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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 04:18 PM
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Al Gore 2008 endorsement. Will it sway your opinion?
Ok, what if Gore decides to endorse one of the Dem candidates. Will this sway your opinion one way or another. Why or why not?

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 04:20 PM
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1. Well, I'm hoping he will jump in. But certainly, I'd give his choice weight. NT
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 04:21 PM
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2. no, and neither would anyone else's endorsement. I make my own decisions, however,
I do hope Gore runs


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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 04:21 PM
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3. I doubt he will. If he doesn't want to be in politics I doubt he would
support one candidate over another. He'll be a good sport and let the Democratic Leadership Race play out on its own. IMHO

If he did..it could sway a few people that way.
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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 04:25 PM
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4. He endorsed Howard Dean, so it's not new for him
However, he might not endorse this time around. Who knows.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 04:25 PM
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5. I hope he surprises us ...SOON!
However, whoever he endorses...well, you have to think that maybe he might have some real inside information about the candidate, y' know? Which means, he probably would NOT endorse Hill, (fingers crossed)...I suspect his choice would be quite interesting...maybe if it isn't himself, maybe it would be someone who isn't even in yet!!!!
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 04:26 PM
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6. I'd give it consideration, surely....
but there is a line in the sand I will not cross for him or anyone. I will not vote for someone who is in the DLC. Not ever. Not for enyone.

But, I'd give it some thought, for sure, if the candidate he endorses is not DLC.

TC
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:06 AM
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16. Gore helped set up the DLC - back in the day.
That was after the 1984 election - when Reagan-Bush won 49 states.

People like Gore and Clinton wanted to win back the Whitehouse from the right.

In 1988, Gore was the DLC's preferred candidate.

In 1992, Clinton was the DLC's preferred candidate.

But of course a lot has changed in the years since then.


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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:10 AM
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25. Yes, he did. I am aware of that. But, he has since come out with
and agenda that is majorly anti-corporatist. I think he realizes what he did wrong, and has made an effort to change that.

That having been said, if he were to run, and even bring on-staff any of his old DLC-er pals (Brazile, majorly), I could not support him. I couldn't. If he were to re-align with the DLC, and triangulate his message to the Right or mealy-mouth like he did in 2000, I know I couldn't support him.

I love the new Al Gore. The angry one. The gutsy one. The one who is willing to take on the world for what he believes. THAT Gore gets my vote. No one, and I mean NO ONE who even cozies up to the DLC will get my vote again. Never again.

TC
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 04:31 PM
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7. Yes.
I value his opinion highly.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 04:32 PM
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8. It won't sway it but, It would be important for the candidate. however,
many endorsements, especially by active politicians is a I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine. The candidate probably has certain understandings with who endorses them. Not all but, many,.
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Soulshine Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 04:59 PM
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9. I defiantly agree that would be that Candidate's lucky day!
I went and looked up a bunch of interviews over the last 3 months and I don't think he'll run this election year...unless he really doesn't like the candidate we pick (I don't think he likes Hillary). I take him at his word that he's not thinking like that now. I mean I don't think I'd want to gear up for another campaign so soon either, plus he'd have to divert alot of time and energy from something I think he feels in of imminent importances. Maybe more important that being President right now.

On the other hand you can do alot as President, but you can do alot as former vp Al Gore. Any Dem nominee to get elected I'm sure would have an open door to Al Gore. I think he will endorse someone, probably in exchange for their promise to work with him on these Global Warming Issues.

As to if it would sway my vote, I guess it would depend on Why he said he'd endorsed them and who he endorsed. Would it make up my mind? I don't think any one thing should make up your mind about a candidate.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 05:50 PM
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10. Does anyone think
his endorsement of Dean actually helped Dean? I found the situation rather confusing at the time.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 05:53 PM
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11. The M$M has far too much power - they showed "the Dean Scream" every five minutes.
However, I also believe the average American is placing much less credence to what "the talking heads" on The Idiot Box are telling them. Still, we need media de-consolidation more than anything to ensure the FAIRNESS of the political process.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:18 AM
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18. It played up Dean's already high expectations, which was a problem when he didn't meet them
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 03:20 AM by Hippo_Tron
Dean would've done well to play down his expectations and let the press spend the first few weeks of January talking about how John Kerry was doing really well in the Iowa polls. Then he should've had Gore announce his endorsement right before the Iowa Caucus. It could have been very helpful if timed right.
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dsa Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 05:56 PM
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12. No
I don't care what politicians think about their colleagues.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 06:02 PM
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13. It may not sway it, but it'll certainly have an effect
I trust Gore's judgement and if he says he thinks someone would be the best choice for President, I would be a fool not to take that into account.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 06:17 PM
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14. Depends who he endorsed
If he endorsed one of the war enablers, I would certainly question his judgement and ignore it.

If he endorsed a non-war enabling candidate, I would take the money I have saved up to donate to his campaign ($3,000 each from me and my fiance) and put it towards that campaign).
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:14 AM
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17. Al Gore has consistently opposed this war
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 03:14 AM by Apollo11
The Iraq issue was one of the main reasons why Al Gore endorsed Howard Dean in December 2003.

Al Gore endorses Howard Dean

Gore: 'One candidate clearly now stands out'

CNN.com - December 9, 2003


NEW YORK (CNN) -- Al Gore endorsed Howard Dean's bid for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination on Tuesday, substantially deepening Dean's fast-developing drive for dominance in the nine-candidate field of would-be challengers to President Bush.

"I'm very proud and honored to endorse Howard Dean to be the next president of the United States of America," Gore said.

(...)

Gore also praised Dean's opposition to the U.S.-led war in Iraq. The former vice president called the Iraq war a "catastrophic mistake" by the Bush administration, a move that leaves the United States less effective in the nation's battle against terrorism. He said the United States is now in a "quagmire" in Iraq.

"He was the only major candidate who made the correct judgment about the Iraq war," Gore said. "And he had the insight and the courage to say and do the right thing. And that's important because those judgments -- that basic common sense -- is what you want in a president."

(...)

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/09/elec04.prez.gore.dean/

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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 11:56 PM
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15. I certainly can't see him endorsing Hillary
but I'd definitely be interested in whom he backed and would value and respect his opinion.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:24 AM
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19. IMO, he won't endorse anyone
All of the three candidates are more or less the same on environmental issues. Gore wants access to the next President so he can persuade them to pass tough environmental legislation. The worst thing he could do is jump onto the wrong bandwagon and have another candidate end up getting the nomination.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:29 AM
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20. only if he endorses himself
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some guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:33 AM
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21. No.
I'm content to be supporting the candidate I think is best on all the issues, regardless of endorsements or "electability."
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olshak Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:59 AM
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22. PLEASE AL.........RUN FOR PRESIDENT! n/t
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:04 AM
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23. It would be an influencing factor n/t
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:07 AM
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24. If he and Feingold both endorsed the same person and it wasn't John Edwards
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 09:08 AM by Heaven and Earth
That would make me wonder. Other than that, not really.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:31 AM
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26. No.
I like to make up my own mind. I like to look at the candidates, research their positions and records, and make an informed choice. I am not so insecure in my ability to do so that I need to rely on someone else's opinion. I don't find someone else's opinion to be more valid than my own.

If I were unsure, if I couldn't make up my own mind, I might look to see who was endorsing each candidate. But then, in Gore's case, I'd have to ask myself:

Is he endorsing this candidate because of environmental record/platform, or because of DLC connections?

In the end, I trust myself, and my own judgment, more than I trust anyone else's. Endorsements don't carry weight with me.

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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:39 AM
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27. Geez, I hope he doesn't endorse
"before a single vote is cast". That would be undemocratic.
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