Do You actually know what was said during the NAACP Forum between Hillary and Edwards?

[Tellurian]

Please make your choice accompanied by a comment and please try to be honest!...

[welshTerrier2]

1. Has Hillary set the record straight on what she said?

If there's any confusion about exactly what was said, Mrs. Clinton should have no difficulty get the truth published in the media.

Instead of having "her guys meet", why doesn't she come right out and tell us whether she thinks all the candidates and their ideas should get a full airing or whether she wants to try to exclude certain candidates from future debates.

[Tellurian]

3. That would include Edwards...and if he gives his permission ...

Otherwise...

[welshTerrier2]

6. Mrs. Clinton has every right to recount what SHE said

She doesn't need Edwards approval to clarify her own position.

And she certainly doesn't need anyone else's permission to explain whether she believes all candidates should fully participate in the debates. That wouldn't even require a reference to her conversation with Edwards.

[Tellurian]

16. Of course, she needs Edward's OK...

He's part of the flap, so in fairness, he should be allowed a say. Why would you disagree with that?

[karynnj]

21. Because she needed Mark Penn's input?

[welshTerrier2]

23. yes, he's mightier than the sword ...

some, to know just what to do, will require really, really long fingers or a very, very stiff breeze ... some may even require both ...

[Tellurian]

27. No, I would say, she needed JE's input..

[Tellurian]

2. Yes, I agree, Kucinich, the Impeachment Champion is taking advantage of a situation...

I'm shocked! they actually have Kucinich in spellcheck!

[Lerkfish]

11. wow. what will it take before Clinton is for impeachment?

exactly what crimes beyond treason, outing a CIA agent, violating the Hatch Act, requiring fealty oaths from USattys, vote caging, manipulation of vote counting, felonious stonewalling against supbeonas, fabricating fake intelligence to lie us into war...

you want me to stop or should I keep going?

what crime BEYOND THOSE ALREADY LISTED, will finally be enough for clinton, obama, edwards, etc. to put impeachment on the table?

There is a point where turning a blind eye to crime is an accessory after the fact.

take that and shove in your poll.

[Totally Committed]

4. Well... that poll isn't slanted

much. :sarcasm:

Honestly.

TC

[Tellurian]

5. You don't like my choices?

Tell me why....If you please...

I thought my choices were objective with the exception of Kucinich... He's a bit too obvious..

[Totally Committed]

10. Your choices were okay, with the exception of the one about Kucinich.

Oh, come on, now.... If it was Kucinich and Edwards conspiring in ANY way that could have hurt Hillary, and she complained loudly about it, you'd be cheering her on.

I prefer to participate in polls that aren't biased or rigged in any way. If you are so sure what kucinich is doing is in any way disingenuous, you should have presented his position in an unbiased way and let the poll-takers spank him for it.

Just my opinion.

TC

[Tellurian]

22. Kucinich is a Wild Card as much as Gravel.. can you deny that?

Oh, come on, now.... If it was Kucinich and Edwards conspiring in ANY way that could have hurt Hillary, and she complained loudly about it, you'd be cheering her on.

No, I wouldn't! I'd wait until a statement was issued. Thats what normal people do...they wait and see what the party's of the first and second part are committed to, then they deal with it!

I prefer to participate in polls that aren't biased or rigged in any way. If you are so sure what kucinich is doing is in any way disingenuous, you should have presented his position in an unbiased way and let the poll-takers spank him for it.

So! If you feel that strongly, start your own poll and find out if your right!

[Totally Committed]

31. I think I do deny it.

Dennis is, except for his stand on Choice, a solid progressive, but Gravel has that certain whiff of "nutcase" about him, at least to me.

Dennis will never be nominated, but his ideas and his issues keep the other Democrats at least talking about the progressive issues, and make for a lively debate.

As a disclainer: I am not in the Kucinich camp. I am curretly without candidate.

