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Wed Jul-18-07 09:52 PM
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This nation needs a modern-day Teddy Roosevelt. Which Democratic candidate comes close? |
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Edited on Wed Jul-18-07 10:26 PM by brentspeak
Question: Is it realistic to expect Hillary Clinton, who's being feted by the GOP/DLC business community, to aggressively crack down on our modern-day monopolies, and push through, no matter what the cost, much-needed anti-monopoly legislation?
Er, uh, um...:eyes:
Question: Is it realistic to expect Barack Obama -- also being wined-and-dined by the usual suspects -- to make it his mission in life a sweeping campaign-finance reform agenda whose goal it is to obliterate, once-and-for-all, the pay-to-play D.C. beltway lobbyist system that's been primarily responsible for many of the nation's ills?
Uh, well you see, er...:eyes:
Question: Is it realistic to expect John Edwards to call for the revitalization of domestic American industry, the implementation of a modern-day 'square deal' type agenda, and the turning away of corporate interests from the White House front door?
Could be! :patriot: :thumbsup:
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Wed Jul-18-07 09:54 PM
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Wed Jul-18-07 09:56 PM
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2. You forgot to add..."none of the above...with the exception of John Edwards" |
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Edited on Wed Jul-18-07 09:56 PM by brentspeak
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:00 PM
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3. As Thom Hartmann likes to point out |
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Teddy Roosevelt was hardly a radical when he took office.
He was forcibly MOVED along the political spectrum by the People clamoring for change.
I don't know how that relates to your question really, but I'd answer that the candidate with the least amount of corporate hooks in them would be your best bet.
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:11 PM
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11. So, it would have to be a stealth TR/JFK |
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Edited on Wed Jul-18-07 10:11 PM by brentspeak
Like Edwards.
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:13 PM
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13. He'd be the guy I'd be betting on, yeah. n/t |
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:01 PM
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Teddy wouldn't vote for the IWR, permanent 'free' trade with China, the first bankruptcy bill, the 'Patriot' Act...
Vote for Jim Webb! The Anti-Clinton!
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:06 PM
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8. If not for Edwards, and the fact that Webb just moved into his Senate office, I'd vote Webb |
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Edited on Wed Jul-18-07 10:14 PM by brentspeak
Unfortunately, he just finished moving into his office at the Senate.
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:02 PM
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:02 PM
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6. Comparing Edwards to Teddy Roosevelt? Pass the pipe... |
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I was looking for the sarcasm smiley... Edwards couldn't shine Teddy's boots if he was allowed to.
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:29 PM
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15. Edwards was being compared to RFK yesterday. |
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Thu Jul-19-07 10:03 AM
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22. Edwards should get his hair done like RFK to be more obvious |
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It might cost more...but yunno...
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Thu Jul-19-07 05:22 PM
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29. This coming from someone who compares Obama to Lincoln and JFK... |
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Edited on Thu Jul-19-07 05:22 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:05 PM
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7. Actually, I'd equate Howard Dean more with TR |
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than any "of the above." :shrug:
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:09 PM
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Edited on Wed Jul-18-07 10:10 PM by brentspeak
Though Edwards is an excellent choice, too.
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:06 PM
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9. TR was fairly hideous and a Republican. |
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We really don't need another TR. Perhaps an FDR would be a better deal.
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:13 PM
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12. I'd Prefer Franklin To His Uncle, But... |
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Teddy had some faults, but he definitely stood up for the little guy (back when that phrase wasn't a joke). Busted monopolies, started the FDA (I think), did a lot of other good stuff.
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:23 PM
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14. Domestic policies were a breath of fresh air |
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but he was the first and prototype of the american imperialist. He championed the Spanish-American war, the annexation of Puerto Rico, the crypto-colonization of Cuba, and the hideous bloody conquest of the Philippines. It was his foreign policy that started the current ball rolling that we are now being crushed under.
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Wed Jul-18-07 11:25 PM
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19. FDR passed far more legislation for the benefit of taxpayers than TR |
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TR was not exactly enamored of his nephew's New Deal.
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Thu Jul-19-07 04:59 PM
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27. Since TR died in 1919 |
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it would have been quite a feat for him to comment on any of FDR's policies.
And technically, FDR wasn't TR's nephew (they were 5th cousins or something like that). Eleanor was TR's niece.
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Thu Jul-19-07 07:18 PM
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30. Right you are. As to the relationship end, yes I too have read of FDR/TR as 5th cousins. |
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Also read of FDR referred to as TR's nephew.
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:30 PM
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16. Obama has published his earmarks for anyone to see. He is the only |
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candidate to do so. He also made public his tax returns and everything. He is someone who until he announced for the presidency took regular airplanes in coach to and from Chicago. No private air. No first class. And it was paid from his own pocket.
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Wed Jul-18-07 10:31 PM
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17. I admire both Roosevelts. For those who condemn Teddy, I ask this |
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do you know anything about him. have you read about the man. He was one of the original progressives.
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Wed Jul-18-07 11:00 PM
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18. Teddy was the REPUBLICAN Roosevelt. |
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Thu Jul-19-07 04:34 PM
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25. He was a Republican only temporarily. |
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Edited on Thu Jul-19-07 04:34 PM by brentspeak
He later switched to the Progressive Party.
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Thu Jul-19-07 10:01 AM
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Thu Jul-19-07 10:03 AM
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23. You mean, "None yet...except for John Edwards" |
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Thu Jul-19-07 04:32 PM
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24. Final, shameless, self-kick |
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Thu Jul-19-07 04:40 PM
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teddy roosevelt was a war monger. he was the head cheerleader for invading cuba.
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Thu Jul-19-07 07:44 PM
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Today he'd be beating the Invade Iran drum!
You want a modern TR? Imagine Joe Lieberman with charisma.
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Thu Jul-19-07 07:52 PM
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some us need to read history. there may never have been a more useless war than the war teddy roosevelt was war mongering for.
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Thu Jul-19-07 05:00 PM
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28. Do you mean Franklin Roosevelt, because Teddy is not exactly very high in my list. |
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