And yet another Chicago endorsement...

[SaveElmer]

John Canning Jr, prominent Chicago area businessman...and another Republican

Chairman of Madison Dearborn

A.B., Denison University; J.D., Duke University. Prior to co-founding MDP, Mr. Canning spent 24 years with First Chicago Corporation, most recently as Executive Vice President of The First National Bank of Chicago and President of First Chicago Venture Capital. Mr. Canning has more than 25 years of experience in private equity investing and currently serves on the Boards of Directors of The Economic Club of Chicago, Milwaukee Brewers Baseball Club, Northwestern Memorial Hospital, TransUnion Corp., and Children’s Inner City Educational Fund; on the Boards of Trustees of the Big Shoulders Fund, The Chicago Community Trust, The Field Museum, Museum of Science and Industry, and Northwestern University. Mr. Canning is also a Commissioner of the Irish Pension Reserve Fund and a Director and Deputy Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.

[mod mom]

1. Republicans want Hillary to win the nomination because they believe it is their only hope to win the

presidency in '08.

[Indy_Dem_Defender]

23. You hit the nail on the head

with that post.

[SaveElmer]

32. So how does it affect your reaction to know...

That the Republican mentioned above is supporting Barack Obama...?

[Indy_Dem_Defender]

36. Nope not at all

It's not usual for people to cross party lines to support a candidate from their home state.

It's kind of like the Chicago Cubs & Chicago White Sox rivalry, each team's fans generally don't get along or like each other, but when the Soxs went to the World Series 2 years ago, Cub fans threw their support behind the Soxs.

[SaveElmer]

31. I didn't say the guy was endorsing Hillary...

You assumed...

He is endorsing Obama...

Care to revise?

[MannyGoldstein]

2. Bank Dude Supports Mrs. Clinton

Quelle Surprise!

[SaveElmer]

3. WHat's the problem with a "bank dude" supporting Hillary?

What's the objection to that?

[Enrique]

4. bank dudes often have different interests than ordinary people

tell me, is this endorsement supposed to impress people here? Does it impress you?

[SaveElmer]

5. Banks employ alot of ordinary people don't they?..nt

[MannyGoldstein]

6. So Do Sweat Shops And Tobbaco Companies

Not that I'm comparing.

[Enrique]

7. their interests are different than those of ordinary people, aren't they?

[SaveElmer]

10. Well the point of any business...large or small...

Is to make a profit...our whole economy is based on that principle. Certainly it is in the interests of ordinary citizens that the economy do well. Obviously there are abuses aplenty and business needs to be regulated...but is the mere fact that this businessman would provide an endorsement necessarily a bad thing?

Do you have any evidence that this particular individual is engaging in practices detrimental to the public as a whole?

[draft_mario_cuomo]

13. I agree. Obama and HRC are obscenely popular among the corporatacry

And interestingly Obama is even more popular on Wall Street than the DLCer...

[maximusveritas]

8. Cute

The difference is that Duffy "intends to remain a registered Republican" and hasn't turned his back on them publicly. He likes Hillary because she "crosses party lines".

Canning on the other hand has said he's fed up with the Republican Party and no longer finds himself on the same page as them. So it sounds like he's left the party. And he likes Obama because of his opposition to the war and his pledge to reduce greenhouse gasses.

Big difference

[draft_mario_cuomo]

14. So he likes HRC because he views her as a unifying figure who can go beyond "old politics"...

...and forge consensus? ;)

[maximusveritas]

18. He likes her because she "understands the important role that financial markets play...

in our global economy as well as the economic opportunities and risk management benefits these critical markets create for all."

That's not the kind of thing that Obama reaches consensus on.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

21. Really? So why is he beating DLC leader HRC and Republicans on Wall Street?

;)

[maximusveritas]

24. Perhaps because not everyone on Wall Street is like Mr Duffy

Some can think about things other than the financial markets. These are for the most part thinking individuals with their own personal concerns.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

28. They don't want to promote the interests of Wall Street?

Surely their jobs are high on the list of their personal concerns.

[maximusveritas]

33. You're not thinking about them as people

Are your political considerations mostly determined by your job? I know many Republicans feel that way, but I know mine aren't. My political considerations are based on what I think is best for the greater good. They are not based on what's best for my financial well-being. I'm guessing many Wall Street people are the same way.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

42. So suddenly Wall Street support is great because they love Obama?

Progressives have long railed against corporate influence in politics. Now that one hero of many progressives is Wall Street's darling some are doing a 180 on Wall Street. Suddenly being in bed with corporate America is fantastic...

[zulchzulu]

9. Gee...why would a Repug want Senator Clinton as the nominee?

Wow. Another Republican...



Lookie! It's...Rupert Murdoch! Doesn't he own Fox News?

:crazy:

[wyldwolf]

11. Ask Colin Powell

[draft_mario_cuomo]

43. You forgot to mention NewsCorp/Faux executives gave Obama $14,000 nt

[SaveElmer]

12. Oops...forgot to mention Canning is endorsing Obama...

Sorry if this cause any reflex reactions to go the wrong way...

