Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Latest Christian to be persecuted in America

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:19 AM
Original message
The Latest Christian to be persecuted in America
A man said he failed the Massachusetts Bar Exam because he refused to answer a question about Gay Marriage, and claims in a federal lawsuit the test violated his rights and targeted his religious beliefs.

http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=1009871

And what would Jesus do? File a 9.75 million dollar lawsuit and defend himself. What's that about having a fool for a client.

David Yas, editor of Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly says the suit is "idiotic" and that dunne is missing the point about what it means to be a lawyer.

WILL THE PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS IN THIS COUNTRY EVER END??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:29 AM
Response to Original message
1. I hope the court finds he doesn't have standing.
Like the rest of us godless heathen taxpayers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:39 AM
Response to Original message
2. He doesn't HAVE to be a lawyer..
if he can't in good conscience uphold the law...:shrug: I guess he didn't think about that one when he was spending all that time and money in law school..:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:02 AM
Response to Original message
3. I guess he slept through his ethics class
...at his prestigious Boston law school. I'm pretty sure they discussed how a lawyer must separate his personal feelings from issues surrounding his client. Perhaps he can take the exam in a state that doesn't recognize gay marriage (yet).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. Or he can be a Pharmacist at Wal-Mart. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:01 PM
Response to Original message
5. Surprisingly, this doofus self-identifies as a Democrat
Which I take every bit as seriously as his claim to have attented a "prestigious" law school. Anyway, from the story:

“Yesterday, Jane got drunk and hit (her spouse) Mary with a baseball bat, breaking Mary’s leg, when she learned that Mary was having an affair with Lisa,” the bar exam question stated. “As a result, Mary decided to end her marriage with Jane in order to live in her house with Philip, Charles and Lisa. What are the rights of Mary and Jane?”

Dunne claims the question was used as a “screening device” to identify and penalize him for “refusing to subscribe to a liberal ideology based on ‘secular humanism,’ ”according to his lawsuit.

“Homosexual conduct is inconsistent with (Dunne’s) Christian practices, beliefs and values, which are protected by the First Amendment,” the lawsuit states.

“I respect people with alternative lifestyles, and we must do that in a civil society,” Dunne said. “I just have a different opinion that millions of people share with me, and I believe that my opinion should be respected just as much as (pro-gay) opinions. I have no intent in spreading hatred or discrimination.”


Mr. Dunne seems a bit confused about the difference between civil and religious institutions, methinks. Until the church of his choice begins licensing lawyers to practice in Massachusetts state courts, he really needs to learn the rules of the game he wants to play.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Oh but wouldn't that be a goal of those
who can't quite figure out the symbiosis of separation of church and state and tax exempt status for churches? Having churches licensing lawyers? Isn't that what the constitution haters at Regents University do?

And a nine million dollar lawsuit. Damn that is so christian.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
7. When you strip it all down, isn't a lawyer just a hired advocate before
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 04:42 PM by WCGreen
the courts...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:51 PM
Response to Original message
8. Little Mr. Holier than Thow
wasn't being asked for his opinion on the law or for his religious beliefs. He was being asked what the legal rights of tow citizens were under the umbrella of MA law. Perhaps he should seek to take the bar in Alalbama where these kinds of issues probably don't exist under their laws.

What a twit. He definitely picked the wrong profession.

Mz Pip
:dem:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Please not here in AL
There are a lot of liberal lawyers here (we have a big trial lawyers contingency), so while he might fit in with the general population...we lawyers would kill him here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Sorry
I know there are good liberal people in Alabama. I just think of Jeff Sessions and sort of do the bad thing of stereotyping when I'm not thinking.

My son is a lawyer and has a rainbow ribbon on his backpack. He has it to express solidarity with the Gay community. He's liberal, straight and a prosecutor who would probably kick this guys ass if provoked.

Mz Pip
:dem:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:53 PM
Response to Original message
10. I'm Catholic?
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 10:12 PM by mentalsolstice
When I took my bar exams (took two, passed both), could I have refused to answer the family law questions based on the Vatican's stance on divorce? Could I have said that the hypothetical heterosexual couple in question could not be divorced...or have refused to answer the question?

On edit: he could have expressed his personal opinion in his answer, as long as he appropriately discussed Mass. state law on divorce, separation of property and child custody, which is all the same regardless of the sexual orientation of the parties involved. All the bar examiners look for is the rule of law applied to the facts. That it was a gay couple in the hypothetical, is simply a diversion. This guy got diverted in the worst way possible.

If you fail, some states require you take the entire exam over, others only require you retake the part you missed points on.

The evil side of me hopes this guy has to retake the entire thing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 01:06 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC