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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:59 AM
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Kucinich Press Release on Hillary/Edwards Remarks about Excluding Candidates:
http://kucinich.us/node/4807

Clinton, Edwards overheard planning to eliminate other Democratic candidates
Submitted by Press Secretary on Fri, 2007-07-13 01:18.


Unaware that their microphones were still on following an NAACP Presidential Forum in Detroit on Thursday, Senator Hillary Clinton and former Senator John Edwards agreed to try to eliminate other Democratic Presidential candidates from future debates.

According to the Associated Press, "Fox news microphones picked up Clinton and Edwards discussing their desire to limit future joint appearances to exclude some rivals lower in the crowded field."

"We should try to have a more serious and a smaller group," Edwards was overheard telling Clinton, according to the AP.

watch the abc video
http://kucinich.us/node/4807

Clinton agreed, according to the AP. "We've got to cut the number...They're not serious." Clinton added that she thought her campaign and Edwards' had previously been discussing steps to eliminate other candidates. "We've got to get back to it," Clinton told Edwards.

"Candidates, no matter how important or influential they perceive themselves to be, do not have and should not have the power to determine who is allowed to speak to the American public and who is not," said Kucinich.

"Imperial candidates are as repugnant to the American people and to our Democracy as an imperial President."


The Kucinich campaign will immediately take steps to address the planned actions of the Clinton and Edwards campaigns.


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democratsin08 Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:03 AM
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1. this is bad
we dont need any infighting among the candidates. i personally dont think these debates are doing much good anyway. the candidates need to ask each other questions and debate among themselves. these "debates" are just campaign commercials.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:04 AM
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2. Imperial? Moi?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:06 AM
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4. Don't blame one without the other
Edwards initiated the conversation it appears.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:09 AM
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5. Absolutely, he deservs a bigger spanking especially since he's the "little guy champ"
but DK is obviously going after the big fish with the imperial angle, hence the high-collared imagery.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:10 AM
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6. A Very Attractive Blouse, Sir
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:11 AM
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7. Agreed...good hair day, too
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:14 AM
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10. Indeed, Sir
Stern visage, and clothing to match: no question she is onto a good look for the purpose of campaigning for President.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:59 AM
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13. Agreed
She looks very nice in that picture.
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NavyDavy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:06 AM
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3. ok let the circular firing squad begin
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ludwigb Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:11 AM
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8. "imperial" is a little over the top
I wish I was one of Dennis' advisers so I could warn him before moments like this. Still, for the most part Kucinich has very good political instincts--just gotta be more patient.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:12 AM
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9. They were talking in a normal voice in the presence of those other candidates.

Only FAUX could invent something this stupid. I can't believe Kucinich is falling for it.


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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:34 AM
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11. From a guy who refused to debate his primary opponent, this is some baldfaced hypocrisy
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:39 AM
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12. This is the mistake Gore made in the 2000 election
Had he supported the idea of Nader being part of the debates, Nader would have made half his points for him. I realize all these candidates, even mine, have big egos, however, they do cut off their noses to spite their faces when they attempt to do something like this.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:01 PM
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14. Unless Edwards or Clinton are organizing their own debates, they
do NOT have the power to limit these debates. All they can do is ask the organizers. Or not show up themselves if they don't like the rules.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:17 PM
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15. I agree. The $eriou$ ...
narci$$ist$ are Edward$, Clinton and Obama.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:29 PM
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16. This is to be expected from the corporate candidates
in a corporate owned and bought and paid for electoral system.

There is a solution!!

COMPLETE Public Financing of all elections and TAKE BACK OUR AIRWAVES for candidate statements and real, meaningful debates.

Oh, but public financing would cost too much, you say? Check it out, some corporate fucks like Lockheed drop a couple million into the "process" and they take out tens of BILLIONS in pork. How about we cut that shit out!!!

Ah, but money's speech! No problem, for every public candidate, we match dollar for dollar the expenditures of anyone who wants to spend their own (corporate) money for their campaign. Still cheaper than the system we've got where the corporations have bought and paid for their whores in the government.

Until we have public financing that gives potential candidates the freedom to be honest it'll be BIG BUSINESS as usual in the corrupt halls of Congress...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:36 PM
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17. Imperial? Isn't that a little much?
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:45 PM
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18. Seems to me that DK should check out what this was about
Instead of jumping to conclusions. But if one wants to jump to conclusions, I think it was about too many debates and possibly, about Mike Gravel. Gravel has done little or no campaigning, except to show up at debates.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:19 PM
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19. Don't be Sheeple for FAUX NOISE people!



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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:55 PM
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20. If I were Hillary, I would want DK OFF the STAGE too.
It is soooo embarrassing for the "serious" candidates to have someone who is CLEAR & Consistent on the stage with them while they triangulate and weasel.

If DK is eliminated from the debates, who will tell America that:

*Single Payer Universal HealthCare is not only possible, but cheaper.

*that "For Profit" HealthCare is obscene

*that Mandatory Health Insurance is NOT REALLY Universal HealthCare

*that the Democratic Party and American taxpayers really should NOT be forced to subsidize some of the richest CEOs in history by channeling Taxpayer money to the BIG HealthCare Insurance Corps and HMOs.

*that the US SHOULD give the Imperial Palace (Green Zone) back to the Iraqis, close the permanent bases, expel all Corporate Consultants, withdraw ALL US Troops, and begin paying reparations NOW.

*that redeploying some troops at some future date is a PRO-WAR position.

*that the "Oil Law Benchmark" supported by the Democratic Party is a War Crime

*That we can have election accountability with "Paper Ballots publicly hand counted at the precinct".

*that we CAN cut $Billions$ from the Defense Budget.

*that the RICHEST Corporations in history do NOT need $Billions$ in welfare subsidies

*that NAFTA (Free Trade) has not been a good thing for Americans who have to work for a living

Who will tell the truth to America if DK is kicked off the Democratic stage? :shrug:
Dennis Kucinich's Truth to Power voice is one of the few reasons I am still in the Democratic Party.
Kicking DK off the stage IS kicking ME off the stage.


The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

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rabies1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:15 PM
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21. The more I hear, the more I turn to Dennis Kucinich. He's the voice of sanity.
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