How far back do they want to turn the clock?

[LuckyTheDog]

I had a talk recently about how far back the American far right wants to turn the clock. I said that the dream of the far right seems to be returning to a pre-New Deal America.

But a friend said that what they really want is to get back to what America was like before Teddy Roosevelt signed the Pure Food and Drug Act, the Meat Inspection Act and the Antiquities Act (all in 1906).

If my friend is right, then the goal of the right is to repeal virtually the entire 20th century.

What do people here think? Is the goal of the right to create a pre-FDR America or a pre-TR America?

[marmar]

1. Pre-Lincoln?

:scared:

[OlderButWiser]

2. What was so good...

...about the 20th century anyways? You know, other than polio vaccines, antibiotics, man on the moon... crap like that.

[CrispyQ]

3. Pre 1776 is where they want to take us. Back to the days of King George. ..nt

[melody]

7. I love the synchronicity of this

Four of us, at the same moment, equated not only 1776 but 1215.

[ixion]

4. about 700 years

back to the pre-renaissance days of the demonic perspective and feudal lords. :grr:

[librechik]

5. previous to 1215, when the Magna Carta, the monument to Habeas corpus,

was writ.

And we can all be serfs and humble tradespeople, and give due respect to droit de seigneur--"The Right of The King" to screw us over until he's tired and then throw us in the moat.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

8. Was that time known as The Dark Ages? nt

[librechik]

11. that 's right. The date is often described as the beginning of the Renaissance

so the previous centuries are the Middle or Dark Ages, or what Cheney calls "getting Mediaeval on your ass."

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

16. Seems like a good fit for this crew. nt

[melody]

6. 1776

Some days, I think 1215.

[applegrove]

9. In the 1800s people were so poor and desperate to have two cents to rub

together that they did stuff like joined the army just to get a salary. I'm sure that is up there in the reasons why they want to turn back the clock so far.

[MissWaverly]

10. yes, sounds right/ including the right of women to vote

pre-Teddy Roosevelt definitely.

[Warpy]

12. 1600, I think

because national borders were finally set, for the most part, kings reigned with the permission of their gawd, the peasantry were starved and beaten and no threat to order, and the lesser nobles had learned their places at the pleasure of the king through bitter experience in the centuries before.

Even the pope was less of a threat to them as new sects of Protestants popped up overnight like mushrooms.

Plus, the new territory and peoples to plunder around the world seemed to be in endless supply.

[Sparkly]

13. Hard to say -- I think it's a fictitious "time" that never really was.

Definitely before the 1960s, that's for sure.

[Ian David]

14. You're all over-reacting. They don't want to go THAT far back.

They just want to turn back the clock to 1935.

That is, 1935 in Germany.

[ClassWarfare2008]

15. I'm thinking pre-Civil War.

This time though, they won't do anything as blatantly obvious as enslaving one race of people. By eliminating the Middle Class, it will eventually be The Elite and the slaves.

I didn't choose my username at random. The Pukes use "Class Warfare" as a code word, but it's those motherfuckers who have been waging it against all of us for the last 27 years.

[Clintonista2]

17. Great question!

I've wondered about this too. To put it into context, I truly believe that many of them still consider the idea that the earth is round, to be a rather "Liberal" view. The Dark Age would be ideal for many of them, because it was a time in which if you didn't like reality, you didn't have to face it. Cowards.

[tom_paine]

18. pre-1776. pre-Age of Enlightnement

No question. When religion was king and the peasant scum knew their place. They also knew what awaited them if they poked their upstart heads up above the herd.

[CK_John]

19. 1801! n/t

[mentalsolstice]

20. Pre-FDR?

I don't have the exact quote, but Hillary said when she first got to Capitol Hill, she took BushCo's actions personally, that they were trying to undo Big Dog's accomplishments. However,she later came to realize they were trying to undo everything going back to FDR.