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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 05:56 PM
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Conyers: 3 More Congress Members and I'll Impeach
By David Swanson



House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers has said that if three more Congress Members get behind impeachment he will start the impeachment proceedings.

I was a guest today on Bree Walker's radio show. She's the progressive radio host from San Diego who purchased Cindy Sheehan's land from her in Crawford, Texas.

Bree attended an event on Friday in San Diego at which Congressman Conyers spoke about impeachment. Her report was extremely interesting. I had already heard reports that Conyers had said: "What are we waiting for? Let's take these two guys out!" But, of course, what we're waiting for is John Conyers. Is he ready to act? It was hard to tell from that comment. In January, Conyers spoke at a huge rally on the National Mall and declared "We can fire them!" but later explained that what he meant was that we could wait for two years and Bush and Cheney's terms would end. Was this week's remark just more empty rhetoric?

It appears to be more than that. Bree Walker told me, on the air, that Conyers said that all he needs is three more Congress Members backing impeachment, and he'll move on it, even without Pelosi. I asked whether that meant specifically moving from 14 cosponsors of H Res 333 to 17, or adding 3 to the larger number of Congress Members who have spoken favorably of impeachment but not all signed onto bills. Bree said she didn't know and that Conyers had declined to take any questions.

Either way, this target of three more members seems perfectly doable. It's safe to assume, I think, that we're talking about impeaching Cheney first. But, even if Conyers is talking about Bush, the target is perfectly achievable.

First, there are Congress Members like Jesse Jackson Jr. who have spoken out for impeachment but not signed onto H Res 333. They should be urged to act now! Second, there are dozens of members who signed onto H Res 635 a year and a half ago, Conyers' bill for an investigation into grounds for impeachment, who have not signed onto H Res 333 yet. Third, one of the excuses citizens often hear from lots of Congress Members for not signing onto articles of impeachment is that not enough of their colleagues have signed on and therefore "we don't have the votes." Well that just changed. Now three more votes is all that's needed to get this machine rolling. Fourth, many of the 14 Congress Members backing H Res 333 have used similar excuses to justify refraining from lobbying their colleagues to join them. That can now end. Our 14 leaders can do more than just put down their names.

Now, if Conyers begins impeachment proceedings in the House Judiciary Committee, we should all be clear on what that will mean. If it is serious, it will not mean sending any subpoenas or contempt citations to the emperors' court. Bush and Cheney have already repeatedly refused to comply with subpoenas.

President Richard Nixon did the same, of course, and his refusal to comply with subpoenas constituted the offense cited in one of the three Articles of Impeachment approved by the House Judiciary Committee on July 27, 1974 as warranting "impeachment and trial, and removal from office." But Bush and Cheney have gone further, ordering former staffers not to comply with subpoenas, and announcing that the Justice Department will not enforce any contempt of Congress proceedings.

What the impeachment of Cheney or Bush will be is very, very fast. It will not disrupt or distract from the important business of passing nonbinding resolutions and holding all-night gripe sessions over bills destined to be vetoed. Impeachment in the case of Dick Cheney need not take the three months it did for Nixon or the two months it did for President Bill Clinton. In fact, it could take a day. Here's why:

Bush and Cheney's lies about Iraqi ties to al Qaeda are on videotape and in writing, and Bush and Cheney continue to make them to this day. There was no al Qaeda in Iraq until the invasion.

Their claims about Iraqi weapons have been shown in every detail to have been, not mistakes, but lies.

Their threats to Iran are on videotape.

Bush being warned about Katrina and claiming he was not are on videotape.

Bush lying about illegal spying and later confessing to it are on videotape. A federal court has ruled that spying to be a felony.

The Supreme Court has ruled Bush and Cheney's system of detentions unconstitutional.

Torture, openly advocated for by Bush and Cheney and their staffs, is documented by victims, witnesses, and public photographs. Torture was always illegal and has been repeatedly recriminalized under Bush and Cheney. Bush has reversed laws with signing statements.

Those statements are posted on the White House website, and a GAO report found that with 30 percent of Bush's signing statements in which he announces his right to break laws, he has in fact proceeded to break those laws.

For these and many other offenses, no investigation is needed because no better evidence is even conceivable. This impeachment will be swift. And it will require only a simple majority. We already know that the Democrats can vote as a block if they want to, and that a few brave Republicans might join them.

Whether the Senate will then convict Cheney will depend on how much pressure citizens apply and how much information the House manages to force onto television sets. The latter could be surprisingly large and substantive, since the conflict of an impeachment is certain to generate incredible ratings.

But even an acquittal would identify the Senators to be removed from office by voters in 2008. And Cheney (or Bush) would still have been 100% impeached. Al Gore didn't run for president pretending he'd never met Bill Clinton and pick Senator Joe Lieberman as a running mate because the Senate convicted Clinton (it acquitted).

The timing of Conyers' remark may be related to the steps the White House has recently taken to assert "unitary executive" dictatorial power. Bush has commuted the sentence of a subordinate who obstructed an investigation into matters involving Bush and Cheney. And, as mentioned above, neither subpoenas nor contempt citations will go anywhere. Impeachment is no longer merely the appropriate step that it has been for the past six years. It is now the only tool left to the Congress for use in asserting its very existence as a functioning body of government.

But the timing is also quite helpful to the grassroots movement for impeachment, and rather symbolic. Five years ago this Monday, the meeting was held at #10 Downing Street that produced the Downing Street Minutes. Over two years ago, then Ranking Member Conyers held a hearing in the basement of the Capitol, the only space the Republican leadership would allow him. At that hearing, several Democratic Congress Members for the first time began talking about impeachment. The witnesses at the hearing were Ambassador Joseph Wilson, attorney John Bonifaz, former CIA analyst Ray McGovern, and a then unknown gold star mother named Cindy Sheehan. They discussed the evidence of the Downing Street documents, which added significantly to the growing body of evidence that Bush and Cheney misled the Congress about the case for war.

This Monday, Sheehan and McGovern and a great many leaders of the movements for peace and impeachment will lead a march at 10 a.m. at Arlington National Cemetery. We will march to Congressman Conyers office and ask to talk with him about impeachment. We will refuse to leave without either a commitment to begin at once the impeachment of Cheney or Bush or both, or our arms in handcuffs. The same day, groups in several states around the country will be sitting in and risking arrest for impeachment in the district offices of their congress members.

Not everyone will be able to take part. But everyone can take two minutes on Monday and do two things: phone Chairman Conyers at 202-225-5126 and ask him to start the impeachment of dick Cheney; and phone your own Congress Member at 202-224-3121 and ask them to immediately call Conyers' office to express their support for impeachment. Your Congress Member might just be one of the three needed, not just to keep us out of jail but to keep this nation from devolving into dictatorship.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:01 PM
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1. Keep this kicked
this is awesome news
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:55 AM
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105. A citizens impeachment and conviction and get an end to the Iraq war as a bonus.
Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 11:57 AM by liberaldemocrat7
A citizens impeachment and conviction and get an end to the Iraq war as a bonus.

Send this letter to the Republican Party today!

Copy and paste the letter below and email it directly to info@gop.com the Republican Party and get many others to send this letter. Thank you.


Hello

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remain anonymous then drop by the chat room and merely type the word done.

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:01 PM
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2. Soooo Close
:bounce:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:02 PM
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3. Hope this is for real. Rec #5.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:03 PM
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4. Is there a list somewhere of who is and/or is not signed on at the moment?
If you have a link to that list, could you post it here?

Thanks!

TC

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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. it appears the OP is well sourced, see the links provided.....
I followed those links and it may be they answer your question.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:07 PM
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5. Maybe I'm a bit dim
But why does it specifically have to be 17? :shrug:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:08 PM
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6. Go For It, John Conyers!
You'll never march alone on this.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:09 PM
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8. Only three more??
I thought Conyers would be like some DUers and require 2/3 in both houses.

Silly me.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:15 PM
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9. who's on the fence? who do we need to call?
i love calling congress reps and bitching. whose asses do we need to light some fires under?
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:30 PM
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72. Look at the link in the first post: Reps who already signed HR 635,
would be prime candidates.

H.RES.635
Title: Creating a select committee to investigate the Administration's intent to go to war before congressional authorization, manipulation of pre-war intelligence, encouraging and countenancing torture, retaliating against critics, and to make recommendations regarding grounds for possible impeachment.
Sponsor: Rep Conyers, John, Jr. (introduced 12/18/2005) Cosponsors (38)

The list of signees is here:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HE00635:@@@P

One of them is my Representaive, Nydia Velazquez. SHE IS GREAT. I love her!!!! She hasn't signed the new resolution though! I gotta call her office again!

Why limit ourselves to just three more, lets get another dozen!
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:15 PM
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10. I know a NJ Congresscritter whose getting a phone call first thing Monday
morning, and a fax for good measure. This is great news.

Kickedy Kick Kick
:kick:
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:20 PM
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13. Donald Payne is mine, who's your's ? I think the NJ DEM caucus should all be told what we hired them
to do......
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:56 PM
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27. Bill Pascrell. I intend to be very persuasive.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:50 PM
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42. Bill's a good DEM, although a bit late to the Get out of Iraq caucus
Bill needs to be told, as his compass is not as good as Pallone, Rothman, Holt, Payne. Or Maxine Waters & John Conyers.

You might remind Bill that 123 DEM voted against the authorization to use force in Iraq, and he was NOT one of them. "I intend to be very persuasive." Good, Bill needs that.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #27
53. I sent Bill a hard copy letter and several emails
strongly suggesting impeachment and turning them (the entire Administration) over to The Hague for war crimes trials.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:16 PM
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11. Welcome to DU David. A very well sourced post, albeit on one of my favorite topics....
The "I" word is being spoken more frequently in America, not just on blogs, but on TV. and you know waht they say, if it wasnt on TV, it didnt happen. Polls show increased support for impeachment and removal, more and more members of Congress are talking about it. I have to say that there is an element of momentum that indicates it could happen this year and that it will not be a drawn out process. I do think if it happens it will be in 2007, certainly not 2008. I am somewhat more certain that Cheney will be the victim, rather than Bush & Cheney, we shall see.

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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 08:58 PM
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52. The I word to which you refer:
Would that be Inject?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 09:11 PM
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56. ah, yeah sure, inject the word impeachment into every conversation you can....
Sup Wiz, how are you doing.... ?

What do you think of a deal that ends up with Lugar in the White House
IMHO is an important step on the road to getting this done in 2007.

I think that Lugar would be acceptable to most of the players in Congress.

I favor the GOP picking the next President

I not only favor the GOP picking Bush's replacement, I think its one of the pieces that are essential to moving forward on impeachment and removal, and without it, its a deal breaker.

Carl Albert was Speaker in 1974, he did not end up as President...........

Ya know what I mean......
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 07:17 AM
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94. To borrow a term popularized by Reagan
"Well"
The Republicans should choose Bush's interim replacement. Maybe they'll pick someone honest like Tom DeLay or Duke Cunningham, or Mark Foley, or Scooter Libby, or Ted Hitler, or............
The real problem is that the American people will never again pick political leaders if the elections are privatized by proprietary source code. The method for counting votes is in the hands of private companies dedicated to the Republican Party with no way to certify an honest vote count.
There is no logical reason for keeping the vote counting method a secret. If our votes can't be counted in the light of day, and open to the citizens, then the United States is in a class with Stalin's Soviet Union. Of course I'm off topic, but the Sunday morning coffee is kicking in.
Anyway, I favor Ted Hitler.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:39 AM
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82. Kucinich knows Cheney has to go first since he's the real foreign policy "decider"
Besides, Cheney is the most impeachable. No one can stand him and certainly no one has any sympathy for him. He's also the biggest liar with the most to hide. Be advised though, he will tell Conyers to go f*^k himself and since the Justice department serves at the pleasure of the President, I wonder who will arrest Cheney or force him to comply.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:17 PM
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12. Thank you David.
I will be calling my Rep Rosa LeLauro on Monday morning. I have called before and written often but we have to keep the pressure up especially now.
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jenmarie Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:21 PM
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14. I suggested on a thread last night
sending Conyers some LOVE. I did and I hope everyone who can spare a few bucks will do so, also.

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/12769

I don't have a lot of $$ and only sent $15. but if everyone sent a little it would send a clear message!
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #14
70. I just kicked in 20 bucks. I considered it "putting my money where my mouth is" (NT)
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 04:12 AM
Response to Reply #14
88. Great idea! Letters from Granma were always great but a five-buck or ten-buck bill was sure sweet!
I was disappointed that I couldn't send a message along with my puny donation of "luv." Hopefully he'll get the message anyway. :bounce: :woohoo: :patriot: :applause: :kick:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:27 PM
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15. Thanks David, for making this VERY CLEAR! What we need to do about it, also.
Edited on Sat Jul-21-07 06:28 PM by KoKo01
I have already urged my House Rep to Impeach Cheney...so I will follow that up on Monday with another call reminding him how much I gave.

We've gotta get the Gang of 14 onboard. That means Landrieu and the Nelsons (Ben & Bill), Salazar and those others who tend to drift towards the Repugs when any crucial Dem issue comes up. Those who have those Reps...know who they are...so APPLY THE PRESSURE ONCE AGAIN! The BLUE DOG DEMS are the ones that need the Hammer Lock Pressure!
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Heath Hatcher Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:46 PM
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23. Seriously am I dreaming
Did Conyers says all he needs is 3 more Dems and he'll start impeaching. ALL RIGHT!! this is great and getting three more to come onboard is doable too. there's 14 Democrats who co-sponsored Kucinich's impeachment bill and there's 72 Democrats in the House Progressive Caucus, these are the Dems who would be more likely to jump on to this so this can happen.

BTW since there's no one who posted the Dems who Sponsored H.R 333 here they are

Current Co-Sponsors
Including Rep. Kucinich, the resolution has fourteen co-sponsors (in alphabetical order):

Name of Rep State/District Date Signed Notes
Yvette Clarke New York/11 06/06/2007
William Lacy Clay, Jr. Missouri/1 05/01/2007
Keith Ellison Minnesota/5 06/28/2007 member of House Judiciary Committee
member of the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties

Sam Farr California/17 07/12/2007
Bob Filner California/51 07/12/2007
Hank Johnson Georgia/4 06/28/2007 member of House Judiciary Committee
Dennis Kucinich Ohio/10 04/24/2007 author of resolution
Barbara Lee California/9 06/07/2007
Jim McDermott Washington/7 07/10/2007
James Moran Virginia/8 07/10/2007
Jan Schakowsky Illinois/9 05/01/2007
Maxine Waters California/35 06/12/2007 member of House Judiciary Committee
Lynn Woolsey California/6 06/07/2007
Albert Wynn Maryland/4 05/10/2007

And here are the members of the Congressional Progressive caucus

Current members
Neil Abercrombie (Hawaii)
Tammy Baldwin (Wisconsin)
Xavier Becerra (California)
Madeleine Bordallo (Guam)
Bob Brady (Pennsylvania)
Corrine Brown (Florida)
Mike Capuano (Massachusetts)
Julia Carson (Indiana)
Donna Christian-Christensen (Virgin Islands)
Yvette Clarke (New York)
William Lacy Clay, Jr. (Missouri)
Emanuel Cleaver (Missouri)
Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
John Conyers (Michigan) - chairman, House Judiciary Committee
Elijah Cummings (Maryland)
Danny Davis (Illinois)
Peter DeFazio (Oregon)
Rosa DeLauro (Connecticut)
Keith Ellison (Minnesota)
Eni Faleomavaega (American Samoa)
Sam Farr (California)
Chaka Fattah (Pennsylvania)
Bob Filner (California) - chairman, House Veterans Affairs Committee
Barney Frank (Massachusetts) - chairman, House Financial Services Committee
Raul Grijalva (Arizona)
Luis Gutierrez (Illinois)
John Hall (New York)
Phil Hare (Illinois)
Maurice Hinchey (New York)
Mazie Hirono (Hawaii)
Jesse Jackson, Jr. (Illinois)
Sheila Jackson-Lee (Texas)
Eddie Bernice Johnson (Texas)
Hank Johnson (Georgia)
Stephanie Tubbs Jones (Ohio) - chairwoman, House Ethics Committee
Marcy Kaptur (Ohio)
Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (Michigan)
Dennis Kucinich (Ohio) - candidate for President of the United States
Tom Lantos (California) - chairman, House Foreign Affairs Committee
Barbara Lee (California) - Co-Chair
John Lewis (Georgia)
Dave Loebsack (Iowa)
Carolyn Maloney (New York)
Ed Markey (Massachusetts)
Jim McDermott (Washington)
Jim McGovern (Massachusetts)
George Miller (California) - chairman, House Education and Labor Committee
Gwen Moore (Wisconsin)
Jerry Nadler (New York)
Eleanor Holmes Norton (District of Columbia)
John Olver (Massachusetts)
Ed Pastor (Arizona)
Donald M. Payne (New Jersey)
Charles Rangel (New York) - chairman, House Ways and Means Committee
Bobby Rush (Illinois)
Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
Jose Serrano (New York)
Louise Slaughter (New York)
Hilda Solis (California)
Pete Stark (California)
Bennie Thompson (Mississippi) - chairman, House Homeland Security Committee
John Tierney (Massachusetts)
Tom Udall (New Mexico)
Nydia Velazquez (New York) - chairwoman, House Small Business Committee
Maxine Waters (California)
Diane Watson (California)
Mel Watt (North Carolina)
Henry Waxman (California) - chairman, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee
Peter Welch (Vermont)
Lynn Woolsey (California) - Co-Chair

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. Heath Hatcher...THANKS FOR THE LIST...No DU'er has an Excuse Not to Call with the Rep and #'s here:
that you've given!
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:52 PM
Response to Reply #23
77. Thank god for McDermott.....
because Cantrell, Murray and Baird are sure missing...
but that's ok...Murray responded to me saying she felt we should give the pres...the right to use all the means he needs to get information out of another person...I still haven't responded to her note...I was so pissed off..
wb
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 12:32 PM
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109. I'm with you
The responses I get from Murray, Cantwell and Smith have to sit for awhile before I can reply.

:mad:
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 08:24 AM
Response to Reply #23
97. do you think conyers is unaware of this list?
do you think these members are unaware of kucinich's bill? or unaware of bush,inc crimes? it is interesting that there is no comment on what is currently preventing their support. anyone who is "progressive" shouldn't need to have their arm twisted on this. actually, anyone with an iota of demcratic spirit shouldn't need it.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:32 PM
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16. Sweet - Mr. Waxman's office will be hearing from me (again) Monday;
But I'm with Greeby (see post #5): Why 17 (As opposed, say, to 16 or 18 or...)?
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Ben Masel Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:33 PM
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17. Does he have the authority?
Normally, Committees don't get bills until they're referred.
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Ben Masel Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 09:11 PM
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57. Answering my own question
Pelosi referred H. Res. 333, the Cheney impeachment resolution, on May 4th.

A Bush Impeachment would have to start with a seperate Resolution, followed by a referral by the Speaker.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:34 PM
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18. Music to my ears - thank you! nt
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:35 PM
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19. Thank you for the wonderful . . .
Post. I'll write my Congress person again, who unfortunately is carpet bagger Heather Wilson, who along with Pete Domenici, also from my state, are guilty in their own right for trying to put pressure on David Iglesias, and then had him fired. . . so you can see it has been an up road battle to get the attention of this woman. She has sent me back replies that there is no evidence that calls for impeachment. I send her back a list along with which part of the Constitution each wrong doing is covered by. Then I suspect my letters are immediately shuffled in to the shredder. I also write to Tom Udall saying that since my own representative won't listen to me, maybe he'll represent my concerns as well as those of his constituents.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:39 PM
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20. Well as usual it's up to the blue staters
Not going to get any help down here from Arizona. We elected once again a couple of flat earther jag-offs who care more about implementing "Intelligent Science" than the current direction of our nation.

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #20
40. Call your regressive house congress critter anyway. Make them nervious.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:15 PM
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62. The only thing that would make them nervous is if the Rapture hits the state
And believe me I am counting the half seconds....
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:40 PM
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21. K&R and writing another letter!!!!!!!!!! n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:42 PM
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22. When Harry Reid was asked why he wouldn't support impeachment,
Edited on Sat Jul-21-07 06:44 PM by jenmito
he said, "Two words: Dick Cheney." Of course that's BS because it would most likely be impeachment of Cheney FIRST.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:14 PM
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33. Impeach Cheney First
Sorry, but I simply had to repeat your most salient line so that more would see it.

:yourock:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:13 PM
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61. No problemo!
Thanks for "puttin' it out there"! :hi:
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:45 AM
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83. Cheney says, "Go F*^k yourself" to Conyers. Who's gonna arrest him?
The Justice department serves at the pleasure of the president so who is gonna' arrest Cheney or force him to comply...The Capitol police? Everyone hates Cheney and have no sympathy for him but still, I hope Conyers finds a way, or a person to force Cheney to comply with an impeachment decision.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:00 AM
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102. Of course
Why try a dictator?

Because if you do not than you have given them tacit approval for everything they do. You legitimize their power with cowardice.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 12:11 PM
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106. I think someone needs to take him hunting...
I'm just sayin'... :D
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 08:17 PM
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47. Reid is full of shit! H Res 333 is for the impeachment of Cheney
It is languishing in Conyers' committee.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:49 PM
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24. Kicked and Recommended.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:55 PM
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26. This is fantastic news!!!
It made my day. :)

Recommended.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:57 PM
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28. David, have I told you lately that I love you?
Best news in weeks!!!

:yourock:
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Heath Hatcher Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:06 PM
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30. But I got to ask one thing
Is this offical? did Conyers actually say this or is this some rumor condracted by David Swanson to give Democratic bloggers and impeachment activists false hope? will one day I can go to Conyers house wsebsite or the party's website with a press release stateing "House Judicary Chairman Conyers: Three more Democrats and i'm moving for impeachment" will I see this or is all this shit just scuttlebutt? And I don't understand how Conyers can move for impeachment onto the House floor even with the Speaker's approval, I thought legislation can't be moved onto the House floor without premission by the Speaker or the majority leader and this is coming from a Speaker who has said impeachment is off the table.

Of course this is a whole new ball game since John fucking Conyers, the lion of the House, a progressive champion, a favorite among Democrats like the ones at DU the man most importantly for drawing up the impeachment papers for President Nixon has basically come on board with this and now the magic number is three. Personally with Conyers persueing this I think Pelosi will change her mind on this since this is coming from the House Judicary Chairman, a well respected member of Congress not to mention a close ally in Congress
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:16 PM
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34. I don't think David would bullshit about this
Besides, if you read it, it says this was all on the air, on Bree Walker's show. And I don't think Bree would bullshit either. I have met both David and Bree and find them to be honorable people. And NO ONE has worked harder at impeachment than David Swanson. No one.
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 06:59 PM
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29. kr and bookmarking. n/t
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:06 PM
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31. it doesn't seem real, but i sure hope it is. k&r. nt
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:13 PM
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32. Heath Shuler is my Congressman
Even though he's a "Blue Dog" caucus member, he's going to get an earful from me. Bush's misdeeds need to be brought into the light of day. Whether or not we are successful in removing him from office, his crimes against the Constitution must be answered.
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That Is Quite Enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:18 PM
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35. Emailed my Rep (Herseth Sandlin) and told her to support Conyers
Edited on Sat Jul-21-07 07:20 PM by Snicker-snack
She's a Democrat, and a pretty good Representative.

I see no reason why she couldn't or wouldn't get on board, unless she was being bribed or intimidated.

Or didn't want to upset her base back in South Dakota, which has a large number of Bush lovers.

Thought of another reason: She's one of the more Conservative Democrats, and therefore actually supports Bush. Which would make me sick. But is probably true. Yeah.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:11 PM
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67. I love how you went all the way around the barn on your reasoning!
Welcome to DU!
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Jackilope Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 02:03 AM
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85. Snicker-snack -- another SDakotan!
Hi Snicker-snack,
I'm from SD as well, and had e-mailed Herseth-Sandlin
regarding her last vote enabling Bush with Iraq, which I was
most disappointed in.  I just don't know if we could count on
her for a vote towards impeachment and don't hold out too high
a hopes.  I'd absolutely love it if she would.  I'll put in a
phone call to her office if Conyer's move is indeed true. 







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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:19 PM
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36. Good to hear it!
:kick:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:19 PM
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37. Kicking to keep this at the top
Where it belongs, Goddamn it!!!!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:28 PM
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38. Kicked and recommended, as if it needs it... yeehaw, keep it
a goin'... and thanks for the update on the democratic process that this country is said to be so proud of upholding.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:34 PM
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39. Emailed Rep. Moore
and will go over to his office Monday.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:36 PM
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41. Maybe we can blackmail 3 of 'em.
:evilgrin:

Just kidding, but I'll be haunting Nadler like a fucking house come Monday.

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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:51 PM
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43. Oh please... pleeeaaassseee.....
*crossed fingers, toes & anything thing else that will cross*

Oh yah, I'll be making some phone calls too :evilgrin:

but what else is new? :D
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:52 PM
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44. This is the best news in a long time...my Rep., Sam Farr is on co-sponsoring
H.Res 333, after much pestering from me and many other constituents.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 08:08 PM
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45. Who are the most likely to sign on? Can someone post names and contact info?
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Heath Hatcher Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 08:12 PM
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46. See post 23
I posted names of Democrats who could be presuaded to jump on as co-sponsors of HR.333, contacts numbers though I did not provide.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 08:24 PM
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48. Great news!
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BrainGlutton Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 08:29 PM
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49. ??? But, Jackson IS a sponsor of H.R. 333!
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 08:29 PM
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50. Get on the phones, y'all. I just called the two Democratic reps from
Kentucky and asked them to sign on. I also asked for inherent contempt and paper ballots and no oil benchmark, but I stressed John Conyers' statement.
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Heath Hatcher Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 08:32 PM
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51. Good for you
I think John Yarmuth can be persuaded to jump on as a sponsor but I'm skeptical about Ben Chandler
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 09:06 PM
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54. K & R - My rep is Joe Baca, probably something of a Blue Dog,
but I'll try to light a fire under him Monday anyway.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 09:09 PM
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55. This is a third hand account
I'm very skeptical. David Swanson spread one untrue story about Conyers before.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 09:37 PM
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59. agreed -- seems dubious
I find this very dubious sounding.

At minimum, I believe Conyers won't move unless several additional members of the House Judiciary Committee sign on. Right now only 3 committee members are co-sponsors of the cheney impeachment resolution (that's out of 40 total, 23 Democrats/17 repubs).

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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 09:35 PM
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58. Anyone want to offer a gift to the first team that gets their Congressperson
to join in?
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:10 PM
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60. K&R!!
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That Is Quite Enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:19 PM
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63. I'm sure others have done this, too...
But, amidst the discussion of this claim's legitimacy, I sent an email to Bree questioning whether she's heard Conyers mention anything like this. Time to see if she can confirm or deny it.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:54 PM
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64. Maxine Waters, Lynn Woolsey, Barbara Lee! Step up to the plate!
It would be so cool!

Maxine Waters
2344 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: (202) 225-2201
Fax: (202) 225-7854

Lynn Woolsey
2263 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
(202) 225-5161
Fax: (202) 225-5163

Barbara Lee
2444 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
(202) 225-2661
Fax: (202) 225-9817




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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:12 PM
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68. Uh, they're already co-signers of HR333 (n/t)
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 09:13 AM
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100. I wonder if they can peel off HR333 and go with Conyers on this...
It seems like there are plenty of co-sponsors of HR333...maybe three can go with Conyers and really start this puppy up.

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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:54 PM
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65. Unfortunately for me...
my congressman is knuckledragging crazyman Tom Cole of Oklahoma, so my calling him won't do a damn bit of good. But, I bet I could email Congressman Boren (D)--he has more of a clue.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:11 PM
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66. Probably 3 more in the Judiciary Committee. They have to report it out to the House.
There is little point in starting the process w/o the prospect of votes to get it out of committee. The investigations are ongoing as is.

However, an accusation of criminal conduct will override executive privilege, and that may be Bush's unforeseen consequence to all the stonewalling and claims of executive privilege, a move to impeach with a criminal accusation to lay aside the claim.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:20 PM
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69. Start it Monday morning. Impeachment is a grand jury indictment. The trial is in the Senate.
If Bush wants a Constitutional Crisis, then settle it. Newsflash: Congress trumps the President due to two powers: Impeachment and removal from office as well as the Power of the Purse.

There is a reason for that, it is called keeping the supreme power in the hands of the men and women up for election every two years.

When one reads beyond the preamble of the Declaration of Independence, it is right there what the perceived faults of George Welf were and why he deserved removal. Looking back, it seems quite tame facing what we do nowadays. . .

Both Georges were rather pathetic creatures in over their head who should have left the governing to the Parliament/Cognress and stayed on their farms and ranches. . .

