Police State coming a must read

[april]

We all need to pay attention !!!


Americans think their danger is terrorists," said Roberts. "They don't understand the terrorists cannot take away habeas corpus, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution. ... The terrorists are not anything like the threat that we face to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution from our own government in the name of fighting terrorism. Americans just aren't able to perceive that."

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Oldline_Republican_warns_somethings_in_works_0719.html

[Vilis Veritas]

1. Pay attention? No way...I got way too much stuff to do.

1. Go to Walmart.
2. Buy Kool-aid.
3. Go home.
4. Make Kool-aid.
5. Drink till happy.
6. Repeat 1-5

I don't think I even need the tag with this one...

[irislake]

2. Too late

you're in it now! You'll be needing the underground railway again. Those Halliburton-built internment camps ain't for the Mexicans and Muslims!

[zonmoy]

4. he speaks the truth.

[bananas]

3. 7/19/07 Thom Hartmann interviews Paul Craig Roberts

audio link in the article in the OP.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

6. anybody have a link to the audio that is not Quicktime?

My comp refuses to play QT files....

[Beam Me Up]

7. try this

it is an MP3 link posted in this thread:
http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?showtopic=115714

Can't link to it directly, sorry, and it only covers the first part of the interview, IIRC

[ellenfl]

12. kick for later eom

[bananas]

8. It's actually an mp3 file - you can rename it to .mp3

I just renamed it from .mov to .mp3 and winamp played it.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

10. cool!

thanks.

[bananas]

11. Let me know if that worked for you

It might not be a completely standard mp3 format.
This interview is frightening.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

14. It's actually playing fine, with no changes...

stand alone player on the web page. :)

and yes, extremely frightening. :scared:

[Greyhound]

15. BTW, Winamp will play Quicktime, Winblows, and Real formats.

Just go into the preferences and file types.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

17. Hey, I was just thinking about you guys...

You up for doing something this weekend?

[bananas]

18. Not for winamp 5.35

It has windows media formats, but not quicktime or realplayer.
I just tried opening a streaming realaudio url - "error syncing to stream"
There used to be a plug-in that would let winamp play realplayer streams and files.
Are you using a plug-in?

[Greyhound]

31. Damn, you're right. I've been using Winamp for so long I didn't even notice it went away. Sorry. n/t

[bananas]

32. Thanks for checking. nt

[bananas]

19. Which version of winamp are you using?

I have version 5.35, which is supposed to be the latest on winamp.com,
it doesn't list any quicktime or realplayer file types in the preferences-file types list.

[truebrit71]

5. It makes no sense that the current criminals would empower the Presidency with so much...

...authority knowing, as they must, that the next occupant of the WH will be a Democrat...

The ONLY why it makes any kind of sense is if they plan on engineering some sort of crises that postpones the next GE and declare martial law...

Otherwise, as soon as they leave office the NEXT President of the US could have them ALL rounded up and detained indefinitely without ever being charged...

They KNOW that...

So why give the Presidency so much power?

Simple, they don't plan on giving it up.

Ever.

[Beam Me Up]

9. yep

how to stage a coup on the USA

1 - steal the election
2 - stage false-flag terrorist attack
3 - use false flag to erode constitution institute pre-dictatorial infrastructure
4 - use false flat to invade ME and rip off treasury
5 - steal second election
6 - repeat 2 through 4 as necessary

[Ian_rd]

13. You forgot the most important step ...

Which is to manipulate the public to the point that THEY BEG FOR A DICTATORSHIP. The events Paul Craig Roberts described would be impossible without a substantial chunk of the American people cheering it on. And we already have this. Despite the near total failure of our media, the public (even the Fox-watching Bushbots) KNOW that Bush has assumed the power to search and seize without a warrant, to imprison without trial and due process, AND THEY LOVE HIM FOR IT! Take away more of our rights!, they scream.

A great number of people who adore Bush in this manner are the evangelical End Timers who truly believe that the Rapture is near and the Lord God will rule over the earth. Is this heavenly government to be a democracy? Is God going to need to be elected or reelected by His holy subjects? Of course not - it's a dictatorial monarchy. Couple that with their application of divinity onto our drooling monkey of a president, and you have your motivation. They WANT him to have absolute rule, and fear would be the tool to increase the acquiescence of the rest of the population that isn't as crazy as they are.

[Bullet1987]

16. I don't know about all the dictatorship rhetoric...

[ldf]

30. then you are not paying attention...

it reminds me of the saying:

"if you keep your head while all those around you are losing their's, then you obviously do not have a good grasp of the situaiton"...

but seriously, if you can't see it, then you aren't looking.

edit, too late a belated welcome...

:shrug:

[checks-n-balances]

20. EXCELLENT POINT for all those naysayers out there

you know, the ones with the "Move along folks, nothing here to worry about" attitude.

They wouldn't be going to the trouble of amassing that power if they weren't planning to USE and KEEP it.

[Perry Logan]

21. You've been hanging around conspiracy guys too much.

Despite his past accomplishments, Paul Craig Roberts is now an official 9/11 Truth Movement guy, which means:
1) that he repeats long-debunked conspiracy memes about 9/11, and
2) that he is no friend to Democrats.

I have observed the 9/11 Truth Movement since it began. Most of the Truthers hate Democrats and think they are scalawags.

Most tellingly, many Truthers repeat right-wing smears of Democrats (for example, Clinton's handling of terrorism). So they are our enemies, not our friends.

Best debunking sites:
http://www.911myths.com/
http://www.debunking911.com/
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/home

[Warren Stupidity]

23. Lead Headed Coincidence Theorists!

You guys crack me up.

[Warren Stupidity]

22. It does appear to be a logical conclusion based on the facts.

They may not do this, but it is a reasonable analysis.

[sarcasmo]

24. I have been saying this for years.

We are one Terra attack away from this becoming a reality.

[Name removed]

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[AntiFascist]

26. Non-"aryan" people may need concern....

in Hawaii I heard from native Hawaiians who were concerned about the internment camps being maintained. There has always been a movement among native Hawaiians leaning toward seccession. In California, Latinos who side with illegal immigrants also face prejudice and intense anger. There is also paranoia about this tying in with gang activity.

[lonestarnot]

27. kick

[illinoisprogressive]

28. I don't fear terrorists. I do Bush and Cheney.

[Joanne98]

29. A police state has been the long range plan all along!