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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 01:54 PM
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Libby - Plame outing - What I want to know is why won't Dems call it what it is: TREASON!
Edited on Sat Jul-07-07 01:55 PM by HardWorkingDem
This is one thing that really, really baffles me. I simply can't get over why no Democrat with spine will call the Plame outing for what it is: treason.

There is ample evidence to point out that her name was let fly for pure political gain and what it really is is treason, but no Dem will stand up and say this scary word that starts with "T". Why?

It's like their running away from the word "lie" when it comes to the Bushies - we get "misleading", "misled", "confusion", "disinformation", but never "LIE". It's time to get off the fear and start saying what things really are.

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 01:57 PM
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1. Actually, many have referred to it as such...
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 01:58 PM
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2. Exactly. Call it treason and make the other side explain why it isn't. n/t
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 02:35 PM
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9. I agree completely
Just keep saying it over and over until it catches on. They do the same thing - cut-and run, flip-flop, liberal media - to name a few.

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 02:00 PM
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3. Hillary called it
"politicization of national security intelligence". Does six pack Joe even begin to understand that statement? In fact her entire released statement, as read by KO, was gibberish. I've seen her talking to crowds and she keeps it simple. But that statement is sure to fly over the heads of 90% of the public.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 02:01 PM
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4. Short answer...
Nancy would have to clean off her table again!
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 02:14 PM
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5. Completely accurate
and I recently wrote a letter to the Times calling it just that. Of course, it never got published.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 02:17 PM
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6. There's part of your answer..
The media is part of the problem, working as a propaganda machine
for corporate and Bushinc interests.

As for the Dems: cowed or bought.

Sue
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 02:26 PM
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7. No argument here
though some Dems are not bought on all issues.
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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 02:29 PM
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8. for the same reason that "impeachment is off the table"
The Dems are terrified of being seen as "strident" and "overly partisan". Yet the neoCons are strident, partisan, and under-handed in the extreme, which certainly has not hurt them politically. We're in a boxing match with one hand tied behind our back while our opponent repeatedly kicks us in the balls.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 02:49 PM
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10. You have described it perfectly!
In general our side seems to go all a-quiver at the prospect of actually using simple, strong language to talk about their opponents. They're scared to death that if they use the word "treason", some neocon shill will shout and stamp their feet.

Of course, the neocon shills will continue shouting and stomping their feet, no matter what we do or what we don't do. That is what they do -- and it has worked very well for them, particularly since the cowed Democrats are afraid to stand up to it. In the meantime they will lose their base, and will continue to get no respect from any quarter because they do not appear to stand for anything.

There is no more room for triangulation. The fate of our country and in fact the fate of the whole earth are at stake, and we have "leaders" who insist on making absurd political calculations that have demonstrably failed utterly -- even on their own terms.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 04:00 PM
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11. They should also be pointing out that Brewster Jennings was also exposed.
I'm sure it takes a long time to establish a front. Where's the outrage over their exposure? Were any other agents' lives in jeopardy?
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 08:13 PM
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13. Report on damage is "classified"...
The only thing I have ever heard is that the report on the damage caused by the Plame outing is "classified", but that an assessment was done.

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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 04:40 PM
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12. I should think y'all would get tired of saying Democrats have no spine
Edited on Sat Jul-07-07 04:49 PM by Perry Logan
Jesus H. Christ, we get the point: the Democrats who got elected are all craven cowards--even the ones who served in Viet Nam--and you're the bravest, toughest guy in the world.

They're doing everything all wrong, and you know exactly what they're doing wrong, and if you were in Congress you'd totally do everything perfectly right, and the whole world would swoon over how awesome you are and marvel at your courage, and all the girls would want to sleep with you, and you'd show those evil Republicans what for and defeat them easily.

Gotchya. Now do you PLEASE have any fresh material?
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 08:15 PM
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14. In a way you are right, however.....
taking over leadership largely because of the failures of the opposing party isn't too much to crow about.

As I told a good friend the other day, in each of the past presidential races since the Mondale race, I still can't believe the Dems didn't do much better.
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StopThief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 11:05 PM
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15. Because "the outer" was. . .
Richard Armitage who was from the Colin Powell's State Department and was NOT for the Iraq War.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 11:11 PM
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16. Please do some follow up with David Shuster of MSNBC...
As Shuster has broken his back trying to do the last week or so, Armitage WAS NOT the only leaker in the Libby arm of all this; Cheney most likely was.

Go to Crooksandliars.com or any other liberal blog and you can see Shuster try to correct this same thought over and over again.
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 12:16 AM
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17. The euphemisms are the only thing between them and their duty to impeach.
Edited on Sun Jul-08-07 12:21 AM by pat_k
If they spoke the truth in plain terms they'd have to impeach.

But mpeachment is off the table.

So they can't speak the truth.

If they did, they'd have to impeach.

And impeachment is off the table. . .
They've trapped themselves in a nightmare of euphemism and doublespeak. When a truth happens to pass their lips, they sound like morally confused, mealy-mouthed morons. ("Bush and Cheney are torturing; But we Wouldn't even THINK of Impeaching them.")
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 01:18 AM
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18. I can only ass/u/me....
they're either cowards or complicit! :shrug:
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