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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:50 PM
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Chief Justice Antonin Scalia


Food for thought.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:52 PM
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1. Minor correction:
Not food for thought.

Enough to make you lose your lunch.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:00 PM
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2. Looks like he needs to start thinking about not having so much.
Guess he's been munching lots of snack food while he schemes about how to give jr. another 4.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:17 PM
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3. More food for thought. Kerry voted him in.
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 03:27 PM by Tinoire
Senator John Kerry, who visited me right after he came back from Vietnam in the late sixties as an articulate protester against the war, mentioned the Supreme Court issue, and then explained the Scalia vote as senatorial deference to the president.

page 279
Crash!ng the Party by Ralph Nader

The Senate vote on Scalia's appointment was 98-0.

Maybe it was one of the votes Kerry missed :shrug:

Good point. Reminds us of what we're fighting. Bush & Bush-enablers.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:26 PM
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10. Who mentioned Kerry?
The "corrupt" Kerry will never beat Bush-not with attacks from the left and right AND the media. Do the math on that one. Kerry is done.

I was trying to introduce you to your new Chief Justice.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:29 PM
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12. I am just staying honest here. Sounded like another ABB cry.
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 03:43 PM by Tinoire
But you know me, at every opportunity, never one to miss an opportunity. Gotta make sure the dish is presented on the proper plate so everyone can appreciate it to its fullness.

Thanks for reminding us of what other horrors some Dems might decide are acceptable.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:34 PM
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14. No, it is showing you the results of 2004...
...due to "progressives" who refuse to unite behind the Democrats.

Bush vs. the better man, but the better man will be attacked by the left, the GOP and the media, so hello Chief Justice Scalia!!!

You won! Kerry is done, Bush is a sure thing. Now go gloat.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:51 PM
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15. How presumptuous to imply that Kerry is the better man!
By the way, no one's gloating. Instead we are working to make sure a "better man" gets into that office. One who will present a clear enough difference to Bush.

Right now there are 3- Kucinich, Dean & Edwards. Sorry your candidate doesn't make the list and that voters like me are more concerned with war, occupation, civil liberties, jobs than we are with a cosmetic changing of the guard.

Also, pray explain your incongrous statement that the better man will be attacked by the Left? The mere fact that your man is attacked by the Left (2 in a row) should prompt you to wonder how the hell he's going to carry the General election if the Left can't stand him. You're going to need those votes from the Left for the ABB man. I'd suggest you start looking at anti-NAFTA Edwards. He's got a leg up with the Left.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:56 PM
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16. You are right, I guess Bush is the better man...
...they say "the best man wins"...

The far left wont attack Democrats in 2004? Uh, okay, if you say so...

I apologize for trying to stand up for Democrats and suggesting that any Democrat is a better man than Bush- silly of me. I guess you put me in my place.

Did you say hello to your new Chief Justice yet? I'm going to go ahead and write a congragulatory letter...
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:04 PM
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20. Nope... Too busy writing Kerry a thank you note & thanking him for all his
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 04:05 PM by Tinoire
missed votes.

So while it may be true that in that majority of cases the actual outcome of the final passage is not affected by the no vote, the fact is it will not look good in a debate when bush says “Senator Kerry, you missed 63 out of 183 votes in 2003 alone. The American public is not going to look deep enough to really see that it doesn’t matter. All they know is they have to show up for work regardless or they do not get paid.

Everyone is talking about the fact that Kerry voted for the no child left behind act but very few people also know that on 3/11/03, by a slim majority senators successfully tabled the Murry Mmendment #284 to fully fund the NCLB act and reduce debt by reducing tax breaks for the wealthiest taxpayers. The motion to table succeeded by two vote’s. Guess which 2 Senators did not bother to vote. Kerry and Edwards.

The same thing happened on that day with the Murry Amendment #258 to improve the availability of contraceptives for women. It failed by 2 votes. Once again Senators Kerry and Edwards did not bother to vote their mind.

Other important legislation that Kerry did not bother to vote on were:

    To prohibit the procedure know as partial birth abortion….no vote

    Vote to make Tom Ridge Sec. of Homeland Security….no vote

    #S.151 to prevent child abduction and the sexual exploitation of children, clearing the measure for the President ….no vote

    Boxer Amendment No. 684, to require a specific plan to help AIDS orphans….. No vote

    Gregg Amendment No. 945, to ensure that there is competition in the pharmaceutical industry and increased access to affordable drugs. No vote

    Dorgan Amendment No. 946, to provide greater access to affordable pharmaceuticals. No vote

    FCC Media Ownership bill: S.J. Res. 17, disapproving the rule submitted by the Federal Communications Commission with respect to broadcast media ownership. No vote

    S. 877, to regulate interstate commerce by imposing limitations and penalties on the transmission of unsolicited commercial electronic mail via the Internet. No vote

    H.R. 1828, to halt Syrian support for terrorism, end its occupation of Lebanon, stop its development of weapons of mass destruction, cease its illegal importation of Iraqi oil and illegal shipments of weapons and other military items to Iraq, and by so doing hold Syria accountable for the serious international security problems it has caused in the Middle East. No vote

    Kyl/Sessions Modified Amendment No. 288, to provide financial security to family farm and small business owners by ending the practice of taxing someone at death. No vote



http://www.uniquesnowflake.com/archives/000585.php

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A man beholden to the people doesn't skip out on 59% of this year's votes in the Senate where the GOP enjoys a majority. Here is a list of all the votes that Kerry missed. This list does not include the 2 votes during his 2/12-25/03 surgery and recovery.

1: Procedural Motion - Adjourn to Time Certain
2: FY 2003 Approp.s - Homeland Security
3: FY 2003 Approp.s - Homeland Security
4: FY 2003 Approp.s - Education Block Grants
5: FY 2003 Approp.s - Education Funding
6: FY 2003 Approp.s - Rural Antidrug Program
7: FY 2003 Approp.s - Spending Reinstatement
8: FY 2003 Approp.s - Foreign Cruise Ships
13: Ridge Nomination - Confirmation
14: FY 2003 Approp.s - Unemployment Ins.
15: FY 2003 Approp.s - Drought Relief
16: FY 2003 Approp.s - Drought Relief
17: FY 2003 Approp.s - African Famine Relief
18: FY 2003 Approp.s - US AirPension Plan
26: FY 2003 Approp.s - Prohibit Quotas for Job Priv.
31: Adams Nomination - Confirmation
32: Otero Nomination - Confirmation
33: Junell Nomination - Confirmation
36: Procedural Motion - Require Attendance
37: Procedural Motion - Require Attendance
39: Pledge of Allegiance - Adoption
44: Frost Nomination - Confirmation
45: Partial-Birth Abor. Ban - Emer. Contracep.s
46: Partial-Birth Abor. Ban - Health Exception
47: Partial-Birth Abor. Ban - Motion to Commit
49: Partial-Birth Abor. Ban - Health Exception
50: Quarles Nomination - Confirmation
51: "Partial-Birth" Abortion Ban - Passage
52: Varlan Nomination - Confirmation
53: Estrada Nomination - Cloture
54: Bybee Nomination - Confirmation
55: Breen Nomination - Confirmation
60: FY 2004 Budget Res. - Education Funding
109: Coalition Member Support - Adoption
110: Military Tax Breaks - Passage
111: Selna Nomination - Confirmation
112: Springmann Nomination - Confirmation
114: Estrada Nomination - Cloture
115: FY 2003 War Supplemental - Port Security
116: FY '03 War Supp. - Nat'l. Guard & Reserves
117: FY '03 War Suppl. - Aircraft Missile Def.
118: FY '03 War Suppl. - Ind. Member Projects
119: FY '03 War Suppl. - Counterterror Funding
120: FY '03 War Suppl. - Homeland Security
121: FY 2003 War Supplemental - War Costs
122: FY '03 War Suppl. - First Resp'r. Funding
123: FY '03 War Suppl. - First Resp'r. Funding
124: FY '03 War Suppl. - Iraqi Food Assistance
125: FY 2003 War Supplemental - Passage
126: Carney Nomination - Confirmation
132: Protections for Children - Conf. Report
133: Swimmer Nomination – Confirmation
135: Sutton Nomination - Confirmation
139: Cook Nomination - Confirmation
140: Estrada Nomination - Cloture
141: Altonaga Nomination - Confirmation
145: FISA Warrants - Feinstein Substitute
146: FISA Warrants - Passage
147: Tax Reductions - On-Budget Surplus
180: Global AIDS Relief - Abstinence Programs
181: Global AIDS Relief - Drug Pricing
182: Global AIDS Relief - AIDS Orphans
183: Global AIDS Relief - Aid to Carib. Nations
184: Hicks Nomination - Confirmation
185: FY '04 Def. Auth. - Reservist Health Care
186: FY '04 Def. Auth. - Nucl. Weapons Study
187: FY '04 Def. Auth. - Nucl. Weapons Study
188: FY '04 Def. Auth. - Nucl. Weapons Study
189: FY '04 Def. Auth. - Nucl. Penetrator Weapons
192: FY 2004 Defense Auth. - Overseas Abortions
193: FY 2004 Defense Auth. - Defense Contracts
194: FY 2004 Defense Authorization - Passage
195: Callahan Nomination - Confirmation
202: Debt Limit Increase - Passage
203: Energy Policy - Ethanol Requir. Exclusion
204: Energy Policy - Ethanol Requir. Exclusion
205: FY 2004 Defense Authoriz. - Base Closures
206: Energy Policy - Ethanol Requir. Exclusion
211: Chertoff Nomination - Confirmation
216: Greer Nomination - Confirmation
217: Kravitz Nomination - Confirmation
218: Energy Policy - Energy Commodity Trading
219: Energy Policy - Indian Energy Projects
220: Myanmar Sanctions - Passage
223: FY 2004 FAA Reauth. - Pilot Age Requirements
224: FY 2004 FAA Reauth. - Foreign Repair Stations
225: FY 2004 FAA Reauthorization - Passage
226: Pate Nomination - Confirmation
227: Prescription Drug Benefit - Benefit Within Medicare
228: Prescription Drug Benefit - Drug Cost Disclosure
229: Prescription Drug Benefit - Premium Cap
230: Prescription Drug Benefit - Drug Patents
231: American History and Civics Academies - Passage
232: Prescription Drug Benefit - Drug Importation
233: Prescription Drug Benefit - Third-Party Coverage
234: Prescription Drug Benefit - Open Enrollment Period
235: Prescription Drug Benefit - Canadian Price Equity
236: Prescription Drug Benefit - Cost Sharing Extension
237: Prescription Drug Benefit - Congressional Coverage
238: Prescription Drug Benefit - Two-Year Fallback Plan
239: Prescription Drug Benefit - Benefit Availability
240: Prescription Drug Benefit - Drug Cost Coverage
241: Prescription Drug Benefit - Employer Compensation
242: Prescription Drug Benefit - Health Centers
243: Prescription Drug Benefit - Drug Advertisements
244: Prescription Drug Benefit - Premium Reduction
245: Prescription Drug Benefit - Durbin Substitute
246: Prescription Drug Benefit - Cost-Effectiveness Studies
247: Prescription Drug Benefit - Disability Services
248: Prescription Drug Benefit - Drug Advertisements
249: Prescription Drug Benefit - Cancer Care
250: Prescription Drug Benefit - Cancer Patient Coverage
251: Prescription Drug Benefit - Asset Test
252: Prescription Drug Benefit - Alzheimer's Subsidy
253: Prescription Drug Benefit - Additional Disease Treatment
254: Prescription Drug Benefit - Premium Reduction
255: Prescription Drug Benefit - Experimental Drug Coverage
256: Prescription Drug Benefit - Immigrant Coverage
257: Prescription Drug Benefit - Retiree Coverage
258: Prescription Drug Benefit - Medigap Policies
259: Prescription Drug Benefit - Retiree Fallback Plan
260: Prescription Drug Benefit - Alternative Plan
261: Prescription Drug Benefit - Means Test
262: Prescription Drug Benefit - Passage
263: Campbell Nomination - Confirmation
264: Medical Malpractice - Cloture
265: Wolski Nomination – Confirmation
266: Child Tax Credit - Motion to Proceed
267: FY 2004 State Dept. Reauthorization - Mexico City Policy
269: FY 2004 State Dept. Reauth. - Unemployment Insurance
270: FY 2004 State Dept. Reauthoriz. - HIV/AIDS Funding
