Senator Gordon Smith admits that some Republicans didn't vote for the Iraq pullout to be spiteful.

[sandrakae]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289851,00.html

He seems to be fine with the fact that young men and woman are going to die because a few Republicans are upset over having to stay up past their bedtimes.

[LynnTheDem]

1. The Republics' way to "support the troops"; let them die for spite.

If ya vote Republic, you are an ignorant MFing idiot.

It's that simple.

[blm]

2. Kerry said this in an earlier interview - that they HAVE the majority vote if

Republicans would vote in the senate the way they feel and the reality they acknowledge in private discussions.

That's the problem with Republicans - they have no sense of citizenship to their country that trumps their party loyalty.

Here's the Boston Herald article - Kerry also makes the point that they all KNOW that Bush will start withdrawing and he's just playing political games right now.

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/politicsBlog/?p=695

You know old Rove has to roll out his newest product LINE on the war in September.

[Postman]

3. Let them all jump off the cliff.....

They will not be forgotten come November 2008.

With any luck, this will be the end of the republican party.

[Anywho6]

8. They just keep putting nail after nail in their own coffin n/t

[ooga booga]

20. Clearly, they don't think they took a political risk

They bet that there'd be no significant political fallout. Unfortunately, they MAY be right. We'll see.

[glitch]

14. Remarkably juvenile comments on that short article. Something rote about them.

Are the Herald's readers' comments always so simplistic and similar to each other? Poor Herald.That level of commentary is embarrassing.

[sandnsea]

16. The "F" stands for effette

That's a new one even on me. These are the kinds of posts that convince me the right wing pays people to do this shit. Who takes time out of their day to run around posting "F" stands for effette posts?

:rofl:

[illinoisprogressive]

4. figures. they have to play spite games while young people are dying.

[Jack Rabbit]

5. How many were upset for stayin up late in the Senate chamber

. . . as opposed to being up late with a -- ahm -- professional escort.

[whistle]

6. Can the press or someone point those republicans out so their asses can be hung out please!

...Spiteful republicans, they ought to be easy to finger! Get a room filled will republicans, then close your eyes and point :wtf:

[LostInAnomie]

7. I'll bet they were pissed.

They had hookers to fuck, pages to sexually harass, and $20 blow jobs to give. A night in the senate fucked up their plans.

[TwilightGardener]

9. Bullshit--they already knew they weren't going to vote for cloture--

they just wanted to quietly vote against Levin-Reed with little attention and fanfare, in the middle of the day, for 15 minutes, and then get on with the rest of their business with few witnesses to their obstruction. Instead, the whole country's attention was drawn to the matter. If they voted against ending the war AGAINST their consciences and against the interests of our troops and the country, just to spite Democrats for wanting an up or down vote, then they will have to live with the consequences--I hope it's burning in hell.

[babylonsister]

10. It's all political, but they have proved they don't support the troops. Big

deal in ending this nightmare.

[sandnsea]

11. Aw, he makes it so easy to keep hating him

Gordon Smith misses opportunity to tell the truth about his shitty Republican Party - opts to continue partisan smears.

Thanks for the vote Gordo. It's not going to save your smarmy ass.

[Kat 333]

15. Go Fuck Yourself Gordon Smith

Ass kissing neo con.

Everyone I know is determined to see that your sorry ass is going
down the river soon.

[Maraya1969]

12. Here are some numbers you can call tomorrow to remind them of the soldiers who will die because of

complete lack of concern for our soldiers.

D.C. and State Offices
Washington, DC Office
404 Russell Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Portland, OR Office
One World Trade Center
121 SW Salmon Street, Suite 1250
Portland, OR 97204
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Pendleton, OR Office
Jager Building
116 South Main Street, Suite 3
Pendleton, OR 97801
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
their child like behavior.


Medford, OR Office
Security Plaza
1175 East Main, Suite 2D
Medford, OR 97504
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Eugene, OR Office
Wayne Morse Federal Courthouse
405 East 8th Avenue
Eugene, OR 97401
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Bend, OR Office
Jamison Building
131 NW Hawthorne Avenue, Suite 208
Bend, OR 97701
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

[cui bono]

13. I heard that they were holdign out 2 months for "political cover"

Cover this!

Plus that they don't want a Dem resolution to be the one that gets the troops redeployed.

Support the troops my ass.

[blm]

17. Exactly - and I think that is why Kerry has been saying the GOPs are already

behind getting out of Iraq but are playing political games with the lives of the troops knowing full well that withdrawal will happen in the fall.

[Virginia Dare]

18. It's clear that the Republican leadership has made some sort of deal..

with Bush, which is akin to making a deal with the devil by the way, to not do anything until September, buying into some delusion that things will somehow miraculously improve. It was a brilliant move on the Dems part to start the push now, knowing full well their hands were tied, and things will continue to go south. Now they can't come out in September and say THEY were behind getting out troops out of this debacle.

