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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 10:53 AM
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Hillary uses story on stump that Vilsack had routinely told
http://www.altoonaherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/NEWS09/707110376

Hillary uses story Vilsack had told
By THOMAS BEAUMONT
REGISTER STAFF WRITER

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has borrowed an anecdote about the war in Iraq from former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack.

Clinton told an audience of more than 300 people in Des Moines Tuesday about Bruce Smith, the West Liberty man killed in Iraq in 2003 when his helicopter was shot down.

Smith and his widow, Oliva Smith, were fixtures in Vilsack's standard speech during his brief campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination this year.

"Bruce chose to save his crew. And while Bruce and his co-pilot were killed, 17 of his crew members survived," Clinton said, even borrowing Vilsack's phrasing, during her speech in Des Moines about ending the war. "His wife, Oliva, has said, in those few seconds those 17 men needed Bruce more than she and her children would need him for the rest of their lives."
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 10:55 AM
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1. cool. Since Vilsack now works for Clinton, I'm sure he advised her to do it.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 10:59 AM
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2. Thanks for posting, thats great!
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:02 AM
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3. Those DLCers are joined @ the hip
so it is OK to use each others stories.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:04 AM
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4. Is this a criticism...?
eom
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:04 AM
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5. More from the article
"Clinton said Vilsack had told her the story, one he often used to end his remarks. Vilsack, as governor, called to convey condolences to Oliva Smith, who told him witnesses said her husband maneuvered the helicopter to protect the passengers after it had been hit. Smith and his co-pilot were among 15 aboard who died in the crash."

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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:06 AM
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7. well if she gives him credit
then not sure what the point of this thread is.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:05 AM
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6. If that anecdotal story illustrates a point that Senator Clinton is trying
to make in her stump speech, then she can use it. What is the problem? Gov. Vilsack is a supporter of the Senator and he certainly doesn't "own" the story. The story is a hero story and I am sure that the Senator is using it appropriately. I don't understand the insinuation that there is something wrong with this. There isn't.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:06 AM
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8. I'm not following what the point of the Smith story is. Is it just a nice >
> story about a heroic Iowan you can tell to warm up an Iowa audience?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:17 AM
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9. Did she raise her hand and say she voted for the war...
...after she mentioned the story. Uh...probably not.


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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:35 AM
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12. She actually voted to give the office of the presidency the authority
to use the military under certain conditions and with judgment, consistent with the UN weapons inspectors' view that significant threats might still have existed at that time.


The resolution was going to pass.
Passing the resolution might have prompted Hussein to stop hiding things from the UN.
If that resolution had failed, any terrorist attack from any source on the US would have been directly laid at the feet of those who opposed the resolution for tying the hands of the President.

Let's blame the real culprit: George Bush abandoned judgment, intelligence, advice, pressure, and sanity, to do what he did when he did it.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:10 PM
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13. In a Democracy, bad moves are the resulls of multiple failures
That bill was weak and did not force Bush to do anything. It only handed over the power to declare war to the President.

Voting for it from our side of the aisle only gave the damned thing legitamacy.

And one should never vote for something simply because one thinks it will pass.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:19 AM
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10. Plagiarism? Did she attribute?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:21 AM
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11. did you read posts 1, 5, and 7?
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