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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:13 PM
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House passes bill to withdraw troops from Iraq

House passes bill to withdraw troops from Iraq

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Defying a White House veto threat, the U.S. House of Representatives on Thursday approved legislation to bring combat troops out of Iraq by April 1, 2008.

By a vote of 223-201, the Democratic-controlled House approved the legislation in the hope it will pressure the Senate to attach a similar mandatory troop withdrawal timetable to a military policy bill it is debating.

Passage of the House bill marked the third time this year it has voted for timetables to end the U.S. involvement in the war that is now in its fifth year. Two previous efforts either died in the Senate or were vetoed by President George W. Bush.

The measure that passed on Thursday would tell the Pentagon to begin withdrawing combat troops within four months and complete the redeployment by April 1.

Under the bill, an unspecified number of U.S. soldiers would stay in Iraq to train Iraqi soldiers, conduct counter-terrorism operations and protect U.S. diplomats.

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John Kerry: "I urge my colleagues to seize this opportunity"

The Senate must pass a bill for withdrawal.

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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:15 PM
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1. Who are the soon-to-be EX Dems that voted AGAINST this?
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 06:17 PM by truebrit71
FUCKING DINOS....


Jeebus I just found out that Kucinch voted AGAINST this.... Good grief...
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:21 PM
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3. I just noticed that Kucinch voted against a timetable
why did he do that? does he just want to end funding? Could a DU'er answer that for me?
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:25 PM
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10. yep that's why and I've lost a lot of respect for him because of it
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:29 PM
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11. Why?
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 07:29 PM by bigwillq
B/C DK wants to end the war NOW instead of on October 1 or April 1? :shrug:

He wants to cut the funding, which can potentially end the war ASAP.

At least someone is standing up for what he believes in and he's being consistent in his voting. He voted against the last bill too b/c that one would continue to fund this illegal war and had a timetable a few months away.

He's for immediate withdrawal.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:54 PM
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14. The first reason is that by voting against the only bill that could actually end the war
he is actually helping the war continue. No matter what point he's trying to make, his vote against it has the same practical effect as any repukes. The second reason is I think it's dumb to pull out our troops immediately just because the war is wrong. The whole reason I believe the war was wrong is because innocent lives are being unnecessarily lost so i think if we don't try to prevent genocide and ensuing chaos with a responsible transferral of power than we've lost sight of the overall goal.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 08:03 PM
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15. This bill won't end the won't
I don't think it will pass the Senate and even if it does, we won't have a veto proof majority.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:23 PM
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17. and does he want to lose to Rebublicans for the next 10 years
Cutting the funding is a horrible political move. It will be used against all that vote to cut funding and in some cases it will be successful, thus handing congress back to Repubs. An no one here should take offense at this. Everyone of the politicians has played politics with the war votes, from voting for it to authorizing funding. DK may be the only exception but if you want to be a minority party with 25% or less of the leadership then he is the guy.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:31 PM
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12. He wants to end the war ASAP
He thinks by cutting funding, we can do that.

It may not be possible to do that but at least he's consistent; he's been singing this same tune for awhile now. And at least he is one of the few DEMS that says we need to get out ASAP, which I agree 100 percent with.
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Heath Hatcher Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:34 PM
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7. Here's the list of ten Chickenshits (I mean Democrats) that voted againist this bill
-Dan Boren, Oklahoma
-John Barrow, Geogria
-Jim Marshall, Georgia
-Brad Ellsworth, Indiana
-Tim Holden, Pennsylvania
-Chris Carney, Pennsylvania
-Gene Taylor, Mississippi
-Jim Matheson, Utah
-Vic Snyder, Arkansas
-Dennis Kucinich, Ohio

Every single one of those motherfuckers can go to hell, including Kucinich.
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:25 PM
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9. ten dems to add to the hit list for next year's dem primaries
What an embarrassing bunch to have honored with the label Democrat.
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Heath Hatcher Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:48 PM
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13. Embarassing bunch is right
And they can't say that they had to vote down this bill because of the nature of the district they represent because I saw alot of Democrats from conservatives districts voted for this bill. But the one dissapointment of the 10 was Chris Carney from my state of PA. You know people voted for him not because he was a fresh face compared to the incumbent but because he offered a new alternative to just "staying the course" in Iraq.

Guess it didn't take him that long to reneg on that deal. This and his opposition to giving DC a full vote in Congress is really pissing me off.
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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:17 PM
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2. I can safely predict
that it won't past in the Senate. That fucking asshole Liberman will side with the Republicans.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:22 PM
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4. Lieberman should just change parties and be a repig, he is already
on PBS news he is standing behind Lindsay Graham, what a jerk? what is wrong with Connecticut for voting this turncoat in?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:25 PM
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5. It won't even get to a vote in the Senate
with or without Lieberman, there aren't 60 votes for cloture.
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:30 PM
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6. I wonder if Lieberman plans to declare himself a Repuke down...
...the line and jump into the race? Stranger things have happened in politics. :shrug:
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 11:15 PM
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16. even stranger if Conn. re-elects him in 2012 n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:17 PM
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8. Kick! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 07:56 AM
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18. Kick! n/t
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