[cui bono]

21. It's sooooooo disgusting.

And now I just heard Thom Hartmann saying that most news coverage is saying the bill "died" when in fact it was never allowed to be brought to vote by the Grand Obstructionist Party.

I only read the initial stories and they did say Repubs blocked the vote although you had a to read a bit to get to that part. The headlines did make it sound like the Dems were defeated. Surprisingly the LAT story was better than WaPo and NYT.

[blondeatlast]

19. UBSTRUCTIONIST RRRepublicans up for re-election in 2008 and their vote

on Levin/Reed cloture:
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/two_column_table/Class_II.htm

YES TO CLOTURE (and they both had wxpressed publicly support for Levin/Reed):
Collins, Susan M. (R-ME)
Hagel, Chuck (R-NE)
Note: Olympia Snowe has stated that she is unlikely to run again.

OBSTRUCTIONISTS TO BRINGING OUR SOLDIEERS HOME:
Alexander, Lamar (R-TN)
Allard, Wayne (R-CO)
Chambliss, Saxby (R-GA)
Cochran, Thad (R-MS)
Coleman, Norm (R-MN)
Cornyn, John (R-TX)
Craig, Larry E. (R-ID)
Dole, Elizabeth (R-NC)
Domenici, Pete V. (R-NM)
Enzi, Michael B. (R-WY)
Graham, Lindsey (R-SC)
Inhofe, James M. (R-OK)
McConnell, Mitch (R-KY)
Roberts, Pat (R-KS)
Sessions, Jeff (R-AL)
Smith, Gordon H. (R-OR)
Stevens, Ted (R-AK)
Sununu, John E. (R-NH)
Warner, John (R-VA)

Note: these are only Senators up for re-election. The full roll call can be found at the link above.

[leez34]

22. Your list

is wrong. Gordon Smith voted in favor of cloture.

[blondeatlast]

25. My mistake--Smith did indeed vote for cloture. nt

[TwilightGardener]

23. Not quite right--Smith, Hagel and Snowe voted for cloture AND

supported/cosponsored Levin-Reed. Collins voted for cloture but has publicly said she doesn't support Levin-Reed.

[leez34]

24. -

That is also a good thing to point out. You give props to Collins even though her vote was probably just a political movement - voting "yea" to something she knew wouldn't pass so she could cover her ass with Maine voters. However, you slander Gordon Smith, who has been consistently distancing himself from his Republican colleagues, at least on issues of the war. IIRC, he was the first Republican senator to speak out against it.

Btw, what do "n/t," "eom," and "K+R" mean? I'm a noob and couldn't see a reference to them in the FAQ. Also, sorry if I used the wrong letters, but I think you'll know what I mean.

[TwilightGardener]

27. Actually, I didn't slander Smith--I have defended him pretty consistently

over the past few months for voting where his mouth was. I appreciate his stand. I just think the idea that some GOPer Senators were actually going to vote for cloture and then changed their mind because of the all-nighter is bull--that's just a way for the GOP to try to "get back" at the Dems for the sleepover. Warner, Lugar et al. had already declared they would not vote for timelines on the war--I doubt Voinovich or Domenici would have either. I don't give props to Collins--she's spineless. Her cloture vote was nice, but not especially helpful if she won't add her support for Levin-Reed. Hagel was the first Repub Senator (besides Chaffee? or Jeffords?) to criticize the war, has been doing it for years now, much to the detriment of his political career here in red Nebraska and nationally within the GOP--he's a true rebel on the issue, even warned about the unintended consequences that might come of our invasion of Iraq in a floor speech before he cast his vote on the IWR in 2002. Smith has been vocal largely within the last year, at least according to what I've read from a George Will column. I think he is genuinely opposed, though most folks (including his constituents who post here) think he's doing it for re-election purposes. n/t = no text, eom = end of message (same purpose as n/t), K= kick (sends thread back to the top of the pile), R = recommend. Welcome to DU!

[flying rabbit]

29. Smith follows the wind

Here is a handy DU glossary for your edification. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x190
:hi: welcome to the jungle

[alstephenson]

26. PRICKS! eom

[tblue37]

28. It's a lie. Easy to say, "We would have voted with you if only

you hadn't done this or that," but if theDems hedn't done this or that, not only would the Repubs NOT have voted with them, they also would not have paid the price in bad publicity.

[AX10]

30. Let the GOP run over the cliff!

The Republicans are willing to let US troops die just to make a political point! Vile Bastards! :argh:
I am ready to cut off their balls and fry'em come November 2008!

:mad:

:puke: