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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:56 PM
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Source: Al Gore's Son Had 140 Vicodin Pills
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20047643,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines


FRIDAY JULY 20, 2007 06:00 PM EDT

By Ken Lee

Al Gore III


Al Gore's son was charged with felony drug-possession charges and lesser offenses related to his July 4 speeding stop, authorities said Friday. And a law enforcement source tells PEOPLE that Gore had 140 Vicodin pills and "dozens" of other prescription drugs.

If convicted on all charges, Albert Gore III faces up to three years and eight months in prison. But state law makes him eligible for a drug diversion program instead of incarceration, according to the Orange County District Attorney's Office.

His arraignment is set for Aug. 1 in Laguna Niguel, Calif.

Gore, 24, was pulled over south of Los Angeles in a blue Toyota Prius around 2:15 a.m. July 4 for allegedly driving more than 100 mph.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:57 PM
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1. Not good at all for Gore III.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:58 PM
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2. Dang prius was going over 100 MPH
:wow:
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Unreconstructed Lib Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:03 PM
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5. Doesn't that break the record for the Prius?
I read, somewhere, that Toyota claims the top speed for a Prius is 96 mph.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:04 PM
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7. You mean for mph or for number of Vicodins found inside one? n/t
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:11 PM
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15. That's what I was thinking
:)
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Maq Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:18 PM
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18. maybe he was doing SPEED like the truckers
piss poor joke, as I don't even know what speed is. laugh anyway.

Toyota could increase the top speed of a Prius if they will issue some pills. suggestion......
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:06 PM
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11. This is from "People Magazine" Time-Warner." You wanna believe this?
Like who might be counting the pills...like were the pills really there ....like maybe the kid needs help but if he was a Repug Kid...it would be covered up. :shrug:

We might not know the "truth" of it...from this reporting.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:08 PM
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13. Jeb Bush's daughter wasn't "covered up"
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:19 PM
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19. Who is talking about Jeb Bush's Daughter.. This happened to Gore July 4th and article
doesn't really give any new info...

All the article gives is the hearing date and some person who says they "counted the pills in the car." Notice...he wasn't accused of "driving under the influence" or "reckless driving" except for his speed..and how many cops stop cars and accuse drivers of going way over speed limit just to give a ticket. :shrug:

Note article dated July 20th when his son was arrested July 4th. Story didn't get enough "play" over holiday so "People Rag/Mag" had to repost it to make sure the Wingers pick up on it. But, there's no knew info...except some cop says he "counted the number of pills in the car."

FRIDAY JULY 20, 2007 06:00 PM EDT
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:27 AM
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41. This reminds me
of the house story, KoKo. Al Gore bought a large, older home in Nashville years ago and has been in the process of updating it and making it more energy efficient. His movie "An Inconvenient Truth" came out last year, The Gannett Corp. owned Tennessean waited until two days after A.I.T. won two Academy Awards, only to come out with their half ass researched front page story that Al Gore's energy bill is higher than the average American's as if this were breaking news! They just couldn't stand the thought of him having good P.R. for any length of time. The corporate media used the same tactics during the run up to the selection of 2000, whenever Al started to pull ahead of Bush.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:00 PM
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3. Rehab
before death from an OD or a car wreck. That guy wasn't thinking. This may save his life. Maybe put him on a new track. Good luck.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:00 PM
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He won't serve a day.
The Just Us system will see to it.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:06 PM
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10. Are you joking? This is Al Gore's son. They probably would like to give him the death penalty
Gore is not one of the Just Us people any longer.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:15 PM
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16. Are you joking?
The hypocrisy level has already pegged and broken off the needle on the old bullshit meter. The courts will use this as a way to show how fair and balanced they are.

The last thing they would do is give Al and Tipper prime time whining about their biased corruption.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 11:13 PM
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36. I couldn't disagree with you more for all kinds of reasons
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 11:22 PM
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37. OK,
I guess time will tell.

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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:08 PM
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12. The Diversion Program Is Available to All
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 09:10 PM by AndyTiedye
as long as it is simple possesion and 1st or 2nd offence.

Proposition 36.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:43 PM
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35. Does prop 36 include
any mention of reckless endangerment in the attempted evasion of an officer of the law preforming his duty? That would seem to be a slight disqualifier in most leniency cases to me.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:38 AM
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42. I haven't read,
they charged him with evading arrest? I have read they charged him with speeding and possession of pot and pills.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 08:21 PM
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47. Exactly my point.
Do you think that fleeing from police is a lesser offense, given his status? Are such charges against the public at large justified but somehow negated when the offender is rich or famous?

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:18 PM
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51. You miss my point
From what I can tell he never fleed the police, he pulled over when they started to chase him.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 08:44 PM
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52. Then where did
the 100 mph stories come from, and if he was not fleeing but just in a really big hurry, there are still issues.

I'm not watching this story closely enough I'll admit, since I don't see it as a big issue to most people.

:shrug:

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:33 PM
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54. Speeding,
has nothing to do with fleeing. I've sped before on the interstate, but I wasn't fleeing from a police officer. From what I recall of the story, it was two or three in the morning, most likely not much traffic on the road, I'm not making excuses for him, but I don't think he should be prosecuted for crimes which he did not commit.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:53 PM
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30. Calif has a drug diversion plan for first offense
He wasn't charged DUI, I believe. Just Us in Calif is everyone (first timers) I voted for that proposition.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:03 PM
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31. Did you read this part?
"state law makes him eligible for a drug diversion program instead of incarceration, according to the Orange County District Attorney's Office"

I despise special treatment for those who have, but in this case it appears the law favors him not serving time.

Having said that, the only thing I hate worse than special treatment for those who have, is putting non-violent drug users in prison.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:37 PM
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33. I don't want to see him go to prison either.
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 10:49 PM by DiktatrW
But I have this feeling that if his name was Brown, or Jackson, and he had been caught fleeing the police in a high speed chase with drugs on board while black, we would not be having this conversation. Nor would he be enjoying bail or the mention of a drug diversion plan plan even existing. Isn't a high speed chase with illegal drugs in the vehicle considered to be reckless endangerment, felonious evasion of the law or some such cleverly worded shit that puts you behind bars until sentencing?

Would you feel the same way if Florida had the exact same laws, and in the exact same conditions, they had apprehended Rush Limbaugh with his Oxy-Contin doing 100 miles an hour evading capture?

I don't think that you would be defending Rush with the same veracity, nor would I.

But as long as loopholes remain for the privileged to dance free of these outrages laws, they will continue to be in place and only made worse by those who pretend to protect us by enacting and expanding them for our benefit, when in reality is all a show to get elected as a tough on crime legislator. Edit: as long as they leave an exclusion for themselves or anyone they know from being covered under them.

As long as these laws are imprisoning people without recourse, then all must suffer equally.

Put Gore's boy in a cell directly across from Limbaugh for a year, with all the other first offenders next to them, and let the chips fall where they should have fallen.

I would put them in a cell together, but I think Rush would do something I don't approve of.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 11:35 PM
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38. I didn't mean it to sound as if you wanted him to go to prison
I can see how what I said could have been taken that way. I assure you that wasn't my intent.

Now as for Rush, yes, I would feel the same way. I'm nothing if not consistent when it comes to my feelings about incarcerating addicts for drug use. I don't think it's the way to deal with the situation. Period. The only exception I make is if they were involved in violent criminal activity. Then they have to do the time for that crime, but I'd still like to see them get real help for the addiction part. Not all people want to stop and change their life, but it's worth it for the lives that can be changed.

The good thing is I feel this should apply to all people no matter their incomes or status.

It's alright if how I feel about this issue annoys you. You won't be the first, you won't even be in the first 100. :)

I also believe that our prisons are clogged with poor and minority drug users that have no business being in there. In many (most?) cases they'd never have to set foot in the doors if they were white or had money/status. If that were the case they'd be sent off to a nice private rehab. Where they recreate and socialize and not even have to utilize the program. A chance that so many poor/minoity people are never offered.

You'd think by now we'd have realized that incarcerating addicts doesn't do a damn thing to fix the problem. That we haven't, for me, is mind boggling and frustrating.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 11:52 PM
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40. I am in total agreement,
but I see no change in this situation until those who make the rules suffer under them as equals.

Addiction is a bitch. (he types as he lights a cig and opens a beer)

Non violent offenders are choking the jails and costing a fortune, maybe they could replace those missing American farm workers McCain pines for.

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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:00 PM
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4. Are they charging him with intent to distribute them?
Or is he claiming they were for his personal use? That is a lot of pills!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:04 PM
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6. It's very probable they try to charge him with distribution given the amount of pills.
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:20 PM
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20. I think that's bullshit. My doctor writes an oxy prescription for 120 a month. 140 isn't that
many more. Plus didn't someone say he had some issue such as ADD(example guess) where they always load you up on prescriptions?
I'm just saying that maybe its not as nefarious as they're making it out to be...
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 09:21 PM
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48. Vicodin is a pain medication..
it has nothing to do with ADD.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:20 PM
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21. What happened to Rush Limbaugh over this? Was Gore, jr. dealing at Denny's
and getting his maid to do brown bag deals for him?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:25 PM
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25. Do you believe this report? How do we know the truth of it? n/t
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:27 PM
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26. that's not alot of pills...
is it? If I had a script for like one every six hours...that would be like 120 pills for a month? It's not like he had 500 grams of coke, and was a state treasurer or something.
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Unreconstructed Lib Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:04 PM
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8. I wonder if he had the stuff in his blood stream.
I haven't followed the story too closely but, if he was high and driving like that, I sincerely hope, for his family's sake and for his own, that he gets some help.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:08 PM
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14. Last I read, they tested him and he was clean....they just found those pills
in the car...and smelled pot when they pulled him over. :shrug: At least that's what I read from articles posted from CA Newspapers posted here on DU.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:16 PM
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17. He wasn't charged with a DUI. He was going 100 but he wasn't
under the influence.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:36 PM
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I wonder what other things will be snooped about this young man. He was speeding and that was all.
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 09:37 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
yet Republican members of Congress can solicit minors or buy prostitutes and nary a peep.

MKJ

on edit uncovered to snooped.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:36 PM
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28. Dupe.
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 10:16 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
MKJ
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:05 PM
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9. Eh. Tabloid news remains the same, just change the names.
Bad move for the kid, though.
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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:24 PM
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22. He better get off just as easy as Limpo did.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:24 PM
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23. So many times the sons of the successful are messed up. I guess the bar is
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 09:26 PM by Peregrine Took
so high they feel they can't surpass it and they just give up trying or else their dad's are so hard on them they rebel by becoming law breakers.

I knew the family of a very successful surgeon and the daughters of the family were able to completely skate free of all their many infractions but the sons were held to a much higher, almost unattainable standard and either wouldn't or couldn't meet it so they dropped out and became the family "losers." Very sad, considering the girls were, by their families position, able to marry well and became society doyennes/country club types.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:24 PM
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dupe.
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 09:25 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
too many open windows. MKJ
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:24 PM
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24. Calling Rush Limbaugh. Weren't you buying from your housekeeper and taking Viagra to the Dominican
Republic under someone else's name?

Oh, that's right, you "carry water" for the right people. MKJ
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:43 AM
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44. Exactly. 100 pills was a few days usage for the pig-man... n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:28 PM
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27. Lucky he was caught in California nt
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:51 PM
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29. Couple thousand more and he'll be in Limbaugh territory.
So he should be facing similar stiff penalties.
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:35 PM
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32. Damn.
I hope that this incident will be the catalyst for Gore's son to get sober.

Addiction is a horrible thing and it doesn't discriminate. You can raise your child 'right' and still have that child become an addict.

The Gore family is definitely in my thoughts. I have a family member who is an addict and it is an extremely hard thing to deal with.



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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:38 PM
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34. Plea deal.
If he names names -- who sold the pills to him -- he'll get a lesser punishment.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 11:51 PM
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39. All the best to the Gore family to have to go through this zoo cage crap
I hope Al 3 goes through the drug diversion program and fixes up his act. All the best to the Gores.


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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:39 AM
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43. I hope he gets the same punishment Rush Limbaugh got.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 05:12 PM
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45. Me too
Punishing addicts is medieval. And it doesn't even work...which means it's not about correcting dangerous behavior, it's about feeling morally superior to someone who's in a bad place.

Young Gore needs to be clean and sober, not incarcerated.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:09 PM
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46. fucking pigs, leave the kid alone
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:58 AM
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49. Well, the question is how many Vicodin pills did Rush have...
and still managed to get off with no jail time????? hmmmmmmm????

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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 02:48 AM
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50. That's quite a bit of dope.
He must have been headed to a rave or something.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 08:48 PM
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53. Anyone know what Al III is up to these days?
Is he out of school? Does he have a job?
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