Of course, George III was a family man and a gentleman.
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DAMANgoldberg Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:26 PM
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71. John Spratt SC-5 is my congressman...
He is an old-line Southern democrat (not particularly Liberal). I didn't write a "form" letter or a long-winded prose. I just simply asked for Impeachment of B & C in order to save our constitution. Will also contact my former congressman Mel Watt (NC-12) and for S_i_s & G_g_l_s, Sue Myrick (NC-9) and Robin Hayes (NC-8), both Repugs.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 07:08 AM
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93. Calling Mel Watt is not a bad idea, maybe you can take that request
to the South Carolina forum and I'll post it in North Carolina and we'll see if we can get him on board. I was most impressed with his comments during Harriet Meiers 'no show' before the Judiciary Committee last week.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:38 PM
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73. Taking part of this over to another thread....We MUST get on
the phones Monday morning.....Is there anything more important than this?
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:40 PM
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74. !
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :patriot: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:43 PM
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75. K&R! Let's all keep calling our Congress critters,
and encourage others to do so!
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:45 PM
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76. Everyone call their Congressmen - we must get 3
I think we can get 3 more

meanwhile Chertoff plans his next terrorist attack scare
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 12:53 AM
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78. I don't think they have any other choice
they have to excercise their power to the fullest
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:01 AM
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79. Finally, an American Hero steps foreward to repairing
our Constitution!!!!!!! Thank you Congressman Conyers!!!!!!! However, please impeach both ASAP, America needs lots of help from those traitors who appear to be attempting to create a dictatorship. Bush was never elected in the first place.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:18 AM
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80. k&r

Blacked Out by the Corporate Media, Impeachment Advances
by Dave Lindorff
The corporate media are disgracing themselves even further, if that is possible, on the impeachment story.
On Thursday, three more members of Congress signed on to Rep. Dennis Kucinich’s bill to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney (H Res 333), bringing the total number of co-sponsors of the bill to 10. That in itself would be national news, but there is more to it than simple numbers. The new sponsors include two freshman, Minnesota Rep. Keith Ellison, who ran for office calling for impeachment, and Hank Johnson, who took over the seat of pro-impeachment Rep. Cynthia McKinney (McKinney filed her own bill of impeachment against President Bush in the waning days of the last Congress), but the group also includes Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA).

http://baltimorechronicle.com/2007/070207Lindorff.shtml

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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:23 AM
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81. K&R n/t
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:51 AM
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84. k+r
I'm proud that my Congress member is already on board.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 02:37 AM
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86. About. Fucking. Time.
I know we don't have the votes in the Senate... yet... although a few weeks on the high crimes and misdemeanors of the Bush Administration in the media might just build enough constituent force to flip some Republicans cowards who are afraid of losing their seats...

But I don't see the blowback even if we can't take this to endgame. Impeachment against Clinton was unpopular because he was popular and it was about a fucking BLOWJOB.

This time it's about not one but DOZENS of real crimes and the case can easily be made for impeachment. The public is with them on this and at the very least a) we look like we tried to stop them and their war and b) we stop them from pushing anymore of their shit onto Congress expecting us to pass it and getting the media to pull their hackery on us if we don't.

Rp
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 03:21 AM
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87. Best news ever! K&R.
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 04:33 AM
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89. Well done. Thank you.




K&R



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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 05:21 AM
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90. kick and recommended
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 06:54 AM
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91. IMPEACH!!!!
K&R!

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nradisic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 06:59 AM
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92. Yeessss!
Go Chairman Conyers!!!!

Grab your popcorn and a drink!
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 07:44 AM
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95. A question
Do we want to remove the best campaign ad material for electing Democrats in 08? I'm torn between leaving Bush as the face of Republican failure and crimes, and paralyzing the most corrupt gangster since Caligula.
If Congress and our top military leaders don't step up to stop any further attempts to drag the country deeper into the rat hole, then by all means, impeach.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 08:02 AM
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96. dang it--this is just a tease! (and Conyers will not take calls)
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 08:54 AM
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98. Kick to keep Democracy alive !!! nt
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 09:10 AM
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99. Kicked
Hoping and Praying this national nightmare might come to an end.


The cry has been that when war is declared, all opposition should be hushed. A sentiment more unworthy of a free country could hardly be propagated.
~~William Ellery Channing





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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 09:43 AM
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101. Call Dave Loebsack in Iowa City. Jim Leach as a Republican supported investigating Bush!
Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 10:28 AM by calipendence
Loebsack just replaced James Leach, who was a long time Republican representative of Iowa's 2nd district, which is largely the University of Iowa campus and pretty progressive.

Leach himself was the only Republican who cosigned bill HR 375, which sought to investigate Bush and the Downing Street memos.

SURELY, if Leach found the need to cosign this bill for his constituents, Loebsack must feel his constituents also are asking him to support impeachment!

Make sure and let him know this! He should at least do the equivalent of what Leach did in going after Bushco!

http://www.loebsackforcongress.org/

My friends and Conyers last week!



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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:16 AM
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103. I'll feel better about this when I hear it directly from Conyers.
Hopefully, he'll make some kind of announcement on Monday. Here's another thread on the subject.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:39 AM
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104. I agree, I want to hear it from Conyers.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 12:13 PM
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107. 154! K&R - Call Your Congresspersons Monday!

Wake up America!:kick:

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 12:28 PM
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108. Fax and visit 'em too. Mine is getting Bill Moyers Journal on DVD Monday!
NGU.


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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:26 PM
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111. Excellent idea! Whatever it takes.

Wake up America!:kick:

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:56 PM
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115. She was thrilled when I handed Symbolman's DVDs of Conyers'...
...Downing Street Minutes hearings to her two years ago. She's a natural to support IMPEACHMENT. So I'm working on her.

NGU.


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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 02:25 PM
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118. Hi ClassWarrior. I have not seen Symbolman here at D.U.
for a while do you or anybody know how he is doing? Last post I read from him he was taking caring of medical issues. I hope all is alright.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 02:42 PM
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119. He pops in every now and then. He was here a couple of weekends ago...
...bragging that he got the second last iPhone on his island. B-)

He sounds like he's okay for the most part. Thanks for asking, midnight. :hi:

NGU.


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Summer93 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 12:45 PM
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110. Kicked and recommended
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:47 PM
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112. Lookup page for your congress representative
Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 01:48 PM by zulchzulu
http://www.house.gov/writerep/

I contacted Tammy Baldwin (WI). She should do it!


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broadcaster Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:53 PM
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113. Another meeting attendee said Conyers did not say this...
but that he said instead that if ***everyone in the room*** could get three Congressional sponsors, Impeachment could move forward.

Do we have a tape of his comments?

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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:53 PM
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114. Unify & target the three most likely to come to the table!!!

Which three?

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 02:03 PM
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116. Woo Hoo !!! - K & R !!!
:kick::woohoo::kick:
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 02:18 PM
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117. kick
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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 05:05 PM
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120. Thanks for explaining that, BUT...
I don't understand why there aren't A HUNDRED Democrats ready to sign on -- forget three!
It's really astonishing.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:56 AM
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121. I've always respected Conyers, but this quote makes me very angry.
Why is he being so obtuse about something so critical to our survival as a nation? Just to hide behind his own words while we gleefuly jump on the empty bones he tosses our way?

We don't have a clue WTF he was referring to. 3 more House reps to back Kucinich's bill to impeach Cheney? 3 more House reps to back his prior H.R. 333 to begin impeachment investigations? 3 more Senators to convict, according to his own private calculations? 3 Congressional leaders by the names of Reid, Pelosi and Hoyer? Who the fuck knows? Only John Conyers.

I'll pay attention to Conyers again if and only if and only when he introduces a bill of impeachment on the floor of the house.
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:22 AM
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122. Kick... Did 'your' Representative already sign the older HR.635, in 2005 or 2006?
If so, then why haven't they signed the new HR. 333?
Please call them and ask them to sign on.

H.RES.635
Title: Creating a select committee to investigate the Administration's intent to go to war before congressional authorization, manipulation of pre-war intelligence, encouraging and countenancing torture, retaliating against critics, and to make recommendations regarding grounds for possible impeachment.
Sponsor: Rep Conyers, John, Jr. (introduced 12/18/2005)

HR 635 had 38 co-sponsors:

Rep Abercrombie, Neil - 1/31/2006
Rep Baldwin, Tammy - 1/31/2006
Rep Capps, Lois - 12/22/2005
Rep Capuano, Michael E. - 3/9/2006
Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy - 1/31/2006
Rep Davis, Danny K. - 3/30/2006
Rep Farr, Sam - 2/7/2006
Rep Fattah, Chaka - 4/27/2006
Rep Filner, Bob - 3/30/2006
Rep Hinchey, Maurice D. - 2/7/2006
Rep Honda, Michael M. - 2/8/2006
Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. - 4/27/2006
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila - 12/22/2005
Rep Lee, Barbara - 2/1/2006
Rep Lewis, John - 2/7/2006
Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. - 2/7/2006
Rep McCollum, Betty - 3/14/2006
Rep McDermott, Jim - 1/31/2006
Rep McKinney, Cynthia A. - 2/7/2006
Rep Moore, Gwen - 2/14/2006
Rep Nadler, Jerrold - 1/31/2006
Rep Oberstar, James L. - 2/1/2006
Rep Olver, John W. - 2/16/2006
Rep Owens, Major R. - 1/31/2006
Rep Payne, Donald M. - 12/22/2005
Rep Rangel, Charles B. - 12/22/2005
Rep Rothman, Steven R. - 9/6/2006
Rep Sabo, Martin Olav - 3/2/2006
Rep Sanders, Bernard - 3/9/2006
Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. - 1/31/2006
Rep Solis, Hilda L. - 5/3/2006
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete - 1/31/2006
Rep Tierney, John F. - 2/16/2006
Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. - 2/14/2006
Rep Waters, Maxine - 12/22/2005
Rep Watson, Diane E. - 11/14/2006
Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. - 12/22/2005
Rep Wu, David - 3/14/2006

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HE00635:@@@P
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