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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:10 PM
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What is a 'modern' progressive?
HRC said today she is a 'modern' progressive. What is the difference between a modern and traditional progressive?
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:14 PM
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1. Well for starters ...
The original Progressive Party was Teddy Roosevelt Republicans. ;)

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:29 PM
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2. Would somebody, anybody, define "progressive" for me?
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:34 PM
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4. Wikipedia will
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:39 PM
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5. Progressive is one of those words that leaves open for
you to define. That is there is no committment.
According to Hilafy. Small Government.
I thought this is GOP line.

As I said it leaves things open ended--no one
defines it the same way.

To be fair there are people who call themselves
progressive and they are really on the left.


Associating it with small government is more to right.

Liberal and Proud to be called Liberal.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:31 PM
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3. I found this answer the most disappointing given by Hilary
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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:04 PM
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6. I was surprised by it but, after thinking about it I get it. You can't give the MSM anything
that will destroy you. Imagine if she said "liberal?" It would be on every anti-Hillary spot to come and Bill O'Reilly wouldn't stop using the debate recording of it on his slimey show. This way it'll take the Bill O'Reilly's and the Rush Limbaugh's until February to just figure out what a Modern Progressive is.

I thought it smart. You have to move quickly through the MSM attack machine.
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Don1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:10 PM
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7. It means she is like a progressive but more modern.
In other words, she is hard to define but somehow vaguely better. Alright, honestly, I give up, but I have to admit that her answer was flexible enough to work for most viewers.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:26 PM
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8. What a great political move. She defined a new term and now the M$M will have to
spend the rest of the summer trying to explain a modern progressive and hours and hours of free air for Hillary.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:31 PM
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9. It's the Hillarista version of being a "compassionate conservative."
and as we know by now, Bush is neither "compassionate," unless we define "compassionate" as torturing people until just before organ failure ensues, or "conservative," if by conservative we mean running the largest deficits in our history and violating the Constitution in ways not seen since the Civil War.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:41 PM
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11. See you fell right into the trap, your trying to define the term, but if you were the press
you would have ask Hillary if that was her definition, else it would only be allowed in an op-ed piece.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 12:04 AM
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16. Hillary is a neoliberal globalist
and as Commander-in-Chief she will use the US military to bring Latin America back under American jackboots.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:38 PM
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10. Hillary is not progressive at all. she is right of center
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Don1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:42 PM
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12. true, but
since the democrats have moved slightly right since the 70's, this makes her a modern progressive?
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:50 PM
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13. I think she probably meant moderate Progressive...
since "modern" Progressive doesn't make much sense.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:55 PM
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15. Oh no, that was pure politics, the best I've seen since Rush made liberal a 4 letter word. n/t
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:54 PM
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14. Corporate tool
in sheep's clothing???
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