The Hillary is unelectable argument is simply garbage

[Herman Munster]

She is beating the republicans 16 months before the general election in many polls.

Much of America still thinks of her as the caricature the right wing media has spinned her as. This in effect has drastically lowered her expectations. Once people see her in debates as the pragmatic, poised, intelligent, centrist candidate she is and not this liberal communist boogy monster, she will easily peel away enough republicans and independents to win. She's already winning now and most of America isn't even paying attention.

Fact is I think the republicans are so damaged, we could run a yellow dog now and win. Doesn't matter if it's Obama, Edwards, or Hillary. Whoever wins the nomination will win the presidency.

Vote against Hillary because you don't like her or don't like her positions. But electability is a non-issue. She can win. She will win if nominated.

[rpannier]

1. How can you even say that???

I mean, remember when she ran for the US Senate.

Faux news presented us with 'facts' and we were inundated with polls from a variety of sources that said half of New Yorkers would never vote for her.

And see they were righ...oh...wait...ummmmmmmm...ok...uhhhhh...

on note: I'm an Edwards supporter. I am voting for Edwards.
But, if Hillary is the nominee, I'll vote for her.

[jaksavage]

8. Of course

we will vote the D line
But let's not forget she is an insider.
The voting machines aren't fixed yet and neither are our media.
Vote with your heart in the primary.
Kucinich is the only truth teller.

[Zucca]

2. All of the candidates so far are unelectable.

In an election vs the hair cut, the 911 imposter, the gay sweater wearing grand pa, a mormon, an african american and the rest of this bunch...She looks extremely electable and very intelligent,,,,To qoute Joe Biden....she looks clean!

GO CLINTON! Best man in this race...Gotta tell ya, if Obama was more experienced and a bit more conservative in veiws...He would be appealing to me. As of right now though..Hilary is the best option...bar none.

[earthlover]

9. racist sob

you take all obama has said and done and summarize it with just "an african american"? How friggin blatant can your racism be? I doubt very much if he would be appealing to you if he had more experience! He would still be an African American, right?

And you can't even spell Hillary. Or views.

Go back to school, you Republican tool!

[AndyTiedye]

3. "Beating the Republicans 16 months before the general election in many polls" Doesn't Sound So Good

Bush** has an approval rating of 26%. The Iraq war has a similar approval rating.
People say they want "a democrat" in the White House by double-digit margins.
Yet Hillary Clinton is only leading by a few points, despite the Repiglickins' embrace of the war and the "surge".
That's within stealing range for the Repigs, as we saw in 2000 and 2004.

[Herman Munster]

5. well have no fear

the clinton's will find a way to win and my god if james carville has to reprogram the goddamned diebold machines himself in our favor, so be it. The Clinton's will find a way to win.

[TeamJordan23]

4. Did you read that poll last week, where 52% of people would vote against her. She has no upside. nt

[Herman Munster]

6. did you read the poll today

that she has a 52% approval rating.

[Ethelk2044]

7. Today does not matter. What matters is election day

[Capn Sunshine]

10. I never thought she was unelectable, but her staff has other ideas

If you want to see Hillary muzzled , chained, and diluted to something unrecognizable from the Republican candidate, well, you're backing the right bunch of people.

What they did to Al Gore and then John Kerry was why we're in this mess today.

They still believe in triangulation, and doggedly will pursue this in the general.

So if Hillary gets the nom, we are just screwed.

[MrMickeysMom]

11. Remember when Kerry was more electable than Howard Dean... that backfired

...because they stole the fucking election after our party pushing him out of the picture. I have been so fucking pissed ever since then because believed Dean was a leader who had vision to turn things around

Can I explain about my Hillary view? Thanks.

Sure, it's safer to think Hillary Clinton can win, especially with some of the right wing jag offs. However, we need a visionary with balls that isn't beholding to the corporate string pullers,

I'm not far left, guys, but I don't think all that many people are. There exist a lot of conservative values in my mind- (fiscal responsibility, for example, I scored a 12 on that questionnaire). I think she is more serious about winning than she is in using a capable vision. Meanwhile, we need to:

1) overcome our foreign commitments,
2) acquire security and partnerships within the world community,

she is too much in to the favors of:
1) a world-wide corporatocracy
2) keeping alliance with 3rd party health insurers

I don't like the 180 direction change from the Hillary. I don't trust her. I don't think the world partners who have big stakes and could give us troube trust her. I'm a woman and feminist and I'm saying this.

We have a suck ass image and need someone who can lead us far more than the Hillary.

I wish it weren't so, by the way. :cry: