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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:10 AM
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What would have to happen for the righties to consider the US effort in Iraq a lost cause?
What would have to happen for the righties to consider the US effort in Iraq a lost cause?
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:12 AM
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1. As soon as there is no more money to be made.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:31 PM
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20. Agreed -remove the profit
and that excursion will end so fast it will make your head spin.
Until then, we'll be there, and we will have burn pits as our hard earned money goes up in smoke.
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:12 AM
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2. Rush Limbaugh has to say it. n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:15 AM
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6. We have a winner!
Remember that we still have people who think Vietnam could have been won. Those are the people running this war, thinking that a redesigned military can be made light and quick enough to win against an indigenous guerrilla force, Rumsfeld's model.

That's what this is all about, you know, a laboratory for winning Vietnam.

Lamebawl will convince the cud chewing masses. Nothing will convince the experts.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:12 AM
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3. A Democrat in 2008
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:15 AM
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5. I came here to say "A Democrat in 2008."
As soon as a Dem is in charge, they'll say Iraq is lost and it's the Dem's fault.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:44 AM
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16. I'm going to have a very difficult time restraining myself the first time I hear that one.
I hate pre-ordained frustration.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:44 PM
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21. That's exactly what I thought!
:toast:
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:15 AM
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4. The insurgents would have to attack and conquer America.........
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 10:16 AM by Double T
before 'the righties' might realize Iraq was a lost cause.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:22 AM
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7. If their kids were ordered to go and fight, it would end in a week
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:41 AM
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9. The draft. n/t
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:44 AM
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15. fucking eh ! nt
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:27 PM
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18. That would involve some poor soul having sex with them *shudder*
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:32 AM
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8. I think it's a psychological issue
What if they admitted to themselves and others that Iraq was a lost cause, after all? They would also have to assume that their president is full of, well, poop. That would leave them with very little left to identify with and feel proud of. Who wants to be a loser? Just my humble opinion, of course.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:57 AM
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10. 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam and they still didn't want to end it
They'll never want to give it up in Iraq.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:02 AM
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11. the neocon would never admit to a fault however glaring,
their ideology forbids it. It would mean that the ubermensch academics' politics would go down the crapper never to be seen again.

There is another reason, none of these chickenhawks are ever going to war in uniform, fighting is something other people's kids do.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:26 AM
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12. I love your sig! {EOM}
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:42 AM
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13. Somebody better figure it out soon.
Otherwise in another generation we'll have a rancid new crop of neo-cons ready to try Iraq again somewhere else, on the theory that Iraq was just a "failure of willpower."
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:43 AM
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14. If they couldn't make any more money nt
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:13 PM
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17. Military defeat.

Unless our military were substantially wiped out in Iraq, they will see anything else as just giving up. And even a military defeat won't do much good as we could always send back more. Or at the very least nuke the hell out of Iraq.

Hell, these people worship Gen MacArthur despite his debacles in Bataan, New Guinea and North Korea. They are conservative after all. Once they decide something they will stick to it in the face of all reality.

Electing a Democratic president might do it. They start shouting, "there is no way we can win now with a Democrat at the helm". They can then support getting out of Iraq while blaming the failure on us.


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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:29 PM
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19. Just cut off their right-wing propaganda (Fox News, etc.).
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:46 PM
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22. The requirement that they all serve at least a two-yr. tour-of-duty there?
:shrug:

It might do the trick.

TC

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