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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:41 PM
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CNN and FOX both did focus groups on the debate: Obama won both!
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 08:52 PM by rhombus
And now, the CNN pundits claim Hillary won. I pick the PEOPLE over the pundits any time, any where!


Edited. old poll
South Carolina Poll: Obama wins
http://www.wyff4.com/politics/13208381/detail.html


If anyone has the new SUSA poll on this debate, please post link in the comments.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:42 PM
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1. How many people were in the focus groups?
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:43 PM
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3. 24
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:43 PM
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4. 200 million
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:44 PM
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7. Let me guess a Obama supporter?
Thats the kind of answer I would expect from either one.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 10:47 AM
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30. Let me guess, an anti-Obama supporter?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 10:54 AM
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31. I didn't say 200 million.
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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:44 PM
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8. FOX had close to 30, CNN about the same
And the South Carolina poll confirmed the focus groups poll. I'm tired of the way the pundits manipulate the news.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:43 PM
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2. I saw that............WOW!
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:43 PM
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5. I think you have an old link
to a previous debate. nm
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:44 PM
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6. Gobama!!!!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:45 PM
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9. What is a "Fox"?
I've never heard of such a thing?
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:46 PM
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10. It was his best debate. But I didn't like the debate at all.
I didn't think the format lived up the hype.

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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:53 PM
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23. better then what i expected
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:47 PM
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11. wasn't there a New Hampshire focus group watching, too?
...said Clinton won.
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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:51 PM
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13. the NH focus group came in for Hillary, left for Obama
They group said Obama outperfomed Hillary.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:48 PM
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12. New hampshire thinks the same. Obama. but, the news must promote and spin for Hillary
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:52 PM
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14. and BOTH were wrong!
:rofl:
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eweaver155 Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:47 PM
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18. They both were right. He gave good answers. It was a positive night
for him.

:bounce:
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:52 PM
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15. Faux? Aren't they a little late to the game?
MKJ
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:57 PM
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16. You believe anything that comes from Fox?
good grief. I can't believe there are Limbeciles on this board.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:44 PM
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17. Live Audiences in Mancheseter, NH picked Obama
Just based on the real-time graph:

  1. Obama. Highest response ratings, most consistently high.

  2. Edwards. 2nd highest. Also consistently over 70% threshold.

  3. Clinton. Solid positive response, but not consistent. Nor were the peaks as high.



The graph was available as an overlay for those watching the streaming video of the debate.
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redherring Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:50 PM
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19. Eh, no. He didn't win
He stutters a bit too much.
Hillary Clinton won for all I know.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:30 PM
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20. WOOOW BOY! NOT! - ugh!
I like him less and less everytime he opens his mouth...
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:38 PM
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21. Obama clearly won this round.
Very impressive.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:46 PM
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22. I saw part of it, and I thought he looked much more confident--
he did very well--proud of him!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 06:29 AM
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24. Why is the media so intent on cramming Hillary down our throats?
She could have slept through the entire thing and they would say she won. All I can imagine is that the right wing smear machine is salivating over the prospect of a Clinton campaign and is passing the word along to their mouthpieces.
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 07:07 AM
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25. Yes, he did win.
CNN and MSNBC is quickly becoming like FAUX news trying to pick a candidate. Even though CNN focus group stated he won the political analyst are the saying the same thing.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 07:32 AM
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26. Oh...
.... well the Republican power brokers must have decided it will be easier to beat Obama than Clinton at this point.
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eweaver155 Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 07:32 AM
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27. Yes, he did win the debate. I am glad they had the focus groups on the air
because they would have tried to slant.


Who won the debate?

31% Obama
24% Clinton
14% Edwards
13% Not Sure
6% Biden
4% Richardson
3% Kucinich
2% Dodd
2% Gravel


Who lost the debate?

20% Not Sure
17% Gravel
12% Clinton
10% Kucinich
9% Dodd
9% Obama
9% Richardson
8% Biden
5% Edwards
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 07:58 AM
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28. I thought Obama was the best last night
Hillary second and Kucinich third. Richardson has improved his debate performance quite a lot and Biden was on his usual game. Dodd was good at times, but he meanders as if he's on the Senate floor instead of a stage. Edwards had a strong moment on the health care issue when something genuine showed through an overall medium performance. Gravel had flashes of brilliance, but a bad night for him.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:44 AM
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29. Great. Let's see what the polls say in a few days
My guess is that people will like Obama, but Clinton's lead will grow. Ask John Jerry about 'winning' a debate.
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