Gore Daughter: '08 Run Not Happening

[TeamJordan23]

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/07/gore-daughter-0.html

Gore Daughter: '08 Run Not Happening
July 21, 2007

ABC News' Teddy Davis Reports: During a Friday book signing in Washington, D.C., one of former Vice President Gore's daughters seemed to go further than her father in saying that a 2008 White House run was not going to happen.

"He's really not going to get in the race," said Kristin Gore when asked if she has any special insight into her father's political plans. "He's really liberated working on things he cares about."

The former vice president regularly says that he has "no plans to be a candidate for president." But by stopping short of a "so-called Sherman statement," completely ruling out a presidential run, speculation has continued to surround the future plans of the man who won the 2000 popular vote for president.

Kristin Gore was at Politics and Prose bookstore to discuss her recently published second novel. "Sammy's House," in the words of the book's promotional literature, is about a "courageous and klutzy heroine" who works as a health-care adviser to a newly elected administration.

[Alexander]

1. I could not care less what a politician's kid says.

If Big Al is determined not to get in the 2008 race, why can't he just say these things himself?

[still_one]

5. He already did say it, people just didn't listen

they read something more into his statement. His apperance on Larry King should have answered it for most people

[BobRossi]

8. And people just don't get it.

Perhaps they are the offspring of these folk:
http://www.jofreeman.com/photos/Pentagon67.html

[maximusveritas]

12. What exactly did he say?

I missed it.

[Pastiche423]

13. This appearance?

"I have not closed the door on being a candidate"

Al Gore Tuesday May 22, 2007 Larry King Live

[Alexander]

31. Yes, he said "I have NOT closed the door on being a candidate"...

"I have not closed the door on being a candidate"

Al Gore Tuesday May 22, 2007 Larry King Live

It looks like you're the one who reads into his statements a little too much.

What's the matter? Scared Al will beat your favorite candidate?

[Colobo]

11. Because he probably thinks it should be obvious by now.

[Alexander]

33. Obvious that he said "I have not closed the door on being a candidate"?

Yes, it's obvious to those of us in the reality-based community. :eyes:

[RestoreGore]

25. He has, you just aren' t listening

And actually, as a private citizen he doesn't have to say it the way YOU WANT IT. And she isn't just some "politician's kid." Wow, for people who claim to support him they sure are rude regarding him.

[Alexander]

32. Al Gore has said "I have not closed the door on being a candidate"

So quit making your habitually dishonest statements, please.

"I have not closed the door on being a candidate"

Al Gore Tuesday May 22, 2007 Larry King Live

I know you don't want him to run. Quit raining on the parade of those who do want him to run.

[RestoreGore]

50. IN THE FUTURE

If you are going to bitch about dishonesty, practice what you preach.

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_ell_206_18/06/2007_84651

‘Some oil companies see me as an enemy’

Al Gore speaks to Kathimerini about his global environmental campaign, the invasion of Iraq and George W. Bush’s mistakes

By Alexis Papachelas - Kathimerini

It isn’t easy to put oneself in Al Gore’s shoes. In 2000, he won a majority of votes in the US presidential election, only to be defeated just a few days later.

He has changed a lot since I last saw him in 1998: He has put on weight, and his manner is heavier too. He almost seems irritated by questions that take him back to that painful electoral showdown with George W. Bush.

I met with him during his brief visit to Athens, and wondered how different it would have been had he been elected president. The US Embassy kept a discreet but polite distance from the event, and his security detail was strictly Greek, without the involvement of the US Secret Service. A single, young assistant followed Gore everywhere, rather than the scores of officials who accompany a president.

Straightforward, a little stiff, Gore seems impassioned, not only when he talks about the environment, but also when he criticizes Bush’s mistakes, mainly in Iraq. Asked if he’s interested in the presidency, he says he’s not: “I have not ruled out the possibility of running again at some point in the future, but I doubt that that will happen.”

Gore has come to love Greece. His friends say he “found himself again” after the shock of 2000 when he vacationed on Crete as a guest of banker Minos Zombanakis. He seems to have found his role outside the narrow confines of politics. He enjoys his rock-star status in relation to the environment and feels that there is life after politics.

[Alexander]

51. You twist Gore's actual words and call me dishonest. Lovely.

"If youare going to bitch about dishonesty, practice what you preach."

Your argument has been reduced to a hilarious personal attack that is totally unrelated to the subject.

You can't even debate the topic at hand any more, because you know you're wrong.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Really, you're too much. Have a better one. :-)

Since you edited your post to include something more meaningful, I might as well oblige.

"Asked if he’s interested in the presidency, he says he’s not: “I have not ruled out the possibility of running again at some point in the future, but I doubt that that will happen.”"

What part of "I haven't ruled it out" do you not understand?

[RestoreGore]

52. What part of in the future do you not understand?

And what part of being an adult living a certain life for years that is hard to close the door on simply because it was a part of your life for so long do you not understand? I understand his words fine and the reasons why he stated them because I'm not one obsessing over him running as if it is the only damn thing we need to worry about right now, and I am beginning to question the motives of those who do NOTHING but that here. It is people here such as yourself who constantly give the false impression that he is some sort of prevaricating conniving liar that angers me, because he is not. If he says he doesn't have plans, he doesn't have plans. If he says he has fallen out of love with politics and does not foresee planning on running, he isn't. I respect and believe his words and I support his work now which is INFINITELY more important than BS speculation and political maneuvering. And if you really gave a damn about this planet you would be doing more than pissing on people who do care.

[Alexander]

59. You are obsessed with telling people he shouldn't run.

"I understand his words fine and the reasons why he stated them because I'm not one obsessing over him running as if it is the only damn thing we need to worry about right now, and I am beginning to question the motives of those who do NOTHING but that here."

Just about every single one of your posts has been vehemently opposed to a Gore run. Pardon me if I don't take you seriously when you say you aren't "obsessing" over him running, because you clearly are.

And just in case your sentence included a backhanded reference to me, I invite you to search for some of my posts and determine for yourself if they are all about Gore, which they clearly aren't (and never have been).

"It is people here such as yourself who constantly give the false impression that he is some sort of prevaricating conniving liar that angers me, because he is not."

I never accused Gore of lying. Never. Maybe when you start debating honestly, you will know better than to put words in my mouth.

I see the skill, however, is far beyond your capabilities at this time.

"If he says he doesn't have plans, he doesn't have plans."

Yet. One can make plans. Another concept clearly beyond your reach.

"If he says he has fallen out of love with politics and does not foresee planning on running, he isn't."

Then pray tell, O scholar of all things Gore, why he continually says that he "won't rule out" a run?

Why not issue a statement with exactly the same certainty as the one in 2002, where he definitively said "I will not run in 2004"? Answer me that.

You can't, so you keep changing the subject. I'm calling you on your bullshit. Your whining and temper tantrums are a result of this.

"I respect and believe his words and I support his work now which is INFINITELY more important than BS speculation and political maneuvering."

Some of us feel he can do a better job pushing for climate change as president. A pity you won't listen to even the most reasonable voices on this topic. Anyone who agrees with you is wrong, thinks Gore is a liar, etc., yes, we know already. Can you play any other tunes?

"And if you really gave a damn about this planet you would be doing more than pissing on people who do care."

Oh, so all of a sudden I'm anti-Earth? Are you psychic now? You don't know a goddamn thing about who I am or what my motives are. You sure think you're psychic, though, enough to lead you to break the DU rules. Can you tell what I had for breakfast this morning, too? Or does your clairvoyance start (and end) with politics? :eyes:

Every time someone disagrees with you, you question their motives. Every time someone presents a valid reason why Gore would make a great president, you attack them. You repeat that you don't think Gore should run and that you care so much about the environment, but if you really did, maybe you'd consider laying off the cheap personal attacks, learning to respect other people's views and using your extra time to go plant some trees.

[Blue Belle]

64. Amen!

Well done!

:applause:

[Bullet1987]

78. He was talking about the future...not 2008

[Alexander]

80. 2008 *is* the future.

I highly doubt he was referring to a 2012 or 2016 run. He'd be relatively old for a president by that point.

[Bullet1987]

86. No...the way he words it is by saying 2008 he will not run,

but don't rule out later campaign cycles. Of course 2008 is the future, but he was not talking about 2008.

[Alexander]

88. Find a quote where he specifically rules out a 2008 run.

You won't find it, because it doesn't exist.

[MonkeyFunk]

95. He's 59 years old

2012 or even 2016 isn't out of the question.

[Alexander]

97. Not out of the question...

But Gore himself invoked a comparison with Nixon when he was musing several years ago about what could happen in 2008.

Plus, I like to think we'll have an incumbent Democrat in 2012, and the VP will win in 2016.

[Blue Belle]

65. What is she supposed to say?

If he does decide to run, would she really be the first to spill the beans?

[Alexander]

77. My thoughts exactly.

Gore will be the one to announce his plans, whatever they turn out to be.

Kristin Gore is hilarious and does a great job with Futurama, but she wouldn't be the one running for president.

[sallyseven]

2. I do not want Gore to run.

He went through enough bs to fill a life time. He is too good a guy to be put back in that position. Those rotten repuks will drag him through the mud again and then cheat him out of his win.

[Kokonoe]

20. Let them

He can show America what this country has become. Is there anybody else. All of us had a potential to help shape the world to the point of direction it is to date. But Albert Gore decided long ago what the unwavering direction should be. I think he shows true north.

[BobRossi]

3. No shit.

When will the dreamers wake up and smell the Starbucks?

[Like It Is]

4. Make it Official!

Quit playing games Al, release your voters so they can join up with Joe Biden, the most credible Democrat running.

[BobRossi]

7. Who's playing games?

Al who has made no hint of running, or those that think hope is a battle plan?

[rzemanfl]

9. Huh? Biden "credible?" He lost me with that stupid hat stunt at

the confirmation hearing.

[Kokonoe]

21. I think he meant creditable

After all, he represents the credit industry.

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[Yael]

6. I feel for the guy

He has a soul left. Now anyway. Can you imagine how draining jumping into this fray would be?

I for one would like to see him run as he has a chance and is not a corporate shill, but he has a life now and is doing well. Can't blame him for not wanting to roll in the mud again.

[TwilightGardener]

10. He's not going to run--Hillary, Obama and Edwards have got it covered--they're doing fine.

[polichick]

14. Kristin was very involved with his campaign last time...

Her statement really makes me wonder why she says no much more certainly than he does. Is he playing the media for publicity to get the word out about his issues? Is she hoping he'll spare himself and not get into the race? :shrug:

[saracat]

15. Will some people please listen, NOW? Gore is NOT running.Get over it.

We have a great feild .Support our candidates.None are perfect but all are better than the GOP!

[JANdad]

18. Thank You! eom

[Milo_Bloom]

27. He's running.

Without him or clark, it is nearly impossible for a Democrat to win, since the rest of the field isn't going to attract voters.

[saracat]

28. Ha1 ha! ha! ha! ha! Ha! ha! ha! What ajoker you are! Millions of dollars say you are wrong!

[Milo_Bloom]

29. I'm not wrong. Mark it down.

First, Gore IS running. There is little real doubt of that by those who pay attention.

However, without Gore, which of the current candidates has a real chance?

Obama is the best shot, but not enough people really trust him and his rhetoric is getting more and more questionable.

We know that Clinton and Edwards can't be trusted and I know a very large group of Dean Democrats who are ready to work hard for a third party rather than vote for either of these two.

So laugh all you want, but I can promise you that neither Clinton, nor Edwards, nor any of the war candidates have a chance at this office.

[sellitman]

34. Your crystal ball is cracked my friend.

As much as I like Gore ...he ain't running. If you had read his last book this fact would be glaring. As for a third party run that has as much chance as a King Ralph the traitor run. No liberal in their right mind would want to assure us of another 4 years of Republican rule. We saw what third party runs produce already. I am not sure which Dem will pull ahead at the end but this is a fact....whoever it is will be worlds better than what the republican run. Not even close.

[Milo_Bloom]

38. Read the book, he's running.

It was damn clear after reading it that he is running, but putting that aside.

Here are the facts. The majority of the GOP is not satisfied with their candidates and Thompson isn't going to change that. http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08rep.htm

A large % of democrats (over 35% are not satisfied with their candidates) http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08dem.htm

Independents don't like any of them.

Unless one of the parties finds a unifying figure (none of these candidates will fit that bill) neither party is going to be very strong, leaving the door wide open for Bloomberg.

I personally know a large group of Dean Democrats who are all set to work for Bloomberg should he announce. I also know Republicans who would vote for him in a heartbeat over the current choices.

There is HUGE disatisfaction with these candidates, because they are mostly seen as phony opportunists and with the exception of Obama, they have a track record that proves that meme.

If you don't understand what is going on "out there" you need to take a long hard look at the feelings in this country and understand the disatisfaction with the establishment candidates and realize how easy it will be for a social liberal/fiscal conservative with enough money to take the presidency.

[sellitman]

40. I was a "Dean Democrat"

Many of my fellow Deanics here in CT are split between a few of the candidates we have to offer but none of them that I know would vote for Bloomberg. I'd say Edwards & Obama are the clear favorites. I attend DFA meetings here too and a third party candidate is not an issue. I don't know where you come up with this but I haven't seen it. The dissatisfaction in on the Republican side not ours my friend. They are the ones who are up shits creek. The only thing that will save them is rigged machines. and vote stoppage.

[Milo_Bloom]

42. 37% of Dems disatisfied, 60% of GOP (pollingreport.com)

The GOP is done and gone and not even a issue...

This election is basically Dem vs Third Party. The third party will win if the dems don't find a candidate who can unify.

Edwards, Clinton, Biden? They can't unify, because they have proven themselves to be sellouts.

If people just try and act as a cheering section and not pay attention to what people really want, they are in big trouble come 2008.

[Laurab]

39. So which repuke is going to win?

I'm really curious. I do agree with you that Obama has the best shot, but that's about as far as it goes. I think, when push comes to shove people will vote for whichever Dem wins the nomination. It will be more difficult to win if Hillary wins, but with the pitiful crop the repukes have running, I think any one of the "top three" can do it.

Obama needs to get better known. People who don't pay that much attention to politics still don't know anything about him. I read that he is saving the nationwide stuff for later in the campaign, which is a smart move. His "rhetoric" hasn't changed as far as I can tell.

If you know a lot of "Dean Democrats" who are ready to work hard for a third party, you may as well thank them for their vote for a repuke, but I still think any one of the dems can do it - my money is on Obama if he doesn't screw up, and so far he hasn't, but when faced with the choice of ANY of the dems over any of the pitiful repuke candidates, people may have to hold their nose, but the dem will win. Mark it down.

[Milo_Bloom]

41. Not a Repuke, it will be 3rd party.

here is the problem... the repukes are even more disatisfied than the dems (see previous post for links to the polls).

"the establishment" is in big trouble right now and I fear that Obama is fast becomming an "establishment" candidate (or at least some of his rhetoric is).

Keep in mind there is someone with a BILLION dollars ready to spend... who is as socially liberal as any of the Dem candidates, but fiscally conservative as well. (If you can think back to the early days of the Dean Candidacy, THIS was his appeal... balance budgets, fiscal conservation, socially liberal)

The only way to really stop this from happening is to have a dem who can unify people and that ain't gonna happen with Clinton or Edwards who are far too divisive because of their previous voting records. Obama COULD fit the bill, but some of his "iran" and SS rhetoric is going to push some people away.

People can laugh all they want, but if they don't pay some real attention, they will fail to realize that the majority of the country doesn't like ANY of the candidates and is desperately searching for an option.

I firmly believe Al Gore will enter the race, or else he would have stopped the Draft Gore movement like he did in 2002. That billionaire I just mentioned... he already endorsed Al Gore, so if you Get Gore in the race, he doesn't enter... no strong 3rd party candidate and the white house will be democratic.

However, choose one of the "sell out" candidates (voted for the war, changed their mind, etc.) and people will flock to that billionaire.

[sellitman]

43. Your Billionaire is a phoney.

He was a Democrat who couldn't get elected as one so he switched parties and was a Republican. As soon as he saw another chance to get elected he switched again to Independent. His party flip flops have doomed his chances unless you think he can pull off a LIEberman.

LIEberman had almost 100% of the Republican vote ((Something your Billionaire friend would never get) and 1/3rd of the Democratic vote. This part he might be able to pull off if Hillary is the eventual winner. But the math still doesn't add up.

[Milo_Bloom]

46. The math adds up quite well.. see inside.

You have to think outside the 28%ers and look at the big picture... but I will instead go with national registered party actions.

Yellow Dog Democrats and Blinded Republicans will vote for whoever their party puts up, but most people do not hold those values or care specifically about D's and R's. Look a the current congressional approval ratings.

Just do the math. 35% of the dems aren't satisfied. 60% of the republicans. If he just siphoned off in those numbers and then got 70% of the independent vote... he wins without a problem.

Hell, you could cut down to 25% of the democratic vote and 50% of the GOP and 50% of the independent and he wins hands down.

Do the math. 1,000,000 voters 33% democratic, 30 % GOP and 37% independent (that is the general breakdown in the USA or very close to it)

At the %'s I gave above, he gets 82,500 votes from the dems, 150,000 votes from the GOP and 185,000 votes from the IND, to = 417,500

(Presuming a 50/50 split among DEM and GOP in Independents and little real crossover) the Demo would get 317,500 and the GOP 265,000

If you don't think that math is possible and/or realistic, you are fooling yourself.

[sellitman]

55. The soft numbers will come from both the GOP and the Dems.

The Fundies and the Conservatives will never turn out in big numbers for a social liberal. The Dems have been hurt by 3rd party candidates of late and will not line up behind any 3rd party and the Independents haven't the numbers to turn the tide.

[Milo_Bloom]

61. And my numbers accounted for that. The 3rd party wins.

[Laurab]

60. Not going to happen .

we're a two party country, like it or not, no one is going to "flock" to a third party candidate no matter how much money they have to spend. Maybe some young, idealistic people who don't like politicians in general, maybe you and your friends, but certainly not a majority of voters who know what the consequences of a repub getting in would be.

Really, it's not that large a percentage of people not happy with the dems - the unhappy repugs on the other hand - that number is huge. A lot of people aren't anywhere near as involved in politics as most on this board, and won't care as much about the "sell out" candidates, as you call them. They'll maybe watch a debate or two when election season is closer, read about the candidates, talk to their friends, and make their decision based on that. From what I've seen, DU isn't really representative of the average voter - there's far more knowledge here.

Gore may enter the race, although it's looking like he's not going to, and that would change the playing field a lot, that is correct. But, no matter what - your third party candidate is not gonna win. Mark it down.

[Milo_Bloom]

62. I gave you the links, the numbers and the math. They are reality.

[saracat]

45. Who is this "we" you refer too? Please speak only for yourself.

This thinking is close to delusional.Obama ,Edwards and even Clinton have raised thousands of dollars from "small " donors who will vote in the general.ALL the polling shows that almost ALL of our candidates beat the repugs.I may have my own opinion on who is most electable but this is silly.And it is ridiculous to insist that Gore is running.Kerry has also said it is hard to shut the door completely on a run, yet we know he isn't going to jump in.Perhaps you think Kerry is jumping in the race too?:eyes: :crazy: :tinfoilhat:

[Milo_Bloom]

63. We includes many people I work with.

The only crazy I see right now, are the people who have convinced themselves that the democratic candidates are more popular than that are and those who can't figure out that Gore is running.

Try actually READING the book, LISTING to what is said and THINKING. It really helps.

Or you can just telling yourself the things you want to believe, instead of what the facts say.:crazy:

[dalaigh lllama]

67. I sure like the way you lined all that out

After I read "The Assault on Reason" I thought it was even more likely that he was going to run. The man loves this country too much not to.

[sellitman]

72. His book is clear

He hates what politics has become and the whole process. He is happy & successful in private life and has a job. That job is much more important than the one you and I would like him in. How much clearer could he make it?

As much as you would like ...he ain't running.

[Milo_Bloom]

74. The book is about changing...

The way politics is done and the way people look at it.

If you can't figure out that he is following the book like I guide and showing how one can run for office w/o being embroiled in it, I don't know what to tell you.

How much clearer can it be?

As you much as you don't want it to be... he's running!

[sellitman]

75. I guess time will tell.

I am not holding my breath.

I'd love for you to message me with a huge "I told you so"

It would be crow I would eat with pleasure.

Meanwhile...back to reality.

[Milo_Bloom]

81. The reality is...

That without him or Clark or someone who isn't seen as "establishment", it is highly unlikely that a traditional democrat will be in office in January 2009. When only 61% of the democrats are satisfied with the choices, something is dreadfully wrong.

People here repeating, "our candidates are fine... we don't need anyone else... we should all love this group" doesn't change the reality, which is that there is wide disatisfaction with the candidates on both sides of the aisle. (much moreso on the gop side).