TC

[Tellurian]

34. Then DK IS a Wild Card...

you're denying it just for the sake of denying it...which at this point is, well, a matter of pride?

I agree with you DK is a sounding board on what should ultimately be done. However, Congress is comprised of Republicans that hardly see things DK's way and the fact, we may never get their vote for Impeachment which is a sad day for Democracy.

However, the fact remains, DK is not a viable candidate for the presidency, his voice at this point in time is his relevant asset. And yes, I agree, he does keep other Dems talking about progressive issues. I prefer him to the "potted plant", wild eyed, Gravel... If that is any consolation.

As is evident, my first choice is HILLARY, because she is ready, willng and able to make this next presidency work for US!

[bunnies]

7. Honestly, I havent listened to it...

but Im wondering why we've no response from either Clinton or Edwards yet. Maybe they want to make sure their stories jive re: the conversation. :shrug:

[CC]

8. I have tried listening without reading

over and over and I can't tell what they are talking about. When I watch I notice they aren't whispering, people are around them and they don't act like they are trying to hide what they are saying. I did notice one part sounds more like a hit against the media than any candidate. Unfortunately Fix Noise has succeeded in doing what they wanted, I see people here talking about some half heard often interrupted, unintelligible conversation between two candidates instead of what any of the candidates said during the debate. Fix Noise smoke and mirrors, hey look what is that over there lets divide the Dems and start them fighting each other bs.

[goodgd_yall]

33. I agree, Faux News is loving this

Sorry, on this one, I'll believe what I hear. I don't trust any of the corporate media's report on this.

[wyldwolf]

9. Even though the audio doesn't at all sound like what folks on DU are claiming...

...I tend to believe FOX News, Drudge, and Newsmax in ALL things. I trust them more than my own hearing.

[BeyondGeography]

12. Looks like you won't get any clarity on the matter from the candidates, either

which tells you more than anything they stepped in it and this is not a Faux concoction:

<Asked for comment, a Clinton campaign spokesman said, “We’re not discussing it.” We’ve reached out to the Edwards campaign and we’ll post their response when we get it. *** Update *** An Edwards spokesman emails us, "Edwards thought yesterday was a good forum, but wants additional substantive debates over the course of the campaign.">

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/07/13/269346.aspx

[ProudDad]

15. Hell, I'd like to see ONE substantive debate

All we get from the big five are sound bites and feel-good triangulation shit...

[bunnies]

19. “We’re not discussing it.” ?!!?!!

What the hell is that? A play from the dubya handbook? :grr:

[AtomicKitten]

13. and cutting and pasting their anti-Democratic tripe

as long as it boosts my argument is perfectly fine

:banghead:

[ProudDad]

14. I couldn't find the right pick - you left it out...

Are the Kucinich haters on this board ever going to cease their flame bait posts and try to convince us with facts that their (corporate) candidate is the right one to vote for?

[dweller]

17. okay, that gets my vote.

:thumbsup:

dp

[William769]

20. There are Kucinich haters?

Do they out number his supporters? :rofl:

[ProudDad]

28. Not on this board

:evilgrin:

Here the haters are few in number but start a lot of stupid threads like this one...

[Tellurian]

26. You have to stay on topic, Proud Dad..

What is it you are so concerned about? The Topic is Hillary, Edwards, and Obama and Kucinich..

What did I leave out?

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[TeamJordan23]

24. Prove that it is a Lie. nt

[William769]

25. Prove that it's been said. NT.

[TeamJordan23]

29. Listen to both Versions

As much as I don't like Fox News, their transcript matches up to what is on the ABC video. "They are not serious" "They are being trivialized"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3374688

[William769]

30. I have.

Some words can be picked out, but thats all.

[goodgd_yall]

32. But who is "they"? n/t

[FrenchieCat]

35. I'm wasn't born yesterday........and they ain't no innocents!

[philosophie_en_rose]

36. Hillary proposed eating puppies and Edwards suggested an alliance with the Daleks.

:bounce: