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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:22 PM
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Alex Rodriguez (A-Rod) contributed to Guliani ?! Two questions.


In all the reporting about the Hollywood actors and actresses who have thus far sent contributions to this or that candidate, I noticed that Alex Rodriguez, baseball's highest paid player and probably the MVP of this season, has contributed to the Guliani campaign.

This is sort of a new twist, I don't recall being informed about atheletes and who they contribute to. It makes me wonder....

My first question is, what is your opinion -- do you think people should be able to make personal contributions to candidates without having that information revealed to the public through the media? Is this a price to pay for stardom? Is it important for this type of disclosure to be made public so that people can know where the money is coming from? what if they started publishing a list of ALL donors, so even if you or I send just $25 to Dennis Kucinich, our name ends up in a public database or even worse, on a website? Where do you draw the line between privacy and the public's right to know, when it comes to campaign contributions?

My second question is - are there any Yankee fans or baseball fans out there who are disturbed by the fact that a player you like is contributing to a Republican candidate? Does this change how you feel about him as a person or a player?

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:24 PM
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1. The threshold is $250 I believe...
So just sending $25 to Kucinich would not trigger the disclosure requirements...unless your total contributions added up to that much...

I think transparency in this area is a good thing...

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:28 PM
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3. I think the
Edited on Tue Jul-17-07 02:43 PM by MonkeyFunk
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:40 PM
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9. The link is broken.
:wtf:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:44 PM
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11. whoops...
I pasted in the middle of my comment. fixed now.

And don't WTF me, missy!
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:58 PM
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14. "No candidate can accept an anonymous contribution that is more than $50. "
that doesn't mean that all contributions over $50 are publicly disclosed, does it?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 03:23 PM
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19. yes it does
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 07:57 PM
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27. so you're saying
information about all contributors above $50 is public? So I could call up some government agency and ask for a list of everyone who contributed more than $50 to Bush in 2004 and find out who in my neighborhood contributed, etc?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:01 PM
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29. Yes
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:20 PM
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30. That's f-ed up and I'm surprised that information hasn't been
exploited. It's not very far from disclosing who people voted for.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:26 PM
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31. it's been that way for many years
political contributions aren't secrets, nor should they be.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:27 PM
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2. I cheer Alex on the field. Though disappointing his contributions polticially mean little to me (nt)
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:28 PM
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4. Another reason to hate the Yankees...
As if I needed one!!!


GO TWINS!
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:30 PM
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5. Whenever I hear of a professional athletes donating dem I'm shocked
If we only cheered sports figures who support democrats there'd be very little cheering. Especially baseball and football.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:32 PM
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6. Ironically alot of baseball owners are Dems...as is Bud Selig...
Almost no golfers are Dems... John Daly and David Duval are the only ones I know of...

Not too many Football players...though there are some...

More baseball players are Dems...

and I think Dems would be dominant among basketball players...

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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 03:01 PM
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15. I would think MOST athletes would be social liberals bordering social libertarians
Edited on Tue Jul-17-07 03:02 PM by Hawaii Hiker
but perhaps fiscal conservatives....

I mean, most athletes have multiple girlfriends, patronize strip clubs, patronize escort services, gamble, drink & engage in recreational drugs, etc.....Some act all holier than thou, but very, very few athletes would be social conservatives....Now of course, they may act socially conservative, but at the end of the day, their every bit as much hypocrites as the right wing politicians....

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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:34 PM
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7. why do you think that is?
just because they are rich and want lower taxes for the rich?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:46 PM
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12. Yes
they're all extremely rich, and there's also alot of phony machismo in pro sports. These guys wouldn't be caught dead defending their country, but they like to pretend they're he-men. I am sure most of them identifies with Smirk prancing on the aircraft carrier.

Read David zirin's new book. Sports are run with an iron fist by ultra-right-wing repukes. Carlos Delgado, when he arrived in NY, announced that he would not stand for God Bless America because the war is illegal. The Mets ordered him to apologize and commence standing, and he complied.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 03:04 PM
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16. yeah for Carlos.
too bad he's having a bad year. I remember when he did that. Personally I don't think the mets squelched him because his statements were left or right or any particular persuasion. I think any strong political statement would have been condemned. I believe it was the Mets who wouldn't let Bill Orielly into their clubhouse. that was sweet.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 03:12 PM
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17. I think a lot of it has to do with religion and conservative values
How many times do you see a player kiss his cross, or blow kisses to God after making a great play.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:36 PM
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8. Almost all pro athletes are wingers
and I have one more question - why isn't A-rod in Iraq in uniform?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 03:19 PM
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18. It's the money. It's alot of money.
Even if you are a mediocre player such as "A-Rod", you get alot of money.
Those tax cuts are quite nice for them.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:41 PM
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10. Yes this disturbs me
It also disturbed me to find out that David Wright said he admired * and wanted to meet him and I'm not even a Mets fan.
I can't stop being a Yankees fan, but when I heard about this, it did upset me. It's possible that he likes Giuliani on a personal level -- Giuliani is always there, trying to make friends with all the Yankees.
Okay, maybe this is a rationalization. But it's all I've got!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:48 PM
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13. A-Rod and Wright should both IMMEDIATELY be given rifles and fatigues
and sent to Baghdad. They can even keep their $15,000,000/year. Neither of them would last a month.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 03:27 PM
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20. Just one thing to say about this...
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 04:05 PM
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21. Uh oh
The Yankees fanatics will turn this thread into a mess now :hide:
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 04:17 PM
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22. Oh, I know
But be gentle. It's hard when your team is ten games out!

:evilgrin:
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 04:41 PM
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23. He, and many other players, are extremely rich.
And they tend to vote their wallet. I remember Barry Bonds saying he was voting for Dole in 1996 because Republicans are for the rich.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 04:46 PM
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24. Anybody who contributes does so publicly
On another note...this just proves that baseball players are dumb as stumps. I love baseball (not the yankees). I love to watch the games and the players. But, there's just no doubt about it - most baseball players are just plain dumb.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 07:39 PM
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25. A-Rod is a loser
And his buddy Giuliani will be one soon.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 07:50 PM
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26. The rich ones give to republicans
They're protecting their own interests...They don't give a shit about the People...

The wannabe-rich ones give to republicans 'cause they think they may GET rich and they're surrounded by rich republican fucks...a lot of whom just suck up to them...
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:00 PM
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28. I don't know about that
many baseball players grew up poor and I like to believe the remember their roots.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 12:36 AM
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33. By the time the minority of them
are making the BIG, BIG money -- they've gotten lots of bad advice...
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:45 PM
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32. maybe he likes the way rudy responded to 911
Seeing A-Rod has a history of choking under pressure.

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