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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:41 PM
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Frank Luntz: This was a very good debate for Obama
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 08:42 PM by bigdarryl
he did his focus group from SC with 25 democrats that mostly said they though Obama connected with them out of all the candidates. Sound like Obama has been practicing the debates.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:41 PM
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1. Great! Gobama!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:42 PM
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2. What Luntz is saying is he would like Obama as the Dem opponent -- !!!
Kucinich won with a Hillary/Edwards tie -- and I thought Edwards did better than Hillary --
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:44 PM
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3. The focus group chose Obama, not Luntz.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:46 PM
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ah, but luntz chose the focus group :)
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:46 PM
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5. And Luntz chose the focus group. NT
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:46 PM
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4. Your theory is lame.
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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:49 PM
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7. Actually, Luntz polled previous debates and both times Hillary won
Today, he said Obama outperformed Hillary. CNN had the same result as well.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:57 PM
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12. No, he said Edwards won the NH debate. What happened? His numbers tanked in NH
CNN did not have the same result. CNN had two focus groups. One said Obama won, the other said HRC and Richardson tied for first.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:45 PM
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14. lol...
what were you watching? :7
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:48 PM
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6. Frank is a Republican ass wipe.
We learned after the previous elections that his so called "undecided" focus group members were all hand picked by him and were partisans. He is a lying shit head and I hate it that he still gets work from the msm.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:52 PM
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8. Frank Luntz is not a good source of info
he does his work on behalf of his clients, which are not you and I.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:53 PM
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10. He had Hill winning last time, so...
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:53 PM
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9. he also was chosen in new hampshire. Only the media keeps picking clinton
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:54 PM
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11. Luntz is a putz but Obama did do very well.
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 08:55 PM by AtomicKitten
So did the others. I think it's impossible to state unequivocally who won.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:07 PM
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13. Maybe they liked his jab at Hillary re. the time to question the Pentagon was five years ago
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 11:07 PM by BeyondGeography
One can always hope the truth will eventually sink in about who was wrong about this fiasco and who was right all along.
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Like It Is Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 01:38 AM
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15. Who was the Smartest, according to CNN?
2. Who seemed to know most about the issues?
Biden: When he talked about military matters and foreign affairs, you could hear his deep knowledge and experience Biden: Seemed like the straighter talker, especially on the situation in Iraq and what it means to leave in an effective manner Biden: Strong on urging all candidates to tell the truth Joe Biden
Joe Biden (40%)
Detailed results
Question 2:
Who seemed to know most about the issues?


1. Joe Biden 40% 1310 votes
2. Hillary Clinton 22% 727 votes
3. Barack Obama 17% 572 votes
4. John Edwards 7% 242 votes
5. Dennis Kucinich 4% 134 votes
6. Mike Gravel 3% 110 votes
7. Bill Richardson 3% 109 votes
8. Chris Dodd 2% 66 votes

Total: 3270 votes
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 01:47 AM
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16. I trust Frank Luntz as far as I can throw him.
If Frank Luntz said the sky was blue, I'd double check. Why would anyone look to a Republican pundit, for accurate analysis on the Democratic debate? That doesn't make any sense at all.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:07 AM
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17. He's getting better but he has A LOT more room for improvement
he needs to relax and loosen up. Don't get uptight Obama with some of those questions, learn to have fun with these debates. The people like Obama because he is a genuine person and feel comfortable with him as a leader. We don't need him getting preachy or defensive. Towards the end he was certainly warming up and getting into a groove.

I wish he would fire that slimey Edwards campaign manager he has and get some topnotch handlers.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 08:14 AM
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18. Does anyone remember Luntz when he was on Real Time with Bill Maher?
Edited on Tue Jul-24-07 08:20 AM by TheBaldyMan
I don't trust the guy. He takes far too much money from RW think tanks to be trusted. He is one of the main architects of spin culture, presentation over substance is his credo.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=385&topic_id=36602"> DU Political video - Luntz on Real Time part I

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=385&topic_id=36610"> DU Political video - Luntz on Real Time part II

You can watch the item via the links above.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 08:33 AM
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19. He won over the focus group in NH, too! nt
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