When 58% of the population believes there should be a 3rd party and only 33% think the current parties are representing America, there is a problem. (http://www.pollingreport.com/institut2.htm)

Al Gore is quite smart and has managed to repackage himself as an outsider who doesn't want to be a part of "washington politics".

Just THINK about it.

[sellitman]

82. Looking at your polling page makes me think

The Repukes are going down HARD in 2008.

Polls are like assholes though...everyone has one of their own.

[Milo_Bloom]

89. The GOP is meaningless in 08

The race is between the DEMS and probably the "unity" party (or whatever one forms).

Depending upon what candidate the dems choose and the third party chooses will tell the tale.

Establishment vs "outsider", the outsider will win.

The only chance the GOP would have is someone like Hagel, but he doesn't seem to interested in sticking with his own party right now... I think he is more likely to go Unity... with Gore, you have a field that will likely look like.

Gore V GOP SHILL v Hagel, which is Gore v Hagel, in which Gore would win.

No Gore, and you likely have DEM ESTABLISHMENT v GOP SHILL v Bloomberg, in which Bloomberg will win.

None of the current GOP candidates stand a chance.

[Blue Belle]

66. It's a good field... not a great one.

I'll support the one who doesn't confuse leadership decisions with campaign strategy.

[AtomicKitten]

16. my daughter says he is running

so there

[draft_mario_cuomo]

17. What would Gore's daughter know about whether Gore is running?

:sarcasm:

[Blue Belle]

19. Regardless of whether Gore is running...

What is the deal with so many on this board demanding that we fall in line behind one particular candidate right now? What ever happened to running for office in '08 in '08? Why do we have to declare a candidate now? The reason why these campaigns start earlier and earlier and spend more and more money, and do more and more fund raising is because WE ALLOW THEM TO. We are partially to blame. By sending your support and campaign contributions now, people are collectively saying "we don't care that you're shirking your duties of your current job to spend the next year having fund raisers and pandering to the base - go ahead, symbolic votes and pandering actions doesn't matter to us anyway". If Gore does decide to run, I'm of the opinion that he will get more support because he bucked the current "campaign the voters to death" strategy and spent the past year actually doing something to further the safety of our planet. You'll forgive us if some of us would rather support a man of action than a candidate of empty rhetoric.

[KoKo]

22. Well Said! n/t

[Kokonoe]

24. What a nice post.

Al Gore is just acting like what a DEMOCRAT would naturally do under the vision of normal circumstance. He can see the way the world should be, but he's not going to play smoothed over repug-lite on steroids to show us the way. The grass is green today, but those aspens look drought stricken.

[Blue Belle]

44. Yes... exactly. Like a real Democrat.

I'm getting tired of the republican friendly media and K-street backed political machines telling me who I can and can't want for President, and when I have to decide who to vote for. Gore isn't tilting to windmills or following a gilded path to the party nomination - he's gaining respect by passionately fighting for the life of our planet, and by doing so embodying everything that we need in a Presidential leader. Regardless of whether Gore runs, he is shining well above the "lukewarm, business as usual, straddle the fence" candidates in the field.

[RestoreGore]

26. Oh, but not as a "candidate" you don't give a damn for his work

Is that what you're saying?

[Blue Belle]

37. Geeze... Project much?

When did I ever say that I didn't give a damn for the work Al gore is doing? How did you ever get that from what I posted?

[RestoreGore]

47. When did you ever say you did?

[Blue Belle]

54. Many places...

in words and in action. Al Gore has inspired me to get involved. I've served on the steering committee to bring the "Focus the Nation" organization to my college campus, and I worked very hard at bringing and promoting not only Al Gore's "Inconvenient Truth" to our school (in the form of a week long film festival), but also to bring our Secretary of State Bill Bradbury to campus and perform the slide show as well. I'm working very hard to promote a sustainability program at our school, and I'm promoting recycling programs and clean energy alternatives at school and at work. Gore's film has spurred me to study the effects that global warming will have on my state and community, and I've made several school presentations about it. Al Gore has inspired me in his books, speeches and work. I believe he has great vision for our country and I'm getting damned tired of you and others accusing people who are "Pro Gore for President" of being uncaring and undermining of his global warming cause. Just because I don't drink your particular brand of kool-aide doesn't mean I don't work hard to see his vision - whether its a presidential campaign or a continuation of his current cause - to come to fruition. Whatever Gore decides to do I will support. The question remains... will you?

[madmunchie]

87. Beats me - your post was EXACTLY what I've been thinking for MONTHS

now, but haven't been able to communicate so fully and eloquently.

THAT response makes no sense and is really out in Left field just trying to rain on your parade.

[Blue Belle]

90. After awhile, you'll notice that "raining" part of the pattern....

As soon as someone makes a pro-Gore for President remark, all of a sudden this person is guilty of undermining Gore's work. It's on the same plain of logical conclusions as invading Iraq in retribution for 9/11 was.

[jenmarie]

35. Agree!!

:applause:

[Pastiche423]

53. Excellent post!

Especially about the other candidates running far too soon. I'm sick of the campaigns already.

[Blue Belle]

56. I am too... it's turning into a sideshow.

I think campaign fatigue will lead to a lower voter turnout - fat lot of good all these huge campaign budgets will do when no one turns up at the polls.

[KoKo]

23. Excellent Response from Kristin who ran Gore's 2000 Campaign

She knows how to BUILD THE ANTICIPATION to get her DAD to RUN! :applause:

[sellitman]

30. The Freeper responses on that site are incredible.

Are they really that dense?

Wow...just wow.

[JI7]

36. this is why i say we need to push him to run

there is no secret plan about how he will enter at some date.

we need to continue pushing him to get into it. not just him but his kids and any other family and friends who might have influence.

Gore hates politics but he likes governing and legislating. he doesn't like the campaign and the ugliness of it. if we can convince him we would stick by him maybe he might run.

[calteacherguy]

49. Why? He probably wouldn't win the nomination. Why do you have this unhealthy fantasy? Move on..nt

[JI7]

69. don't condescend to me like that

i don't have any fantasies about this nor do i think he will win for sure. i might not even back him if he does run. it might be between him and Obama.

but i think he would add to the debate just as Wes Clark would. and maybe they might end up winning if they can show they would make a better president.

[calteacherguy]

71. Please make use of capitalization rules. Your ideas deserve a quality presentation. nt

[calteacherguy]

48. I hope this ends all the Gore fantasizing going on around here for good. nt

[Blue Belle]

57. Riight... better to fantasize about Hillary, Edwards, or Obama...

isn't it just speculation at this point anyway?

[Guaranteed]

91. It won't. He's the only one that's worth a damn.

You're gonna have an awfully hard time killing all that hope.

[mistertrickster]

58. Gore should get in just to get payback for what Clinton did to him . . . and our party.

When one is President of the United States and the opposition is fanatically pursuing one's downfall: Whitewatergate, Travelgate, Special Prosecutors sending your friends to jail, the Paula Jones lawsuit, Gennifer Flowers, etc. etc, that's probably NOT A GOOD TIME to carry on an extra-martial affair.

I'm just saying . . . it was pretty freaking dumb, wasn't it.

And incredibly selfish.

[derby378]

68. All I know is, if Gore winds up not running...

...I think my vote is going to Bill Richardson. I've been waiting patiently, but it's go time now, so Gore himself needs to make a final declaration one way or another.

[BeyondGeography]

73. I believe her

[GreenPartyVoter]

76. What about '12?

[SaveElmer]

79. The Democrat elected next year...

Will be running for reelection in 2012

[MiserableFailure]

83. Not if Hillary is the nominee

We'll have to field a candidate in 2012.

[SaveElmer]

84. Wrong...nt

[MiserableFailure]

85. Hillary is uniquely awesome

The only candidate despised by both very conservative and very liberal people. It's amazing the anomisity she gets from both ends of the political spectrum, and believe me it's well deserved. Two-faced doesn't begin to describe her. Four-faced is more like it.

[rosesaylavee]

92. Let's stick to policy, shall we?

Hillary bashing is getting a bit dull. She's not my candidate but that last remark was unnecessary and did nothing to further discussion.

[MiserableFailure]

93. it was within du rules

i won't apologize for it

[rosesaylavee]

94. Ok. Waste as much time

as you wish then.

[SaveElmer]

96. Evidence?

With links and citation please...

If you would like evidence showing the opposite I would be glad to provide it...