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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:26 PM
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Rasmussen: 39% favor impeaching Bush
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/39_favor_impeaching_bush

Thirty-nine percent (39%) of Americans now believe that President Bush should be impeached and removed from office. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 49% disagree while 12% are not sure.

Those figures reflect a slight increase in support for impeachment over the past year-and-a-half. In December 2005, 32% believed that President George W. Bush should be impeached and removed from office. Fifty-eight percent (58%) took the opposite view at that time.

A majority of Democrats (56%) now believe the President should be impeached. That’s up from 49% in the earlier survey. Twenty-eight percent (28%) of Democrats remain opposed to impeachment.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:31 PM
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1. Pitiful
should be higher
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:31 PM
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2. I call BS. Just look how the RNC infilitrated the DoJ and turned it into an arm
of the GOP. Do you really think that rove wouldn't look to interfere with public opinion by NOT infiltrating the pollsters?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:34 PM
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4. Though I don't have time to find them, other polls indicate much higher support.
Like, around 45%.

As a swift reminder to those who tout Rasmussen polls in support of their candidate du jour, this is why we don't pay any attention to Rasmussen polls.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:45 PM
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9. Ras's election polling has been far more accurate than most the last 2 elections
His approval numbers stuff hasn't been that great though.

ARG has it around 46% for Bush & 54% for Cheney (just came out)

http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/

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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:36 PM
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6. Hitting nail with hammer Mod Mom, i've been thinking the same thing!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:44 PM
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8. An EXAMPLE: Fitz Wenzel (Suppressed Noe/Coingate Story b4 the '04 now w Zogby)
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 12:49 PM by mod mom
Weird...He allegedly suppresses Coingate story prior to the '04 Election in Ohio and is now working for Zogby. What's up with this?


Saving Ohio

Did a reporter with GOP ties suppress a story that could have cost Bush the White House?

By Bill Frogameni

Pages 1 2


October 6, 2005 | In April 2005, the Blade newspaper of Toledo, Ohio, began publishing a remarkable series of articles about a well-connected Republican donor, Tom Noe, chair of the Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign for Lucas County, which encompasses Toledo. The Blade, which had won a Pulitzer Prize for reporting in 2004, discovered that Noe, a Toledo coin dealer, was investing $50 million for the state through the novel practice of coin speculation: buying and selling rare coins to turn a profit. Noe, the Blade revealed, could not account for $10 million to $13 million in the fund.

The paper also divulged that Noe had been placed under federal investigation for allegedly laundering money -- perhaps state money -- to the Bush campaign. The Blade's initial reports on Noe started a chain reaction of related scandals for Ohio's dominant Republicans. Recently, Gov. Bob Taft pleaded no contest to accepting several gifts from influence peddlers -- including Noe -- without reporting them, as law requires. Noe is currently the subject of 13 investigations.

In November 2004, Lucas County was among the most hotly contested areas in the most hotly contested state. Kerry won the county by 45,000 votes, but George W. Bush went on to win Ohio by less than 120,000 votes, which swung the election for him.


But Bush's reelection may have been made possible by a Blade reporter with close ties to the Republican Party who reportedly knew about Noe's potential campaign violations in early 2004 but suppressed the story.

According to several knowledgeable sources, the Blade's chief political columnist, Fritz Wenzel, was told of Noe's potential campaign violations as early as January 2004. But according to Blade editors, Wenzel never gave the paper the all-important tip in early 2004.



-SNIP
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/10/06/ohio/index.html



Zogby International spokesman Fritz Wenzel said that was the case in July when Syracuse Post-Standard reporter Glenn Coin wrote a story about Vice President Cheney’s visit to Utica for a fundraiser for Meier. Wenzel was quoted extensively in the article.

http://www.zogby.com/soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=13587

and WENZEL"S SON WORKS FOR THE OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY. hmmh...just another coincidence-right?
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:34 PM
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3. I'm sure the number was a LOT lower in '98.
Didn't stop the Goopers from pressing forward.

Just sayin'.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:35 PM
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5. It was around 25%. But they DID pay a price for it.
They lost seats, if you remember. Of course, it did, in part, help them win the Presidency, but that was more Gore's blunder in running away from Clinton and picking Lieberman as VP than their actual impeachment that caused that to happen.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:47 PM
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10. I think they oughta impeach Cheney first.
And not just because I've seen polling that indicates Americans are more receptive to it, but also because the SOB oughta go first.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:50 PM
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11. I'd agree with that on all counts.
And on the political count as well. Going after Cheney is not going to seem as radical. Of course, pinning something specifically on Cheney, legally speaking, might prove to be more troublesome, as most executive actions come at the discretion of the President, not the VP. The Plame scandal, in my opinion, is likely going to be our strongest option, and there's not enough on-the-record evidence yet to support that.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:13 PM
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12. And why the lying, weasely Abu Gonzo hasn't been impeached AND convicted yet...
I have no idea. It wouldn't be that hard to get 67 votes in the Senate, would it?

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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:46 PM
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14. Yes, it would.
By ANY stretch it would. Cheney would have to be caught with a smoking gun after shooting a guy in the face.

Oh... wait a minute... :D

Seriously though, politics being what they are, the burden of evidence is going to be HUGE for any Republican. Cheney would have to be a whale of an albatross with completely incontrovertible evidence of a very, VERY serious crime in order for them to convict. I'm very doubtful they would over the Libby scandal.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 02:16 PM
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15. Picking Lieberman was a big mistake...
The guy was against any recount right from the start and that was siezed upon by the GOP to interfere with the counting in Dade County...
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:44 PM
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7. Once the charges were actually put out for...............
the american people to see that percentage would rise dramatically.
That is only the 39% that know whats going on. The average person doesn't have a clue because what little news they get is from the evening news.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:33 PM
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13. They need to reframe the question
"If Richard Cheney is first removed from office, are you in favor of impeaching George Bush?"

A lot of the people voting no have a President Cheney nightmare playing in their heads.
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