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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:29 PM
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Exclusive: Picture of cleavage-bashing WAPO writer showing even more cleavage than Hil
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 08:31 PM by antiimperialist
This is Robin Givhan (right side), who wrote today's Washington Post article against Hillary Clinton's cleavage.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:31 PM
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1. Left or right?
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:32 PM
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4. right
...
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:07 PM
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16. (That is Sally Quinn on the left.....) n/t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:34 PM
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23. They are both about the same size I think. nt.
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holboz Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:31 PM
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2. hmmm...obviously she's just jealous n/t
(couldn't resist)
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:31 PM
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3. And the point is?
So she wrote a silly article. She's not the first nor will she be the last.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:33 PM
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5. a silly article in the front page of a newspaper that should be discussing news
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 08:33 PM by antiimperialist
You forgot that part. And just becuase it's been done before, it doesn't make it necessary, or free of criticism.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:35 PM
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9. Sometimes even the major papers do lighter stuff on Friday. That's why it's
called "take out the trash" day. Even the NY Times prints movie reviews on Friday.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:40 PM
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10. You won't see Romney' $300 make-up job on a Friday
You can only find it in left-wing websites such as http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/07/17/romney-spent-300-on-makeup-consulting/ , and not because we consider it newsworty, but to prove the media hypocrisy.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:48 PM
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14. True, it was in the Washington Post on Tuesday:
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:01 PM
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That's an AP article, not a WaPo article
That it was reproduced by the Washington Post is irrelevant to this thread.
Nice try.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:06 PM
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33. So you don't count that they published it TWICE. It only counts with you if they
reported it.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:28 PM
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48. They didn't publish it twice. You typed the exact same link twice
Which is different.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:11 PM
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37. Neither article has a headline about makeup or hairstyles or cleavage
If the articles even mention Romney's makeup bill it is not what you get from the initial scan.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:13 PM
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38. From the first paragraph:
Mitt Romney's campaign found 9,732 ways to spend its money last quarter. From a $15 service fee for its travel agent to $300 for makeup work to $31,500 to rent the Boston Red Sox's Fenway Park for a celebratory barbecue, the Republican presidential contender was anything but fiscally conservative in spending money as fast as he raised it between April and June.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:15 PM
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39. "Romney Spending Outpaces Fundraising" the headline.
"Hillary Clinton's Tentative Dip Into New Neckline Territory" the other headline

Do you see the difference? I do.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:16 PM
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40. Yes, the Hillary story is written by the STYLE COLUMNIST. That's the difference.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:18 PM
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42. Cost Of Edwards' Haircut Hits $1,250
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/05/politics/main3019277.shtml

I guess that must also be the 'style' page of what used to be seriously referred to as CBS News.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:20 PM
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43. Take that up with CBS. It's Givhan and the Post some of us are tearing down here.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:22 PM
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46. It is a coordinated media campaign. Sorry if Robin got used. nt.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:21 PM
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44. You forgot what a headline is
And no Washington Post reporter bothered to dedicate their time to Romney's lavish spending. They had to do it the easy way. Pulled a canned AP article. Doesn't that show you where their priorities are?
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:38 PM
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25. The article is on C1, not A1 -- not on the frontpage. It's a feature article...
all newspapers have feature articles. Ms. Givhan is a style/fashion writer, not a political writer. And is no fan of the Bush regime.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:34 PM
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6. that's not cleavage
that's living dangerously
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:34 PM
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7. Time to write an e-mail! letters@washingtonpost.com nt
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:35 PM
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8. apparently she's an equal op criticizer - got Pulitzer for it last year
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2006/04/17/LI2006041700592.html

criticized Cheney, and Kindasleezy too - tho she supported Harris saying those who called her "dragon lady" were cruel
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:42 PM
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11. If Cheney's was a front-page story, I'll be quiet
But i doubt it.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:48 PM
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15. Cheney's cleavage? Ugh!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:09 PM
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36. It was in exactly the same section that the current one is.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:42 PM
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28. She wupped ass on Katherine Harris. nt
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:43 PM
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12. She's horrible.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:40 PM
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27. Please. The article is about fashion. Ms. Givhan is most decidedly not horrible.
If she has an argument with Mrs. Clinton, it's about fashion. That's Givhan's beat -- fashion and style.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:01 PM
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30. You don't get it.
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 10:09 PM by Warren Stupidity
There is a coordinated media campaign attacking each Democratic front runner with a swarm of completely irrelevant issues that are personal, play to psychological markers that have been identified by their propaganda wonks as resonant, and are intended to damage each of these candidates AND TAKE THE PULBIC's ATTENTION OFF OF WHAT IS GOING ON.

Edwards has been literally faggotized.
Osama Obama was secretly raised as a terrorist muslim.
Clinton is a WOMAN WITH BREASTS AND PROBABLY A VAGINA TOO!

Meanwhile over in Iraq...

Meanwhile the white house has decided that it is above the law...

Meanwhile we are plunging off the global warming cliff...
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 01:42 AM
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51. I agree with you --
but I also know that this writer is not part of that effort. I can't argue further, however, because I really can't say more -- so I'll let this thread alone now.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:05 PM
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32. I don't know- I find her ugly, but that's just me...
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 10:05 PM by Katzenkavalier
Hillary is way better looking and sexier than this lady.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 01:45 AM
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52. You're judging her looks by one candid photo. I agree that Hillary is a very attractive woman. nt
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:47 PM
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13. Hillary showed cleavage?
The nerve of that woman - :sarcasm:
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:10 PM
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17. Did this detail-obsessed writer notice the bulge in Bush's suit?
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 09:39 PM by antiimperialist
A bulge in a suit falls in the category of fashion, and I don't recall the Washington Post ever discussing the story of the NASA photo analyst, who has analyzed photos from Saturn's moon Titan, and who is also a Caltech analyst, who concluded that the bulge in Bush's suit during his debate against Kerry in '04 was
"consistent with the appearance of an electronic device worn in that manner." The image of lines coursing up and down the president's back, Nelson adds, is "consistent with a wire or a tube."



The Washington Post did run an article on the bulge, but on page A-16, and they were uncritical and just repeated what Bush, the White House and the DNC had to say, without providing analysis of the obvious electronic device.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 01:54 AM
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53. She covers fashion and style, not public officials who may be cheating in debates. She covered...
for example, Dick Cheney's showing disrespect by dressing too casually for a solemn occasion in Europe. I can't recall the ceremony just now. And she covered Katherine Harris's make-up overkill. She also covers fashion designers and their collections. She's a feature writer, not a news writer. Her pieces appear in the Style section, not in the news section.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:13 PM
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18. if I'm not mistaken, Sally Quinn is showing only a bit less cleavage than Hillary
in that photo. And they are closer to the same age, so perhaps a better comparison.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:08 PM
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34. Of course that picture was taken at a fashion event, not on the Senate floor.
So both comparisons are bogus.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:16 PM
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41. Yes this is shocking


not.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:22 PM
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45. It's your choice if you think so. The article's author didn't think it was shocking. NT
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:24 PM
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47. Oh? Just a 'provocation' then.
"To display cleavage in a setting that does not involve cocktails and hors d'oeuvres is a provocation"

Sorry but this was a hit piece. Why you don't get that is beyond my comprehension.

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:28 PM
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49. And I agree with what follows in that paragraph:
"It requires that a woman be utterly at ease in her skin, coolly confident about her appearance, unflinching about her sense of style. Any hint of ambivalence makes everyone uncomfortable. And in matters of style, Clinton is as noncommittal as ever."
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Tanuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:14 PM
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19. Thanks for exposing Robin's
hypocrisy.:evilgrin:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:25 PM
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20. Givhen's didn't say there was anything wrong with it, but it was uncharacteristic
from Senator Clinton.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:29 PM
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21. ABSOLUTELY! Believe me, Ms Givhan is no fan of the Bush regime. This is a FEATURE article...
blown all out of proportion by talk shows. Robin Givhan is a STYLE/FASHION writer, not a political writer. All newspapers have feature sections that are not hard news. All of them.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:31 PM
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22. Very true. I have no idea why everyone's panties are in a wad (to use a style term)
about this.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:34 PM
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24. LOL! I guess that IS a Style term! nt
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:38 PM
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26. Ok I am obviously very stupid.
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 09:44 PM by Warren Stupidity


That is showing a lot of cleavage?

"She was talking on the Senate floor about the burdensome cost of higher education. She was wearing a rose-colored blazer over a black top. The neckline sat low on her chest and had a subtle V-shape. The cleavage registered after only a quick glance. No scrunch-faced scrutiny was necessary. There wasn't an unseemly amount of cleavage showing, but there it was. Undeniable."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/19/AR2007071902668.html?nav=hcmodule

No actually it is completely deniable.

*disclaimer* I have no intention of voting for Clinton in the primaries, but this is just more idiotic bullshit from our friends over at the Bullshit Media System

On edit:

"To display cleavage in a setting that does not involve cocktails and hors d'oeuvres is a provocation"

Oh I am indeed provoked. But it is not about the suggestion that Hillary actually has tits.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:46 PM
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29. Okay....are those stretch marks photoshopped in?
Her right breast has an odd discolored shape at the top of the decolletage and the left has "stretch makrks" that mimic the shape on the right......

Or were they trying to airbrush them out?




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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 08:11 AM
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54. That's OK--just say whatever the hell comes into your mind...
Edited on Sat Jul-21-07 08:12 AM by Perry Logan
...however vile. Please don't edit yourself. It's all so brilliant.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 12:01 PM
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56. What, exactly, is vile about asking a question? I was totally serious....
Who published the photo? Did they try to air brush the marks out? Did somebody put them in on purpose to embarrass her?

The photo is manipulated (or seemingly so), I just wanted to know what possible reason someone could have for doing that.....

That popping noise you'll hear someday will be your head coming out of your butt....don't be too alarmed by the bright lights and fresh air out here. Maybe you won't be so crabby when you get some clean oxygen into your brain.


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democratsin08 Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:03 PM
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31. aagh
she looks grotesque
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:08 PM
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35. Hillary did not show the stretch marks on her breast at least
I'm sorry, perhaps it's just me, but I think that it's tacky to show our breast like that when we have stretch marks.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 11:14 PM
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50. Conservative magazine predicted today's article
On June 2006, Conservative magazine National Review prophetically predicted, "Washington Post Style section piece by a Pulitzer Prize winner about Hillary's sex-appeal advantage." http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZmEwODcwYmZmMWU0NTUzNjQyOTk1Yjg1MGNjYzkwZDI=
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 09:48 AM
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55. HRC's cleavage...what a story for the RW. This shold not even register
on the "big deal" meter.

Where was the RW when bush ran around w/that absurd " manly bulge" on the carrier?

Where is the RW whenever Laura goes around in essentially colorful burlap bags?

I guess it is now a crime to dress like a woman if you happen to be one...:eyes:

I heard about this yesterday on the radio, one would think there would be more pressing things to discuss, but not for the RW....surprised they didn't add that she 'might' wear flag motifed underwear, and keep an entourage of fashion gurus...:(

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