[draft_mario_cuomo]

15. LMAO!

:rofl: ::rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[bunnies]

16. hehe. You are a slippery one arent you SE....

Ive got to hand it to you here. Nicely executed.

[SaveElmer]

17. Thanks...just a little experiment...nt

[maximusveritas]

20. Why haven't you addressed my point about the difference b/t the two?

Sure, you caught out a few careless posters. But you're wrong in equating these 2 Chicago businessmen.

[SaveElmer]

26. Look at the reactions...

They saw he was a banker...the head of a company that specializes in acquisitions and immediately assumed the worst...

As to your point, I think the fact that Terry Duffy is supporting a Democrat is pretty good indication he is not happy with the direction of the Republican Party. And though I don't know his views on the environment specifically, Hillary's are not a secret so obviously it wasn't a concern.

My guess is that Canning hasn't suddenly turned into a Kucinich liberal either. And I doubt he is suddenly turning his back on the type of speculation that makes or breaks his business. You cannot slip a sheet of paper between Hillary and Obama ideologically speaking, so my guess is Canning and Duffy are not far apart either...

And Canning is not the only Republican to endorse Obama...

In any case the point was to expose a bit of the reflex reaction that goes on around here when anyone who endorses Hillary is mentioned...

[jefferson_dem]

19. Good one!

Props to you...

Sucka...

[Tellurian]

53. Oh, NO! Obama supporters applying "double standards"?

with their Obama THINK?

Obama/anything goes.. Hillary/everything scrutinized

Oh, the Horror!

[TeamJordan23]

22. Do you really think these types of endorsements sway voters?

99% of the people don't even know who the heck he is.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

29. Read the thread nt

[TeamJordan23]

34. What part? Do you really think endorsements of people like this (for any candidate) help sway voter?

nm

[SaveElmer]

35. The point wasn't to promote the endorsement...

But to gauge the reaction...look more closely

[draft_mario_cuomo]

44. The point wasn't the endorsement...read the thread nt

[illinoisprogressive]

25. And Obama has NY endorsements. what is your point.

[SaveElmer]

27. Look up a few posts...

You will see the point

[draft_mario_cuomo]

30. Read the thread. The point is clear nt

[illinoisprogressive]

37. Hill and her republicans...like Murdoch. ect. Oprah is a dem, very influential dem....

[SaveElmer]

38. I see you've given up all pretense...

Of making sense....

[draft_mario_cuomo]

45. Didn't Oprah support *? Murdoch's pals gave Obama $14,000

You forgot to mention News Corp./Faux executives gave Obama $14,000. HRC is not the only one News Corp. likes. ;)

[rufus dog]

39. Do Endorsements matter to people?

So this guy is a local Illini and is behind his home state guy. But to the larger point, does it matter who endorses who?

Seriously, it has never impacted my decision one way or another unless it is something that is offensive to my viewpoint. For example, when some of the stars came out for Bush in 1999/2000 it impacted the way I viewed them, (in a very minor way) but someone supporting Kerry over Clark in 2004 had no impact on my views of the candidate or the person giving the endorsement. Honestly in my entire life I can't remember being shocked by someones support for a candidate, that is thinking, wow that person is a good musician or actor and I respect their work but I can't believe they support X. It always causes me to laugh a bit that Repubs either have to listen to shitty music or know the guy/gal they like has opposite viewpoints.

[Jed Dilligan]

40. Yet another

:puke:

[SaveElmer]

41. Another what?

[Jed Dilligan]

48. Another pig corporate businessman

like the last one you posted.

[Greyhound]

46. She is a win-win for Republik "businessmen", no surprise here. n/t

[SaveElmer]

47. Post #12...nt

[Forkboy]

49. Another unifying thread brought to you by TeamBrowbeat.

Oh,you wiley Elmer,you.

Here's a tip.We know Obama supporters are hypocrites.We also know Hillary supporters are arrogant and obnoxious....and hypocrites.The two camps should get a room...or run together on the Asshat Ticket.

[SaveElmer]

50. And we know "progressives"

Are intolerant and vindictive...you could run on the "We don't care if we win as long as we don't compromise our purity" Ticket

[Forkboy]

51. The purity charge is for simpletons.

There is no perfect person on the planet,so I certainly don't expect any candidate to be.I've compromised on every single vote I've ever cast.

The purity stuff is as lame as the corporate whore stuff,and shows the same lack of critical thinking that you decry in "progressives".

[SaveElmer]

52. Funny...

You hurl insults and we are supposed to take them as deep political thinking...

Someone fires back and they are simpletons...

Or maybe "Asshats'

[Forkboy]

54. I'm capable of going deeper than "purists" and "corporate whore".

I stand by my words that those charges are for simpletons.If you don't like the term don't act like one and I wont call you one.

[SaveElmer]

55. Not apparent by your initial response...nt

[Forkboy]

56. Oh well.

:shrug: