step back from his repubfest. |
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Sat Jul-07-07 12:31 AM
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2. The next Democratic President. |
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They would do it to ensure that they had the same treatment if they were convicted of something.
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Sat Jul-07-07 12:34 AM
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3. But the Dems refuse to even charge him, |
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off the table and all that BS.
To think the Rabid Reich would give a reach around is beyond wishful thinking.
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Sat Jul-07-07 12:42 AM
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4. Yes, and that is exactly |
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what I base my opinion on. All these "Washington" people like to bad mouth mouth each other in public, but in the end they are so similiar it is scary.
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Sat Jul-07-07 12:50 AM
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6. Two sides of the same coin. |
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I have in the past, and will continue to, support the Dem's nominations in a lesser of two evils sense.
But the denial of third, fourth, etc, parties by the dominate two, does not serve our nation's interests well.
There is no party who can hold their feet to the fire and demand accountability.
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Sat Jul-07-07 12:45 AM
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5. Sorry, I don't buy that. I realize you're making the (D) = (R) argument, |
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but I don't think it holds. Especially in 2008. Especially in the office of the President.
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Sat Jul-07-07 12:53 AM
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7. I don't think they equal each other |
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per say as to their beliefs and ideological viewpoints, but when it comes to protecting themselves, then yes I think they are very similar. Case in point: Is it not just totally screwed up that Scooter was Mark Rich's attorney. It is almost like they are one big dysfunctional family.
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Sat Jul-07-07 01:01 AM
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8. I'm sorry pinto but I don't think it is |
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the D=R argument. They are very different in their objectives and unfortunately they are entrenched in their positions which allows no real alternative.
They are dancing a grand waltz around each other when we need a slam dance that will never come. One to clear the floor of those dancing to the tune of a piper who would just as soon see us dead, betrayed broken, impoverished and homeless, as long as their children attend an ivy league collage.
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Sat Jul-07-07 02:00 AM
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10. I see it differently, from a personal perspective. |
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I live on Social Security and get my health care via Medicare. Both were set in place by Democratic Administrations. One a very wealthy Eastern aristocrat (Roosevelt) and one a large, well established Texas landowner (Johnson).
I understand the frustration about the grand waltz, believe me. It's infuriating at times. Yet I don't see a class struggle in the whole scheme of things. And I don't think politicians sell out the common welfare 'as long as their children attend an ivy league collage'.
Thanks for your post.
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Sat Jul-07-07 02:26 AM
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12. Thank you for describing the |
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easily overlooked perspective to those of us who don't deal with these problems on a daily basis.
I have been blessed with good health, and at 43, never having received anything but rejection anytime I applied for government services, I have a certain disregard for their effectiveness. I support complete coverage for all medical needs (what exactly do insurance companies provide for except their own profit?)and I hope we can move forward on this, and many other issues.
I know the Democratic party is on the side of progress on these issues, but we have a deadlock that both sides can use for shelter when no forward progress occurs.
It will not change in my lifetime, unfortunately, but I think the plurality of political parties in the other 24 industrialized nations who have socialized medicine may have helped overcome some of the obstacles we find ourselves with.
Pardon my piss poor spelling, HS drop out here.
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Sat Jul-07-07 02:31 AM
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13. The deadlock is frustrating as hell. Yet I think it *will* change in your lifetime. |
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And mine. Dyed in the wool optimist here.
:thumbsup:
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Sat Jul-07-07 12:38 PM
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16. HRC will readily oblige just like "her husband" allowed Poppy's records to remain secret. n/t |
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Edited on Sat Jul-07-07 12:38 PM by ShortnFiery
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