272: FY 2004 Legislative Branch Appropriations - AmeriCorps
273: FY 2004 Legislative Branch Appropriations - Passage
274: FY 2004 Military Construction Appropriations - Passage
275: Der-Yeghiayan Nomination - Confirmation
276: Suko Nomination - Confirmation
277: FY 2004 Defense Appropriations - Troop Deployments
278: FY 2004 Defense Approp.s - Cost of Iraq Operations
279: FY 2004 Defense Appropriations - Military Detainees
280: Myanmar Sanctions - Passage
281: FY 2004 Defense Appropriations - Iraq War Costs
282: FY 2004 Defense Appropriations - Military Health Care
283: FY 2004 Defense Appropriations - Iraqi Reconstruction
284: FY 2004 Defense Approp.s - Iraqi Intel. Commission
285: FY 2004 Defense Approp.s - Unauthorized Approp.s
286: FY 2004 Defense Approp.s - Overseas Military Funding
287: FY 2004 Defense Appropriations - Intelligence Funding
288: FY 2004 Defense Appropriations - HIV/AIDS Funding
289: Duncan Nomination - Confirmation
290: FY 2004 Defense Appropriations - Passage
291: FY 2004 Homeland Sec. Approp.s - Approp.s Increase
292: FY 2004 Homeland Sec. Appr. - Law Enforcement Costs
293: FY '04 Hom. Sec. Appr. - Emer. Mgmt. Planning Grants
294: FY 2004 Homeland Security Approp.s - Port Security
295: FY 2004 Homeland Security Approp.s - Explosive Device
296: FY 2004 Homeland Sec. Approp.s - Firefighter Grants
297: FY 2004 Homeland Sec. Approp.s - Chemical Plant Sec.
298: FY 2004 Homeland Sec. Approp.s - Canadian Border Sec.
299: FY 2004 Homeland Sec. Appr - First Responder Funding
300: FY 2004 Homeland Security Approp.s - Maritime Security
301: FY '04 Homeland Sec. Appr. - High-Threat Urban Areas
302: FY '04 Homeland Sec. Appr. - High-Threat Urban Areas
303: FY 2004 Homeland Sec. Appr. - Federal Advisory Boards
304: FY 2004 Homeland Security Approp.s - Transit Security
305: FY 2004 Homeland Sec. Appr.s - Lobbying Restrictions
306: FY 2004 Homeland Security Appropriations - Passage
307: Yeakel Nomination - Confirmation
308: Owen Nomination - Cloture
309: Energy Policy - Fuel Economy Standards
310: Energy Policy - Fuel Economy Standards
311: Energy Policy - Price Manipulation
312: Estrada Nomination - Cloture
313: Energy Policy - Utility Mergers
314: Energy Policy - Standard Market Design
315: Energy Policy - Internal Transactions
316: Pryor Nomination - Cloture
317: Energy Policy - Passage
318: U.S.-Singapore Trade - Passage
319: U.S.-Chile Trade - Passage
320: Cohn Nomination - Confirmation
321: Montalvo Nomination - Confirmation
322: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Appr.s - Hispanic Edu. Prog.s
323: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Education Approp.s - Impact Aid
324: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Approp.s - IDEA Funding
325: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Approp.s - Job Training
326: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Approp.s - Rural Edu. Grants
327: Colloton Nomination - Confirmation
328: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Appr..s - Bioterr. Workforce
329: 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Approp.s - School Construction
330: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Approp.s - Title I Funding
331: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Approp.s - Higher Education
332: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Appr.s - HIV/AIDS Funding
333: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Education Approp.s - Head Start
336: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Approp.s - LIHEAP Assist.
339: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Approp.s - Fin. Aid Eligibility
340: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Appr.s - After-school Progr.s
341: FY '04 Labor-HHS-Edu. Appr. - Safe Child./Fam. Prom.
342: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Appr.s - Education Funding
343: FY '04 Labor-HHS-Edu. Appr. - Teacher Quality Progr.s
344: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Appr..s - After School Progr.s
345: FY '04 Lab.-HHS-Ed. App.. - W. Nile/Mosquito Control
346: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Edu. Approp.s - NIH Funding
347: FY 2004 Labor-HHS-Education Appropriations - Passage
348: Media Ownership Rule Disapproval - Passage
349: FY 2004 Energy/Water Appr.s - Adv. Nucl. Weapons 350: FY 2004 Energy and Water Appropriations - Passage
351: Partial-Birth Abortion Ban - Disagree to House Amend.
352: Proctor Nomination - Confirmation
353: Feuerstein Nomination - Confirmation
354: Conrad Nomination - Confirmation
355: Floyd Nomination - Confirmation
356: FY 2004 Interior Appropriations - Indian Health Service
357: Gibson Nomination - Confirmation
358: FY 2004 Interior Approp.s - National Mall Ad Ban
359: FY 2004 Interior Appr.s - Judicial Review of Timber Sales
360: FY 2004 Int. Appr.s - Competitive Sourcing Annual Rept.
361: FY 2004 Int. Appr.s - Compet. Sourcing Rev. Prohibition
362: FY 2004 Interior Appr.s - Indian Health Service Funding
363: Burns Nomination - Confirmation
364: FY 2004 Defense Appropriations - Conference Report
365: Do-Not-Call Registry - Passage
366: Sabraw Nomination - Confirmation
367: Mosman Nomination - Confirmation
368: Bea Nomination - Confirmation
369: Crone Nomination - Confirmation
370: White Nomination - Confirmation
371: FY 2004 Suppl. for Iraq/Afghanistan - Iraqi Reconstruc.
376: FY 2004 Suppl. for Iraq/Afghanistan - Safety Equipment
377: Genetic Nondiscrimination - Passage
378: FY 2004 Supp. Iraq/Afghanistan - Iraqi Lib. Medal
379: FY 2004 Supp. Iraq/Afghanistan - Domestic Spending
380: FY 2004 Supp. Iraq/Afghanistan - Reconstr. Financing
381: FY 2004 Supp. Iraq/Afghanistan - Mil Res. Retire. Age
382: FY 2004 Supp. Iraq/Afghanistan - Add'l Army Personnel
383: FY 2004 Supp. Iraq/Afghanistan - Congressional Report
384: FY 2004 Supp. Iraq/Afghanistan - Removal Of Saddam
398: FY 2004 Supp. Iraq/Afghanistan - Cong. Approval

http://www.gop.com/RNCResearch/Read.aspx?ID=3073

I welcome you to take this list with a grain of salt since it is from a Republican Web-site (which means they are already making an issue of it as am I because it calls into question Kerry's dedication & integrity about representing the people) but it is easily verifiable by going here:
http://capwiz.com/c-span/dbq/issuesdbq/votesearch.dbq?command=member2& ...
It is interesting to note that no votes affecting the Telecommunications Industry were missed.

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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:06 PM
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23. Right- so stay home, vote Bush, vote Jello Biafra...
..do what thy wilt.

All I'm trying to do is show you the man who will be "making up" your laws for you for a LONG time. Get used to him.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:59 PM
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17. He can't become Chief Justice
without the advice and consent of the Senate.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:04 PM
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21. No problem- the GOP will crush "corrupt DEMS" in the Senate in 2004
Do the math- the far left, the GOP AND the media will ALL be attacking Democrats in 2004- 3 to 1 is excellent odds in favor of Scalia.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:17 PM
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4. Kerry was in the senate when Scalia was confirmed
how did Kerry vote?
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:19 PM
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5. He voted 'aye'. n/t
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:21 PM
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6. Get out! Really? No Way!
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 03:21 PM by HFishbine
But, but, I thought warding off conservative Supreme Court justices was one of the reasons we should support Kerry. Surely you jest.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:24 PM
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7. Vote for Bush then.
Or some guy who will get 3%.

Who mentioned Kerry anyway?

Kerry is out,- say hello to Chief Justice Scalia.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:25 PM
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8. Hey
I'm still just waiting for a good reason to vote for Kerry.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:27 PM
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11. The left, the right and the media will destroy him...
...so dont worry about it. Say hello to your new Chief Justice.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:06 PM
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22. Not very funny, is it? n/t
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 04:07 PM by Tinoire
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:09 PM
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24. Sorry, just an average Joe, no DLC here...
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 04:15 PM by Dr Fate
...but I did work for good old fashioned, local Democrats in the 12th District of GA.

What does the DLC have to do with our new Chief Justice? The DLC will be attacked on 3 fronts- the far left, the GOP and the media, so dont worry about them.

On edit- you edited out your vaugue suggestion that I was DLC- just so people know what this post is about...
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:31 PM
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13. Would Kerry appoint men like him?
Would Kerry appoint Scalia as Chief Justice?

Again, this is all hypothectical stuff. All you Kerry bashers will be pleased to know that he cant withstand attacks from the Republicans, the far left AND the media- it's no contest- 3 to 1.

Say hello to Chief Justice Scalia.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:51 PM
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25. Would a DEM confirm better Supreme Ct. judges than Bush?
I say that no matter what your argument is, any DEM in the oval office would appoint better people in the Supreme Court than Bush will...

But since we refuse to unite against Bush, its all just hypothetical talk anyway...

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:26 PM
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9. American Heart Association poster boy - yikes
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:00 PM
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18. Good God man! Never say that again!
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KFC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:00 PM
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19. Looks like a Botox job to me.
The bastid.
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